Opinion Dustin Martin is better than Dangerfield

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Disregarding the comparison for a sec, most of Dusty's goals this year have been amazing, its easy to count stats about the number of goals he kicked but if you look closer at how Dusty kicked his goals and from where then...........his grand Final goals were not as much of a surprise, they were a reminded of his prodigious talent.
 

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Disregarding the comparison for a sec, most of Dusty's goals this year have been amazing, its easy to count stats about the number of goals he kicked but if you look closer at how Dusty kicked his goals and from where then...........his grand Final goals were not as much of a surprise, they were a reminded of his prodigious talent.
I still get a bit of movement when I think about his banana kick against West Coast.

Beyond elite.
 

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I still get a bit of movement when I think about his banana kick against West Coast.

Beyond elite.
yeah, crazy goal that, its goals like that that don't show up on the stats sheets, along with the in traffic game braking disposals he does.
Matthews said it best, he has the power of a bricklayer with the finesse to match. We are lucky he stayed a Tiger.
 
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i think Danger may be out of the conversation top 10 and Dusty has moved to number 2 with his eye on Matthews.
Matthews
Martin
Carey
Blight
Ablett Snr
Hird
Cousins
Voss
Judd
Ablett Jnr
 

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i think Danger may be out of the conversation top 10 and Dusty has moved to number 2 with his eye on Matthews.
Matthews
Martin
Carey
Blight
Ablett Snr
Hird
Cousins
Voss
Judd
Ablett Jnr
Let’s revisit this when Dusty is finished. There’s one thing missing from his CV that Carey, Matthews, GAS & GAJ had and that was excellence in longevity. As brilliant as they were, Cousins and Blight didn’t have that.
 

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Let’s revisit this when Dusty is finished. There’s one thing missing from his CV that Carey, Matthews, GAS & GAJ had and that was excellence in longevity. As brilliant as they were, Cousins and Blight didn’t have that.
Actually agree. I'm assuming longevity for Dusty with hopefully 2-3 more years. I can't leave Cousins and Blight out regardless of time. I just am in awe of both of them and always will be.
 

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i think Danger may be out of the conversation top 10 and Dusty has moved to number 2 with his eye on Matthews.
Matthews
Martin
Carey
Blight
Ablett Snr
Hird
Cousins
Voss
Judd
Ablett Jnr
fair list that
premature on Dusty but projecting that way. He keeps this up until he's 29/30 he goes top 2 for me.

Never saw Lethal play, so take ppl's word for it. Same as Blight.
 

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fair list that
premature on Dusty but projecting that way. He keeps this up until he's 29/30 he goes top 2 for me.

Never saw Lethal play, so take ppl's word for it. Same as Blight.
you could say Lethal had more space, but he was that good that he would have done it this era anyway.
Blight was just a freak.
 

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i think Danger may be out of the conversation top 10 and Dusty has moved to number 2 with his eye on Matthews.
Matthews
Martin
Carey
Blight
Ablett Snr
Hird
Cousins
Voss
Judd
Ablett Jnr
For you to put both Ablett so low on this list is laughable. A football family who were so dominate and massive game changes during their careers not just for a few years but most of their career. Snr grand final specialist especially in that hawks vs cats final. Jnr 5 MVP 8 all Australia 2 brownlow one in a dominate year one in a losing club which isn’t easy to get points as they usually go to the winning team.
Both tagged each week and still dominated the game.

Dusty has 3 premierships that you only get as a team and 3 norm smiths if you get to play in a final. Yes he has all awards for 2017 but needs to do a lot more to make top 2 and be given the overused term GOAT

lethal/GAS the GOAT of their time
GAJ modern era GOAT
 

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For you to put both Ablett so low on this list is laughable. A football family who were so dominate and massive game changes during their careers not just for a few years but most of their career. Snr grand final specialist especially in that hawks vs cats final. Jnr 5 MVP 8 all Australia 2 brownlow one in a dominate year one in a losing club which isn’t easy to get points as they usually go to the winning team.
Both tagged each week and still dominated the game.

Dusty has 3 premierships that you only get as a team and 3 norm smiths if you get to play in a final. Yes he has all awards for 2017 but needs to do a lot more to make top 2 and be given the overused term GOAT

lethal/GAS the GOAT of their time
GAJ modern era GOAT
Couldn't agree more.

Gary Ablett Snr and Jnr are both in the top 5 of all time.

Matthews and Carey also definitely in.

