Dylan Roberton

[theGav56]

Sure, I didn't probably put it clear enough first time round. It is highly unusual these days for one club only to swap one player for two.

The Cats did swap one higher draft pick for two lower picks. Not the same thing, but not entirely different.

The Burgoyne deal involved draft picks, but definitely saw some ordinary players at the core of the trade; Jay Nash and Williams come to mind.

 

[Nickos66]

Agree with what someone said earlier, until it's confirmed by the club I won't believe it. If it's confirmed I'd only be after a 2nd round sustantial pick upgrade. maybe for our 3rd even? We don't want too many picks seeing as we're not going to use them.

 

[Patty_Moz]

Yeah Robbo and our 3rd rounder (57) with one of the Melb clubs with a pick around the 25-30 mark.

 

[sabre_ac]

As as been mentioned his decision making has always been a problem, at this stage he is a depth player and you'd have to question whether he would ever become a regular. Based on this I am not overly concerned to see him go, but it also means his value won't be high.

Talk of bundling him with another player is unlikely unless its one of our better players and he's the steak knives, bundling him with another fringe player is a classic Bigfooty trade scenario that never happens. I'd love to get Gumbleton for him but short of that, pick upgrade or another fringe player.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

I'd want Robbo but only if you'll accept Gumbleton, Cale Hooker and Tayte Pears.

Could also throw in Jesse Crichton our way.

P.s. we don't want Kepler Bradley back.

Massive spud.

 

[Silent Alarm]

We won't get that much for Robbo. I'm surprised if he thinks he'll slot into a 22 at a decent Melburnian club. Surely he'd be focusing at a club like St Kilda (on the down), Western Bulldogs (hitting a plateau), or Melbourne (perennially shit). Plus he's never solidified himself in the 22, so clubs have a right to be apprehensive.

Package him with Ibbo and we could get something decent.

Bootsma, although having some Freo heritage, was pick 22. Carlton aren't going to judge him too harshly in his first season (especially considering his frame). It'd be cool to have Bootsma, as I played colts footy with him, but that's the extent to that dream.

 

[Bulldocker]

I'd want Robbo but only if you'll accept Gumbleton, Cale Hooker and Tayte Pears.

Could also throw in Jesse Crichton our way.

P.s. we don't want Kepler Bradley back.

Massive spud.

WTF?
Well OK then. We'll just be requiring Gumby thanks. Just like Kep, he will actually become an asset once he leaves your mob.

 

[Alfonz]

Teams need rucks, talls, midfielders, nippy small forwards that are dangerous (and the small defenders who contain them). The average half back flanker would be just about at the bottom of the list. There is value in the quick rebounding types (e.g. Heath Shaw); or ones with deadly line breaking kicks (e.g. Goddard or Hurn), or even the lock down defensive types. But seeing as Roberton is neither quick nor has a penetrating kick, I really don't see his value being that great to other sides. Somewhere in the pick 35-50 range I think.

 

[Nickos66]

Teams need rucks, talls, midfielders, nippy small forwards that are dangerous (and the small defenders who contain them). The average half back flanker would be just about at the bottom of the list. There is value in the quick rebounding types (e.g. Heath Shaw); or ones with deadly line breaking kicks (e.g. Goddard or Hurn), or even the lock down defensive types. But seeing as Roberton is neither quick nor has a penetrating kick, I really don't see his value being that great to other sides. Somewhere in the pick 35-50 range I think.

Michael Johnson says hi.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

Not just depth, but width too. Awesome.

I've been told it's all about the width.

 

[Harry Reems]

 

[yakka man]

Has anyone mentioned this on the Trade Winds for today on the AFL website?

Fremantle youngster Dylan Roberton is seeking a return to his home state Victoria, with the Herald Sun reporting that he notified Fremantle of his decision to leave on Saturday.

 

[Reveler]

I've never really rated him tbh. will always be a fringe player.

 

[caterina]

I hope if we are trading Roberton, as seems likely, we first try and bundle him up with something else (player or pick) to get a really decent trade.
But if we can't do that, I think we may as well try a KPF gamble. Roberton for Gumby is one gamble. As another, what about Roberton for Lucas Cook and pick 45 from Melbourne?

 

[Dockernut]

Might as well go for Martin if we're dealing with the tanking Melbourne scum. Not that I rate him, but he's showed more at the highest level than Cook.

 

[theGav56]

I've been told it's all about the width.

You saying there's nothing wrong with being a bit thick?

 

[Sman-21]

I think its highly likely we will be players in trade week.

From reports on here, we still have a very full list.
So will need to trade off some players to be able to use 4 or so picks.
So the trades wont be player for player.
It will be Player + draft pick for a pick upgrade.
Or players for draft pick.

