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Confirmed Dylan Shiel [traded with future 2nd to Essendon for #9 and future 1st round pick]

Discussion in 'Drafts, Trading & Free Agency' started by Juice0103, Aug 3, 2018.

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Where is Dylan Shiel getting traded?

Poll closed Oct 9, 2018.
  1. Carlton

    182 vote(s)
    39.8%
  2. Essendon

    37 vote(s)
    8.1%
  3. Hawthorn

    146 vote(s)
    31.9%
  4. St Kilda

    71 vote(s)
    15.5%
  5. Other

    21 vote(s)
    4.6%
  1. Holy Rioli

    Holy Rioli Premium Gold

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  2. Jade

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    I must admit I do enjoy when people think they are being clever, and instead are making a complete arse of themselves.

    I'm sure Collingwood will be delighted to hear that the season finishes when the home and away rounds do, they now stand alone with 19 flags.

    Essendon do pretty well out of it too - 17 flags now, a shame we don't sit top of the bunch anymore though.

    Hawks, not so well - you don't wanna know...
     
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  3. threesixpio

    threesixpio Brownlow Medallist

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    We must make the most of our opportunities then hey?

    Good on us
     
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  4. Jade

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    You should.

    Although my personal opinion is you lack the skill or ticker to do any real damage in September.
     
  5. kade

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    To be fair to the hawks youth and list management, it’s a hell of a lot harder to get the elite talent when you finish up near the top most years
     
  6. Jade

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    I agree, it is.
     
  7. threesixpio

    threesixpio Brownlow Medallist

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    Well historically we have - your evidence suggests this
     
  8. Jade

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    Have you?

    History doesn’t seem to have counted for much in a few years - you’re near non-competitive in finals.
     
  9. threesixpio

    threesixpio Brownlow Medallist

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    The last few years ay? Last century was your last flag.

    Last
    Century
     
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  10. Jade

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    Was it? Major difference here, I don't see any Essendon fans bragging about how awesome they've been. In fact, most are quite contrite and readily acknowledge how poor their on field performances have been.

    Par for the course really, and the reason Hawks fans are by some distance the most obtuse in the league when it comes to judging their own.

    In this thread alone Hawks fans have:

    - Claimed they finished top 4 when they didn't
    - Claimed they paid less for Wingard than Essendon paid for Shiel, when they didn't
    - That Essendon rorted the cap in 2000
    - That Essendon exploited the compensation payments as a type of salary cap bend, when they didn't

    Which of course accompanies the absurd claim that Hawthorn 'pulled out' on Shiel. Christ that's embarrassing, so delicate and precious can't even tolerate the idea that Hawthorn are not a destination club.
     
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  11. threesixpio

    threesixpio Brownlow Medallist

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    I never said we paid less. I said we paid more. Burton was a champ.

    All I’ve said (consistently) is that we would not have paid what we paid for Wingard for Shiel. And that’s why we pulled out

    Re Essendon fans being contrite - not enough in my opinion
     

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  12. Jade

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    You didn't pull out. The actions of Hawthorn, the numerous reports, the quotes from people, tell you that you didn't.

    And as for Wingard, you waited until the day after Shiel (very politely and professionally) told you he wasn't interested in playing for you before you committed to him. Not that I blame you, Shiel is comfortably a better player.

    Oh I'm not contrite. Opposition fans can in most cases go **** themselves, and bow down at our feet for consistently keeping the league afloat for the rest of you.
     
  13. threesixpio

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    I placed a press piece above where it showed we were into Wingard before we pulled out of the Shiel deal. This whole next day thing is rubbish.

    We probably wanted to get both if truth be told. But couldn’t. And chose Chad
     
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  14. Bombfire

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    You should have stuck fat with Shiel and offered him more instead of allegedly going cold.
    Shiel would have helped fill a very important and gaping hole in your list.
    Wingard doesn't have the same impact.
    Classic list mis-management.
     
  15. threesixpio

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    Cogs
     
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  16. Bombfire

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    Dylan already in the the thick of it- in the guts.

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  17. Bombfire

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    Bird in the hand...
     
  18. threesixpio

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    Wingerz and Cogs and Jaegar and Mitchell.

    We might need a future first for such things too.

    Verses Shiel, Jaegar and Mitchell with no Cogs and Wingard

    I just threw up. **** that

    Wingerz in the hand and Cogs for dessert
     
  19. threesixpio

    threesixpio Brownlow Medallist

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    Wow. You’re right
     
  20. Bombfire

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    The pins on this would really make you chuck up...

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Bombfire

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    Smashed in the jaw and didn't go down, wonderful pins and jaw.
     
  22. Jade

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    Oh I have no doubt you were in to Wingard. You'd be absolutely derelict in your duty if you weren't cultivating multiple options.

    No it isn't. It's fact. Cold, hard, verifiable fact. Not an opinion, just plain old fact. The day after Shiel chose Essendon, Wingard nominated Hawthorn.

    I'm sure you did want both, I'm sure most clubs would want both. But facts are that you waited for Shiel to reject you before you committed to Wingard.

    You chose Shiel over Wingard, and were rejected.
     
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  23. threesixpio

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    Nup
     
  24. threesixpio

    threesixpio Brownlow Medallist

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    Did you ever see any reports that we were prepared to pay two firsts for Shiel? Anywhere?

    The only “two firsts” offer made was by Dodoro who then backtracked. It was so close to a total stuff up.

    After Dodo backtracked Shiel seriously considered staying and GWS had no salary cap issues after handing over Scully for peanuts so we’re happy to hang on to him unless they got their two first picks.

    GWS played it very well. Good club
     
  25. Vindicater

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    You are a way better troll than ABASI. How many fish have you caught so far?
     
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