Fantasy Dynasty League 2008 - Discussion

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Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Alright I'll say one more thing to those of you who say it doesn't matter just give them the picks.

Juddy missed the deadline got Bruce then after whinging and and a load of BS was given his preferred pick Sedrick Ellis.

I didn't care because he had another pick before my next one.

Guess what he does the same next pick and ends up with gets Bruce.

so if the rules weren't bent the first time, I might be getting a player I wanted at my next pick. But by following the rules through the whole comp and using a bit of common sense, I get screwed.

But it makes no differene to give them the picks does it oh knowledgable ones. ;)

yeah, I should be happy shouldn't I.

The same shit will happen again in this draft and next years and the year after because it is full of lazy uncommited players(I mean it's not like someone doesn't already have form for missing things right.;)) .




ah nothing like a commited drafter who after organising everyone to get online at one time and hits the bottle. What dedication.


You know what I still wouldn't care one bit. It is a "fantasy" game. Has no effect on my life. Seems to be the biggest thing in your life the way you've carried on.

Way to keep it chilled Daddy Cool. :p:thumbsu:
 

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Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

I'll be honest, I personally don't care which ever way it goes. But I'll be pretty annoyed if we come this far only for people to pull out and quit.
 

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I'll be honest, I personally don't care which ever way it goes. But I'll be pretty annoyed if we come this far only for people to pull out and quit.

You know what im annoyed about?

These people who are now carrying on didnt give two squirts of piss when the rules were actually changed to disadvantage people earlier. But now, because a preexisting rule which they knew about before it hit them has impacted on them, theres a major issue?
 

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Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

You know what im annoyed about?

These people who are now carrying on didnt give two squirts of piss when the rules were actually changed to disadvantage people earlier. But now, because a preexisting rule which they knew about before it hit them has impacted on them, theres a major issue?
no southern it has actually impacted very little. I'll still get a player in the position(I mean Ellis is actually quite a gamble no certainty).

I'm pissed because when this exact same thing already happpened it was had out and "Lines were drawn in the sand".
Christ it was just 2 days ago these lines were drawn. Now we have someone trying the same BS and they will get away with it as well.

As I said it is just ####ing laziness that causes this too happen in the first place. No wonder we live in Welfarstralia. Sit on your arse do nothing then complain when it doesn't go your way. Yep sums up this draft.

You even missed your first pick in the draft and guess what it could've been a RB and ####ed your so called "strategy" instead of being Manning. One wonders what your own reaction would've been.

I propose a name change of the league to Bludgers Dynasty League.
 

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BTW, GG, stick to your guns mate.

You shouldnt walk away from what you've been doing, without you none of these leagues would be anywhere near as advanced as they are.
Your on the money there. GG has been fantastic. I think some should cut him some more leeway as it wouldn't be easy, and hell he's not even in this league yet he effectively runs it.

I think we just need to knuckle down and finish this draft. We have what, 10 rounds left? Once it's out of the way everyone can shut up and we can take all the time we like to do list management. But for now, lets just do it. If we get screwed move on, we know the rules, lets follow them.
 

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and what great respect they are showing GG, Southern. It's all on display. He spent numerous hours organising everything, they can't be bothered with a few 5 mins PM's.

what word would you use to describe it?
 

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no southern it has actually impacted very little. I'll still get a player in the position(I mean Ellis is actually quite a gamble no certainty).

I'm pissed because when this exact same thing already happpened it was had out and "Lines were drawn in the sand".
Christ it was just 2 days ago these lines were drawn. Now we have someone trying the same BS and they will get away with it as well.

As I said it is just ####ing laziness that causes this too happen in the first place. No wonder we live in Welfarstralia. Sit on your arse do nothing then complain when it doesn't go your way. Yep sums up this draft.
No, actually, you werent the one i was addressing with that quote.

Still, werent you the guy who was Mr. Cool personified last week? Dont get upset over petty little things like Dynasty? Suddenly you're running around swearing and abusing people. Great work.

You even missed your first pick in the draft and guess what it could've been a RB and ####ed your so called "strategy" instead of being Manning. One wonders what your own reaction would've been.
I wouldnt have made a fuss, just like i didnt at the time. I was expecting the guideline to be adhered to strictly the whole time. I moved my draft board around when i got Manning. I could very easily have built my team around stud running backs. Manning wasnt the player i was going to take.
 

