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I was onboard until you said this. Fyfe's kicking, especially for goals, is his achilles heel.and kick a direct set shot.
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I was onboard until you said this. Fyfe's kicking, especially for goals, is his achilles heel.and kick a direct set shot.
Dusty is better than Dangerfield because he is more of a team player. Danger can do brilliant things but he’s a bit of a show pony and seems to want to be the one to do it all. Dusty just loves the contest and brings his teammates into the play all the time.
That said, in my extremely biased opinion Fyfe is better than both of them. More Brownlow votes than games played... Dusty and Danger can’t claim that.
Dusty Martin is now an all time great, no doubt about it, but he is not above GAS & Tony Lockett, those two players would be in most Top 5 ( at least top 10 ) lists in the history of the game......To contribute to the actual thread, I still think Dangerfield has had more elite ‘seasons’ than Dusty, but winning 2 Norm Smiths and having the reputation as the best big time performer ( like Bartel & Hodge in the past ) probably now puts Dusty in front....They’re very close though.I've got Dusty, Ablett jnr and Carey as the best I have seen. Prob Ablett senior and Lockett not far behind.
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You know technically Tim Kelly: 18.50, after two years in the system Yojimbo !You hate to use Brownlow Votes as a measure for anything, but lets look at Brownlow Votes per year as a
measure.
Dustin Martin: 17.60
Patrick Dangerfield: 17.42
Nat Fyfe: 17.40
Joel Selwood: 15.23
Gary Ablett Jnr: 14.78
Marcus Bontempelli: 14.50
Scott Pendlebury: 13.86
Tom Mitchell: 13.17
Patrick Cripps: 12.50
Lance Franklin: 11.33
You hate to use Brownlow Votes as a measure for anything, but lets look at Brownlow Votes per year as a
measure.
Dustin Martin: 17.60
Patrick Dangerfield: 17.42
Nat Fyfe: 17.40
Joel Selwood: 15.23
Gary Ablett Jnr: 14.78
Marcus Bontempelli: 14.50
Scott Pendlebury: 13.86
Tom Mitchell: 13.17
Patrick Cripps: 12.50
Lance Franklin: 11.33
Dusty murdered Elliot Yeo in round 22? Was BOG by a mile and received three votes.At their best, these three guys are the best three players in the game right now.
For mine, the determining factor is how they go at their worst. i.e - When Elliot Yeo goes head to head with them in the midfield...
Hence: Fyfe #1, Danger #2 and Dusty #3.
You know technically Tim Kelly: 18.50, after two years in the system Yojimbo !
Forgot him that must mean he is better than all the others.
Its not totally outlandish, some will agree, others won't, unfortunately Fyfe was really cruelled by injury at a key time. Nevertheless you could make a case either way and they have different skill set advantages over the other.That said, in my extremely biased opinion Fyfe is better than both of them. More Brownlow votes than games played... Dusty and Danger can’t claim that.
Wayne Carey: 8.47 which was 127 Votes over 15 Years. I don't like the who was the best player ever argumentsON memory I don't think Carey ever polled well in the brownlow, although he is arguably the best player to have ever played
Even better when you compare the numbers of another 18 season veteran in Shaun Burgoyne: 4.61, bothAnd Ablett's is sustained over no less than 18 seasons.
Unbelievable.
Why? Is it Fyffe’s pinpoint precision kicking?I still feel both are better than Dangerfield though, and being younger still have more time to achieve more than he does in the remainder of their careers.
That’s cause he always gotta couple weeks holiday for belting blokesON memory I don't think Carey ever polled well in the brownlow, although he is arguably the best player to have ever played
Dusty murdered Elliot Yeo in round 22? Was BOG by a mile and received three votes.
Agree that Fyfe is the best of the three of them (best in the league, to be honest), but not because he’s got more Brownlow votes. It’s a pretty ordinary measure of a player’s worth.That said, in my extremely biased opinion Fyfe is better than both of them. More Brownlow votes than games played... Dusty and Danger can’t claim that.
Agree with this.I think the best players I have ever seen were obviously skilled, but more importantly, the best decision makers - especially under real pressure. Leigh Matthews, Carey, Ablett Snr and Jnr and Diesel Williams were off the chain. You could argue for hours about them, but they saw things others couldn’t and hit targets in stupidly dangerous places to the advantage of their team. It’s not about absolute possessions or DE, or even Brownlows, it’s about hitting a damaging target that just opens things up for your team.
Dusty kills Danger in this respect.
And as a footy lover I can’t wait to watch the Bont develop over the next 5 years. Is a top talent with an X factor that is brilliant to watch.