 

[strobe00]

I'm not convinced that:

OK player + average player + serviceable player = mind boggling player.

Spot on.

If we're trying to get a hold of a great player, we need to give something up that we really want. A high pick and/or a player we really want to keep. And 16 is not a high pick. If we want Hogan, we're going to have to give up Clarke. Don't see Robbo or Ibbo having the currency to get us enough to package with our pick 16 to get Hogan.

Won't happen when we're competing against Melbourne, the Dogs and Geelong. And the Pies, though don't ask me what they've got to trade for a MD pick.

 

[strobe00]

Yeah Robbo and our 3rd rounder (57) with one of the Melb clubs with a pick around the 25-30 mark.

Now that actually doesn't sound too bad on the face of it. But I reckon we'd still only get something in the range of 30-35 if we were lucky, for that.

 

[strobe00]

I hope if we are trading Roberton, as seems likely, we first try and bundle him up with something else (player or pick) to get a really decent trade.
But if we can't do that, I think we may as well try a KPF gamble. Roberton for Gumby is one gamble. As another, what about Roberton for Lucas Cook and pick 45 from Melbourne?

For all that people reckon Cook is a hack, I guess I find it hard to believe that he's terrible enough to not be worth a shot.

I haven't even seen him play. But he's the right height, seems pretty humble and has been played as a forward. If Robbo is gone, I don't see what we have to lose in bringing in someone like Cook (if he's prepared to come over here).

 

[democritus]

For all that people reckon Cook is a hack, I guess I find it hard to believe that he's terrible enough to not be worth a shot.

I haven't even seen him play. But he's the right height, seems pretty humble and has been played as a forward. If Robbo is gone, I don't see what we have to lose in bringing in someone like Cook (if he's prepared to come over here).

He's playing reserves in the VFL and is far from a standout at that standard either.
He might have the height, but he's barely put on an ounce of muscle over two years.

If he came for free, and separate from any Roberton scenario, perhaps we would be interested. But Haven't we recycled enough c-grade forwards to learn from our past mistakes?

 

[theGav56]

For all that people reckon Cook is a hack, I guess I find it hard to believe that he's terrible enough to not be worth a shot.

I haven't even seen him play. But he's the right height, seems pretty humble and has been played as a forward. If Robbo is gone, I don't see what we have to lose in bringing in someone like Cook (if he's prepared to come over here).

I don't really have an opinion about Cook. But the Dees have been hot for any player who is big and plays forward (Clark and Dawes), so that sends a warning.

The other thing is we actually need to free up some spots on the list, so upgrading a pick is nt a bad option, and could get us a better forward than Cook anyway.

 

[strobe00]

I don't really have an opinion about Cook. But the Dees have been hot for any player who is big and plays forward (Clark and Dawes), so that sends a warning.

The other thing is we actually need to free up some spots on the list, so upgrading a pick is nt a bad option, and could get us a better forward than Cook anyway.

Maybe to the first.

But the bolded makes sense. Provides more latitude for us than a player for player swap, or a player for pick swap.

 

[strobe00]

He's playing reserves in the VFL and is far from a standout at that standard either.
He might have the height, but he's barely put on an ounce of muscle over two years.

If he came for free, and separate from any Roberton scenario, perhaps we would be interested. But Haven't we recycled enough c-grade forwards to learn from our past mistakes?

Reasonable enough I guess. But Kep and McPhee have served a purpose. JA hasn't really gone anywhere, so fair call there. We haven't drafted a key forward since Houghton and Sibosado that I'm aware of, so I forget what it's like to have a young one on the list. Kep, JA and McPhee were all mature KPs when we grabbed them via the PSD, which is probably the point (much lower risk).

The pick upgrade thing could work for me. But I don't think we'll get much of a pick for Robbo, but an upgrade could be handy to grab us a KP that can play forward. So fair enough... you're probably right.

Just desperate to have a KPF on the list really. We'll get one or two this year either way, I'm sure.

 

[democritus]

Just desperate to have a KPF on the list really. We'll get one or two this year either way, I'm sure.

I completely understand where you're coming from. But at the risk of sounding cliched; quality over quantity.

I'd like to see a few Young KPPs on our list as much as the next supporter, yet bar Pavlich we have never shown a great ability to identify and foster young talls.

Hopefully, this is the year that bucks the trend. I'd rather us part with an early pick/quality player and grab a Hogan, Stringer, Jacksch or Shaw than pin our hopes on yet another discard. As a stop-gap solution it's ok, but from a long-term perspective it's not gonna cut it.