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Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Im a little upset because Galactic turned it around on me like it's my fault and i should've supported his motion to have his pick reversed. Like I should do it as a friend. But friendship aside, im not here to play favorites. Just to help facilitate the draft, fire a rocket up people, make sure no one ruins it for everyone else. It's upsetting if galactic gets mad at me for just sticking by the rules and the truth. I wont favor anyone. Fair for one, fair for all. Wont compromise that.

And dspeed saying that stuff isnt upsetting, just agenda driven it would seem by him. The stuff he said has no relevancy at all to the argument going on here. Which was purely about deadlines broken and people complaining wanting rules bent.

I just want you guys to all stick together and not quit and get thru the draft, and then it'll be clear sailing from there. And Galactic imo has to suck it up and not get too proud to refuse to come back to the league and put it all behind him.
 

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Im a little upset because Galactic turned it around on me like it's my fault and i should've supported his motion to have his pick reversed. Like I should do it as a friend. But friendship aside, im not here to play favorites. Just to help facilitate the draft, fire a rocket up people, make sure no one ruins it for everyone else. It's upsetting if galactic gets mad at me for just sticking by the rules and the truth. I wont favor anyone. Fair for one, fair for all. Wont compromise that.

And dspeed saying that stuff isnt upsetting, just agenda driven it would seem by him. The stuff he said has no relevancy at all to the argument going on here. Which was purely about deadlines broken and people complaining wanting rules bent.

I just want you guys to all stick together and not quit and get thru the draft, and then it'll be clear sailing from there. And Galactic imo has to suck it up and not get too proud to refuse to come back to the league and put it all behind him.
Its an unpopular job, but someone has to do it.

Look, its got nothing to do with you. We outlined very clearly two days or so ago what would happen, and now we need to stick to it.

Juddy and Galactic didnt object then, theyve got no recourse now, its Bruce and Gabriel.

As far as coming back goes, im someone whos been in that position, and imo had a stronger case to feel hard done by. At the end of the day, its more fun to play than not play, so dont let pride pigeon hole you.
 

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Its an unpopular job, but someone has to do it.

Look, its got nothing to do with you. We outlined very clearly two days or so ago what would happen, and now we need to stick to it.

Juddy and Galactic didnt object then, theyve got no recourse now, its Bruce and Gabriel.

As far as coming back goes, im someone whos been in that position, and imo had a stronger case to feel hard done by. At the end of the day, its more fun to play than not play, so dont let pride pigeon hole you.
I'm happy to stick with that ruling. I didn't mind if they got their players, but it seems like others don't agree. We definately did say no exceptions the other day, so I'm happy to go with that. We have to just keep this thing rolling so we can get through it. It's moving as slow as it ever has right at the moment.
 

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I dont see why not.

We outlined it clearly. There were to be no exceptions.

They get the players they were assigned originally, and the draft moves on.

You did the right thing by deciding that there were to be no more exceptions, because of the controversy caused by trying to please people, stick to that amigo. You've got the support of the vast majority of players.
 

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I would like to stick to that policy. But it first requires Galactic to accept gabriel and move on to happily finish the draft and continue playing in the league.

The reason why I "cant" go further back is because right now the only two picks live are juddy's and galactics. So they can both take Haynesworth and Clements as no one has selected them in the future.

But if i were to go back to Galactic's Gostkowski pick and ask him who he wanted, he could've said someone that's already been taken since, and that would throw the draft into chaos. And so, same if i go back even further...."oh i would've taken frank gore there", "i wouldve taken houshmanzadeh", etc.
 

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Firstly I dont care about the gostowski pick, I'll live with it. I have been since it was made.I was using it to highlight I was getting screwed twice in 3 picks.