Number 5 a toss up between the greatest goalkicker of all time despite playing in a lowly team for most of his career (Lockett) and a controversial selection of an amazing 98 game career (Coleman).
 

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Couldn't agree more.

Gary Ablett Snr and Jnr are both in the top 5 of all time.

Matthews and Carey also definitely in.

Number 5 a toss up between the greatest goalkicker of all time despite playing in a lowly team for most of his career (Lockett) and a controversial selection of an amazing 98 game career (Coleman).
One name forgotten by many when talking about GOAT is the great Polly Farmer. While he only played about 100 games in Victoria his contribution to football in WA & VIC was nothing short of profound; he changed the way ruckmen played the game largely through the use of hand-balling. I don't profess to be an expert on the subject, but I don't know of any player whose contribution was as great
 

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Martin is twice the player Danger is. Not even worth debating
Nobody is debating this. The OP goes back to 2016 when it was worth debating. But that's not enough for some Richmond posters who want everyone to acknowledge Dusty is simply the greatest ever. He may end up with that reputation, but its too early to say
 

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One name forgotten by many when talking about GOAT is the great Polly Farmer. While he only played about 100 games in Victoria his contribution to football in WA & VIC was nothing short of profound; he changed the way ruckmen played the game largely through the use of hand-balling. I don't profess to be an expert on the subject, but I don't know of any player whose contribution was as great
Yep, in the Top 10.

I did some research after my post, and a couple of other names that feature regularly on Top 5 Ever lists are Ted Whitten and Dick Reynolds.
 

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For you to put both Ablett so low on this list is laughable. A football family who were so dominate and massive game changes during their careers not just for a few years but most of their career. Snr grand final specialist especially in that hawks vs cats final. Jnr 5 MVP 8 all Australia 2 brownlow one in a dominate year one in a losing club which isn’t easy to get points as they usually go to the winning team.
Both tagged each week and still dominated the game.

Dusty has 3 premierships that you only get as a team and 3 norm smiths if you get to play in a final. Yes he has all awards for 2017 but needs to do a lot more to make top 2 and be given the overused term GOAT

lethal/GAS the GOAT of their time
GAJ modern era GOAT
its just a list and it's going to be different for different people depending on what they like in a footballer. Maybe Jnr's time at GC has had a negative effect on me. I hope I'm not wrong in saying that he went for $ and did get a reputation of handball receives out the back. Not saying he wasn't brilliant over his whole career though. 5x 8x 2x doesn't really affect how I look at the best. For instance I would have liked to have squeezed Modra in because he was one of the players I enjoyed watching the most.
Yeah Dusty's up there now for mine. The best finals player. Has been the most important part of the dynasty. FWIW I gave then unheralded J Short BOG for the 2020 granny.
Anyway this is the Paddy v Dusty thread so didn't mean to hijack with a best of all time list. Obviously Dusty has surpassed Danger.
 

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its just a list and it's going to be different for different people depending on what they like in a footballer. Maybe Jnr's time at GC has had a negative effect on me. I hope I'm not wrong in saying that he went for $ and did get a reputation of handball receives out the back. Not saying he wasn't brilliant over his whole career though. 5x 8x 2x doesn't really affect how I look at the best. For instance I would have liked to have squeezed Modra in because he was one of the players I enjoyed watching the most.
Yeah Dusty's up there now for mine. The best finals player. Has been the most important part of the dynasty. FWIW I gave then unheralded J Short BOG for the 2020 granny.
Anyway this is the Paddy v Dusty thread so didn't mean to hijack with a best of all time list. Obviously Dusty has surpassed Danger.
Dusty is best finals player although GAS 14 goals in a final is just insane by any player since the history of our games.

I hope Dusty continues with his final performance would be nice if he showed it also in his home and away games too as feel that area lacks

Dusty vs Danger will always be Dusty.

Even though paddy has been more consistent and gotten more individual awards over his career; he is very selfish which will be a lesson he will learn as when he retires he will be one of those players without the team winning goal
 
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Dusty is best finals player although GAS 14 goals in a final is just insane by any player since the history of our games.

I hope Dusty continues with his final performance would be nice if he showed it also in his home and away games too as feel that area lacks

Dusty vs Danger will always be Dusty.

Even though paddy has been more consistent and gotten more individual awards over his career; he is very selfish which will be a lesson he will learn as when he retires he will be one of those players without the team winning goal
GAS 89 is obviously the best. Dusty's efforts have brought home 3 cups though.
I'm not in agreeance about selfish Paddy. But having said that he maybe could have been a bit better at bringing other players into the game ala Dusty.
 

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