Scandal Dustin Martin in drunken scuffle

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This is true.
If witnesses confirm the victims story, Martins deserves all of this.
Until then, we should wait until the investigation has been completed.
Acting now is naive.
Agreed.
The way the AFL and the Tigers handled the investigation prior to handing it over to the Police was just putrid though.
 

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That's right, and that was pathetic. But those were different times.
In these modern times, Richmond, who love spruiking about how they re the only Club with a female president, still 'leaned' on the victim and tried to water down her story. Even tried to falsify her statement.
different times, well I bet that makes the females involved feel better:rolleyes:
 

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That's right, and that was pathetic. But those were different times.
In these modern times, Richmond, who love spruiking about how they re the only Club with a female president, still 'leaned' on the victim and tried to water down her story. Even tried to falsify her statement.
How do you know Richmond tried to lean on her? And tell me about Dusty's lifestyle choices. I'm waiting.
 
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dustin is in deep shit. He will receive a very serious assault charge, and will will probably be found guilty.

It will boil down to whether a reasonable person would beleive that Martin actually intended to harm her, not the victim herself. Considering how aggresive and drunk he was Many wittnesses would have beleived he intended to do it.

The worst he'll get from this is a good behaviour bond. In the legal side of things anyway.
 

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Agreed.
The way the AFL and the Tigers handled the investigation prior to handing it over to the Police was just putrid though.
Don't know enough about it to make comments on Richmonds involvement.
However it's good that the investigation is in the hands of the police. Provides the best chance of the truth coming out.
 

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Things go up a notch or two when someone holds an object above your face and threatens to stab you with it, don't you think ?
you mean an object like a fist which is then used to go beyond a theat?

They are both as bad as one another, violence is violence, yet the Carlton supporters on here want Martin strung up but are happy with Smith being punished by some extra training drills, the stench of hypocrisy is heavy in this thread.
 

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Non Rita journalist corroborates her story of the AFL trying to derail the investigation. Pathetic.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wo...e/news-story/ea3a418d536b7b4282a482b7ecb0a0fe

The 30-year-old claims that the league “leaned’’ on her to water down evidence that Martin threatened “I’ll f***ing stab you’’ in Chapel St’s Mr Miyagi restaurant on Saturday night.

One AFL officer then gloated to her “we’ve washed our hands of this’’ once the investigation was handed over to the police yesterday, the shaken victim — a Channel Seven staffer — has confided to friends.

“It has been incredibly stressful,’’ she has told a friend.

“The investigation has been seriously flawed. The AFL needs to overhaul their process so the focus is on a victim’s welfare and not the branding of the league.’’
One friend said the woman was particularly devastated that the league had “actively sought to discredit her story’’ after police took charge last night, telling journalists that other diners had downplayed the incident.
In her final interview with the AFL — a four-hour session — she said officers repeatedly questioned whether she wanted to proceed with her claim that Martin threatened to stab her with a chopstick, warning then they would have to refer it to police and it could end his career.
 

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This is the Internet. Did you just want everyone to acknowledge something happened and then once that's done report in every day and say 'nothing to say'?
It's a police investigation. Can you point me to all of your hysterical posts about what should happen to the Hawthorn players who are being investigated?
 
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Enough with the excuses.
Enough with playing this down.
Its time to get real. Who the hell does this tool think he is ?
Martin has been given special treatment by the Club from Day 1. As we saw with Fev, giving a guy special treatment just because he's a good player, in the long term, creates a monster and is massively detrimental to the playing culture of the Club. I mean, a grown man still having to be 'babysat by Club Leaders, even after 7 years in the AFL system... Come on, that's just pathetic.
Education wont do the trick. He's had plenty of that. All AFL players get hour after hour of it pumped into them. You telling me that he doesn't understand that drunkenly abusing, intimidating and threatening a woman is wrong ? Come off it!
Fines, suspensions, and treading sensitively around his 'lifestyle' haven't, and wont work.
Enough is enough.
The only way he ll learn, and the Tigers can move on, is to take a stance and cut him loose.
You cant allow one player to consistently hold the Club to ransom with his idiocy. Not only that, but after all the stuff the AFL has been, and is trying to do in terms of appreciating and respecting women, this incident has made them look like total fools.
If what the victim of this incident is saying is true, and there's no reason to believe she's lying, then Martin is is deep deep strife, and shouldn't be afforded any special treatment just because he's an AFL star.
Martin's been cuddling, and people have generally accommodated his 'choice of lifestyle' for 7 years.
Whether or not Footy is the only thing keeping this guy away from a life of crime and jail should be irrelevant.
He obviously enjoys that life, or enjoys the idea of it, so if that's the case, let him have it.
Let him understand that for once in his adult life, he has to be held fully accountable for his actions. He has to be treated as Dustin Martin the person who hs done wrong in the eyes of the law, not Dustin Martin the protected AFL star.
Jail time, or criminal convictions and community service, are the only way dodgy flogs like Dustin Martin can learn their lesson and begin the long journey to rehabilitation.
If the AFL are as serious as they say they are about respecting women, then whether or not he'll be allowed to play again should be the least of Martin's worries.
Education is a journey, not a destination. This is his worst public misdemeanour and surely he'll learn from it. He's learnt a lot from his 'private tutoring'.
 

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Non Rita journalist corroborates her story of the AFL trying to derail the investigation. Pathetic.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wo...e/news-story/ea3a418d536b7b4282a482b7ecb0a0fe
This is why a police investigation is the best result.

The victim has the opportunity to make a statement she is happy with. Witnesses also can make statements. Once all facts are determined, they can determine what actually happened.

What you have quoted is dissatisfaction of the AFL from the victim. They aren't in the process anymore which is for the best.

The only thing holding this up is a difference in what exactly occurred between the victim and witnesses at the restaurant. If all are aligned this is a pretty clear cut case for Martin to be charged. Would imagine this would be announced tomorrow morning if that's the case.
 
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This is why a police investigation is the best result.

The victim has the opportunity to make a statement she is happy with. Witnesses also can make statements. Once all facts are determined, they can determine what actually happened.

What you have quoted is dissatisfaction of the AFL from the victim. They aren't in the process anymore which is for the best.

The only thing holding this up is a difference in what exactly occurred between the victim and witnesses at the restaurant. If all are aligned this is a pretty clear cut case for Martin to be charged. Would imagine this would be announced tomorrow morning if that's the case.
Think you might be overestimating the efficiency of Victoria Police just a tad there.
 

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Cool catch cry you've got there...

"Blow your load"... it's been used a bit in this thread by tigs supporters and its worn thin.

I said punish by nab cup only... that is if your club thinks its not appropriate to be that pissed he can't remember what happened, stand over a female stranger in an intimidating way and get asked to leave a licenced premise???

Other facts are being investigated... but those are established... is that what Richmond wants their players to do? Is it part of his off season training schedule... and what Richmond wants to sell to its sponsors and members???

According to you it is!

Cool...

Go Richmond :thumbsu:
For the third time.

Lets establish the facts and then work out what punishment if any is necessary.

Leave your grandstanding nonsense for the bay
 

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