Secondly I was hoping you (GG) would see the sense in my objection! Not to be friendly or agenda driven.Dspeed was right when he said Common sense decision, it is!.. I gave judy the extra time to make his pick and I pay for it.Judy is a reg on here and I know he works nights so I gave him some more time. Just like I have given others in this league a couple of extra hours when their pick was due at 6:00am and other awkward hours ect.It was 7am here for me.Im not online at 7am, I'm busy.An hour later I am and its too late. It was ok to be hard line at first but we are nearly done with the draft! Givin the fact that shifty had not made his pick all I want to have is the simple request to have the player I wanted.Then I get keyboard fire from others in the league because of it.I doubt this matter effects any of them what so ever.

Oh and I still want my pick! Im not accepting Gabriel Im one DP down from the kicker pick already as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Firstly I dont care about the gostowski pick, I'll live with it. I have been since it was made.I was using it to highlight I was getting screwed twice in 3 picks.

Secondly I was hoping you (GG) would see the sense in my objection! Not to be friendly or agenda driven.Dspeed was right when he said Common sense decision, it is!.. I gave judy the extra time to make his pick and I pay for it.Judy is a reg on here and I know he works nights so I gave him some more time. Just like I have given others in this league a couple of extra hours when their pick was due at 6:00am and other awkward hours ect.It was 7am here for me.Im not online at 7am, I'm busy.An hour later I am and its too late. Givin the fact that shifty had not made his pick all I want to have is the simple request to have the player I wanted.Then I get keyboard fire from others in the league because of it.I doubt this matter effects any of them what so ever.

Oh and I still want my pick! Im not accepting Gabriel Im one DP down from the kicker pick already as far as I'm concerned.

Sense in your objection?

We laid out pretty clearly a few days ago that there would be no more exceptions. Why did you not object then?

Why should you be allowed to operate outside the rules we've laid out?

You have no right to pick after missing your deadline. Its not 'common sense' at all.

Theres no reasonable excuse for missing a pick when you could send a list to someone else. In reality, you need to accept responsibility for it yourself.

Thats not 'keyboard fire', but the reality. The rules havent changed in the last day, so why do you deserve to be treated differently?
 

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Imo, just make a decision....which will effect the rest of the drafting habits. Stick with Clements, meaning I give Juddy Haynesworth, and this continues the precedence of people missing deadlines, not PMing picks, and expecting forced picks to be reversed. More arguments. Or, accept Gabriel, Juddy gets given Bruce back, and we continue on with those strict rules in place and no one can ever argue about rules being bent.

This isnt AT YOU, it's just a precendence has to be set. A good precedence. And I dont think bending the new strict rules is a good precendence. But if you all wanna ease up again, and take it slower, then you're welcome to. I still wouldnt think "oh we're in round 20 now, we can kick back and slow down now" because the longer a draft goes the slower it goes. Better to get it all done and out of the way asap.

Anyway, it's a decision for you all to make. Whatever you decide galactic, I'll update the draft to show Clements or Gabriel, and the draft continues on whichever way you decide. I wont ever personally hold it against you, or be here blaming and hating you if you decide Clements. Just in my impartial opinion. But choose Clements if you really want to. I just want to finalize what the picks are so that the draft can proceed now.
 

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I think the problem began because no one mentioned that Juddy's time was up until 8 o clock tonight (or last night) when it had in fact been up for a long time.

Is that the basis of it Galactic?
 

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Re: Beta Dynasty - DISCUSSION

Speaking of precedence GG...

If we're setting the precedent that threatening to quit will result in rules being ignored, can we reset that Qb rule? ;):p
That's one thing unfortunately that HAD TO be changed. Like being tied up beside a live bomb and the only way out is to hack off your right hand.

But anyway....look, I'll just make the decision myself.

Juddy = haynesworth.
galactic = clements.

deadlines will probably be broken again and more arguments occur but #### it. we're almost at the end, and the sooner we get there the better.
 

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That's one thing unfortunately that HAD TO be changed. Like being tied up beside a live bomb and the only way out is to hack off your right hand.

But anyway....look, I'll just make the decision myself.

Juddy = haynesworth.
galactic = clements.

deadlines will probably be broken again and more arguments occur but #### it. we're almost at the end, and the sooner we get there the better.

Since theres no consequence, id like to announce that ill be taking as long as i please to make my next pick. The longer the better.

Edit: This means Juddys gotten out of jail twice. Thats ####ed up.
 
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