Play Nice Dusty Incident #chopstickgate [$5k suspended fine - Club Statement Page 229 of Thread]

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Isnt the only people that have suggested 12 months off are KB and John Ralph???
Hope so just going by the stuff in here, but if it happens then the AFL can go and get ******

FWIW I'd love to punch Jon Ralph in his fat head, Richmond supporter my arse he is.
 

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Like I've said, happy to withdraw it if everything is proven to be accurate. It was a comment made in the heat of the moment but I'm still not excusing myself. I'm not one to back away from a statement and I have to stand by it now.
My last comment on this is you'll need to be reasonable on your required burden of proof. Yesterday you were pushing the notion anything less than the cops confirming it happened is piss weak and she's a liar. Right now, it looks like hopefully Dusty wont be facing the cops. If so, the AFL and RFC accepting her version, and dusty not fighting and apologizing may be your only confirmations of her version being accepted.

Personally, when he apologized that was pretty much it for me. If there was more to it, his mates would have had his back and argued the counterpoint, and he would have defended himself. The silence of his mates for me is damning

On a personal note, I like Dusty. He's nothing like me, but I love the notion of a bloke who doesn't give a shit about being an Environmental Ambassador, or being on the Footy Show, and just wants to play footy and enjoy his life. I'm gutted this is happening, and take zero joy in it at all.
 

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Isnt the only people that have suggested 12 months off are KB and John Ralph???
In my books who have now proven to be grand standing self serving ......... ........ It's an outrage and any penalty should be aligned with how the law has ajudicated this at which point , there is NO charge

He should be penalized for being a silly sausage and neglecting his responsibilities for sure , but making a statement to society , No . That's not the role of the RFC.
 

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Imagine if Hodgey did some shit like this...nothing would be said. Just because Dustin is a known dickhead at times means he will cop more of a punishment than others would.
 

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My last comment on this is you'll need to be reasonable on your required burden of proof. Yesterday you were pushing the notion anything less than the cops confirming it happened is piss weak and she's a liar. Right now, it looks like hopefully Dusty wont be facing the cops. If so, the AFL and RFC accepting her version, and dusty not fighting and apologizing may be your only confirmations of her version being accepted.

Personally, when he apologized that was pretty much it for me. If there was more to it, his mates would have had his back and argued the counterpoint, and he would have defended himself. The silence of his mates for me is damning

On a personal note, I like Dusty. He's nothing like me, but I love the notion of a bloke who doesn't give a shit about being an Environmental Ambassador, or being on the Footy Show, and just wants to play footy and enjoy his life. I'm gutted this is happening, and take zero joy in it at all.
Dan Connors on twitter yesterday having a crack at the media and specifically the Herald sun for blowing up the story, so some of his mates have his back..

In saying that I don't think it actually helps much having Dan have your back...
 
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In my books who have now proven to be grand standing self serving ......... ........ It's an outrage and any penalty should be aligned with how the law has ajudicated this at which point , there is NO charge

He should be penalized for being a silly sausage and neglecting his responsibilities for sure , but making a statement to society , No . That's not the role of the RFC.
The use of silly sausage means you win...

Hope your a lawyer
 

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Dan Connors on twitter yesterday having a crack at the media and specifically the Herald sun for blowing up the story, so some of his mates have his back..

In saying that I don't think it actually helps much having Dan have your back...
I actually mean the mates he was with at the dinner

and agree Condog is the last bloke you want in your corner
 

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My last comment on this is you'll need to be reasonable on your required burden of proof. Yesterday you were pushing the notion anything less than the cops confirming it happened is piss weak and she's a liar. Right now, it looks like hopefully Dusty wont be facing the cops. If so, the AFL and RFC accepting her version, and dusty not fighting and apologizing may be your only confirmations of her version being accepted.

Personally, when he apologized that was pretty much it for me. If there was more to it, his mates would have had his back and argued the counterpoint, and he would have defended himself. The silence of his mates for me is damning

On a personal note, I like Dusty. He's nothing like me, but I love the notion of a bloke who doesn't give a shit about being an Environmental Ambassador, or being on the Footy Show, and just wants to play footy and enjoy his life. I'm gutted this is happening, and take zero joy in it at all.
In normal circumstances I wouldn't be calling for the cops verification to believe someone. But for the reasons I've previously given numerous times, logic tells me she is not being entirely honest with her account. It's not just me alone on this, many people have voiced similar beliefs. Dusty has only apologized for being offensive, not for threatening to kill anyone, so there's a large gray area there if you're basing your beliefs about the allegations mainly on him apologizing. I accept the reasoning behind her not calling the cops immediately or at any point over the weekend, but the fact it doesn't look like they are going to be involved even at this point raises some serious doubts. By the same token, if they don't end up being involved (and I hope for Dusty's sake and our clubs sake they don't) then there is no other choice but to take her at face value. But in the mean time before that side of things is confirmed, anyone questioning the details should not be knocked. It doesn't mean they are victim hating and it doesn't mean Dusty is innocent, but there's obvious logical reasons why they are doing so.
 

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If it's 12 months then the RFC and AFL better prepare themselves for the fallout because if they think everyone is going to applaud them then they are kidding themselves, this could also hurt RFC financially.
I agree there would be a significant revolt , I personally would be fuming
 

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In normal circumstances I wouldn't be calling for the cops verification to believe someone. But for the reasons I've previously given numerous times logic tells me she is not being entirely honest with her account. It's not just me alone on this, many people have voiced similar beliefs. Dusty has only apologized for being offensive, not for threatening to kill anyone, so there's a large gray area there if you're basing your beliefs about the allegations mainly on him apologizing. I accept the reasoning behind her not calling the cops immediately or at any point over the weekend, but the fact it doesn't look like they are going to be involved even at this point raises some big doubts. By the same token, if they don't end up being involved (and I hope for Dusty's and our clubs sake they don't) then there is no other choice to take her at face value. But in the mean time before that side of things is confirmed, anyone questioning the details should not be knocked. It doesn't mean they are victim hating and it doesn't mean Dusty is innocent, but there's obvious logical reasons why they are doing so.
Dont disagree with much of that, I just think we need to ease the rhetoric up on her

some of the stuff being said is just getting way OTT (don't even bother with the main now, they are off on some weird tangent about what degree worse is it for a bloke to beat the shit out of a bloke compared to a bloke beating the shit out of a woman - and I have no friggen idea why its even a point to argue)
 

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If it's 12 months then the RFC and AFL better prepare themselves for the fallout because if they think everyone is going to applaud them then they are kidding themselves, this could also hurt RFC financially.
A Collingwood supporter on the afl judgement panel will naturally want him out for 12 months.
Another grey area.
 

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If it's 12 months then the RFC and AFL better prepare themselves for the fallout because if they think everyone is going to applaud them then they are kidding themselves, this could also hurt RFC financially.
Of course it will, but this isn't about impact upon RFC. It will be 100% about what the AFL considers a publicly fair and acceptable penalty for the offence

right now talk back is mostly backing the KB's
 
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If it's 12 months then the RFC and AFL better prepare themselves for the fallout because if they think everyone is going to applaud them then they are kidding themselves, this could also hurt RFC financially.
Yep...... we are making massive gains both financially for the club and the AFL. the revolt would be damaging
 

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Of course it will, but this isn't about impact upon RFC. It will be 100% about what the AFL considers a publicly fair and acceptable penalty for the offence

right now talk back is mostly backing the KB's
Talk back consisting of 17 opposition clubs supporters thinking that Christmas has come early, hardly a accurate poll.
 
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