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Dylan Roberton

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Decision-making is his area of concern - Could be a major concern if it doesn't improve in the next 2 or 3 years.

Has enough attributes to be a decent player.
 
Dyl is one of the few AFL players I know. He certainly hasn't requested a trade.

For the record, his strengths are he has terrific endurance, and his kicking on both sides of his body is very good. His strength and contested footy are neither a strength of a weakness. He'll never be a Lenny Hayes who throws his body around like anything, but he'll always go when it's his turn and run back with the flight of the ball.

I think the thing that will decide how good he becomes is his decision making. He's such a nice kick that every possession he tries to make something happen, and takes the "hit or miss" kick. He'll either have to become one of the best kicks in the comp in which case he'll be a very good player, or he'll have to learn when is the right time to make the "play-making" kick and when is the time to play it safe.

Like I said, he hasn't requested a trade, but he would perfectly suit coming off half-back for Hawthorn...he was a huge Hawthorn fan as a kid by the way.
 

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cAsEy_18 said:
I think the thing that will decide how good he becomes is his decision making. He's such a nice kick that every possession he tries to make something happen, and takes the "hit or miss" kick. He'll either have to become one of the best kicks in the comp in which case he'll be a very good player, or he'll have to learn when is the right time to make the "play-making" kick and when is the time to play it safe.
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Really? Those lollipops are "nice" kicking?
 
rgauci said:
We've got Fyfe, Ballantyne, Clarke, Ibbotson, Mayne

But we've also got:

Pitt, Houghton, Clayton Hinkley, Clayton Collard, Adam Campbell

The range between 20 and 40 is generally hit and miss. Roberton falls closer to the 1st group than the 2nd.
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1 in 2 is not a bad strike rate for draft picks - especially given that Fyfe could be anything.
 
iameviljez said:
That's not true if cards are played correctly in draft/player development. Just from Geelong alone, Bartel, Ling, Chapman, Wojcinski, Duncan, Christensen, Vardy and Stevie J were all in that pick range.
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As were Daniel Foster (pick 23), Charlier Gardner (23), Tim Callan (36), Cameron Thurley (22), Brent Prismall (32), Stephen Owen (35) and Nathan Djerrkura (25). All taken during a period when the Cats were considered one of the best recruiters in the league.

Also Bartel was pick 8
 
Bender571 said:
As were Daniel Foster (pick 23), Charlier Gardner (23), Tim Callan (36), Cameron Thurley (22), Brent Prismall (32), Stephen Owen (35) and Nathan Djerrkura (25). All taken during a period when the Cats were considered one of the best recruiters in the league.

Also Bartel was pick 8
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What did I say Bartel for? That was stupid...

My point is really that a 2nd round pick is potentially worth plenty, swapping it for a good-ordinary-player isn't a great move.
 
No thanks... Don't want him as part of a deal for Gumby... Would prefer just some draft picks. Don't think Ess need that type of player.
 
Mrs Mercuri said:
No thanks... Don't want him as part of a deal for Gumby... Would prefer just some draft picks. Don't think Ess need that type of player.
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Upgrade on David Myers IMO.
 

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rgauci said:
Geez a 2nd rounder is made to sound like a great pick. It's somewhere between pick 20 and 40. Not that big of an ask.
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So a kid drafted at pick 49 in 2009 (A so called weak draft) goes on to play 30 odd games over 3 years without cemeting his spot in an average team is then worth a pick between 20-35 in a Superdraft.

How is that logical?
 
Third rounder, if Freo throw in the letter s.
 
sivart said:
So a kid drafted at pick 49 in 2009 (A so called weak draft) goes on to play 30 odd games over 3 years without cemeting his spot in an average team is then worth a pick between 20-35 in a Superdraft.

How is that logical?
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Enjoyed your use of weak draft, super draft and average team to labour the point. Take out the descriptive terms and your describing a reasonable exchange.

A kid picked at number 49, plays 30 games in 3 years, requesting pick 20-35 for a trade. Sounds reasonable.
 
rgauci said:
Enjoyed your use of weak draft, super draft and average team to labour the point. Take out the descriptive terms and your describing a reasonable exchange.

A kid picked at number 49, plays 30 games in 3 years, requesting pick 20-35 for a trade. Sounds reasonable.
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What has he done to show he is worth giving up a much better pick than when he was drafted?
 
Went to primary school/high school and played some footy with Dylan at Frankston YCW juniors. Good bloke, hope he gets a better shot at another team, because Fremantle aren't giving him a decent crack.
 

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G0ther00s said:
Went to primary school/high school and played some footy with Dylan at Frankston YCW juniors. Good bloke, hope he gets a better shot at another team, because Fremantle aren't giving him a decent crack.
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You get the crack you deserve mate, who do you suggest he replaces in our line-up?
McPhee or Johnson? They are the ones playing a similar role and are both much better then him. I think he is being groomed for McPhees spot but thats hopefully still 12 months away from coming up.
 
G0ther00s said:
Went to primary school/high school and played some footy with Dylan at Frankston YCW juniors. Good bloke, hope he gets a better shot at another team, because Fremantle aren't giving him a decent crack.
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What team is he going to crack into?
Has been given a decent run at Freo, as much as he would get at almost any other club bar one or two basket cases.
 
sivart said:
So a kid drafted at pick 49 in 2009 (A so called weak draft) goes on to play 30 odd games over 3 years without cemeting his spot in an average team is then worth a pick between 20-35 in a Superdraft.

How is that logical?
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A team that finished 7th and handed out a hiding to the reigning premiers at the G? Get your hand off it mate. Roberton showed real class and poise in his few outing this year, watch his game against Collingwood to see how well this young man can play.
Just staggers me the way draft picks are over-rated here compared to players who have demonstrated they can perform at the top level. He's not a superstar but he's (by all accounts) at complete professional in his training, of strong character, lives to play footy and has shown he can play the game. 22, 3 years in the system, big tank ready to go.Yet the lure of Magic Beans trumps all here on BigFooty.
Fortunately in the real world where recruiters who get paid for this stuff live, reality is where it's at. Will attract plenty of interest if he has in fact asked to leave. I for one will be sorry if he does go, is earmarked for our back 6 when older players (you know, guys with hard experienced bodies like McPhee who are denigrated here but gold for actual coaches like Lyon who know how to win games of footy) are moved on.
 
E Shed said:
A team that finished 7th and handed out a hiding to the reigning premiers at the G? Get your hand off it mate. Roberton showed real class and poise in his few outing this year, watch his game against Collingwood to see how well this young man can play.
Just staggers me the way draft picks are over-rated here compared to players who have demonstrated they can perform at the top level. He's not a superstar but he's (by all accounts) at complete professional in his training, of strong character, lives to play footy and has shown he can play the game. 22, 3 years in the system, big tank ready to go.Yet the lure of Magic Beans trumps all here on BigFooty.
Fortunately in the real world where recruiters who get paid for this stuff live, reality is where it's at. Will attract plenty of interest if he has in fact asked to leave. I for one will be sorry if he does go, is earmarked for our back 6 when older players (you know, guys with hard experienced bodies like McPhee who are denigrated here but gold for actual coaches like Lyon who know how to win games of footy) are moved on.
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Cool story bro!

Now if he didn't play for Freo, what would your real opinion of him be?
 
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