dysfunctional...

[GoTheSwannies]

Is the word I'd use to describe our forward line

When goodes & Ben mcglynn are our 2 most dangerous forwards you know we're in serious trouble.

One does his best work in the midfield & the other is one of the shortest guys in the team.
We'll never be a contender until we get our forward line in order, look at the stats and its obviously our biggest concern

Remember the days when our forward line consisted of hall, o'loughlin, Davis, rok schneider & a couple others who could chip in, compared to what we're working with now its a huge drop.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention for the first time this year.

 

[SM]

Who the **** cares who kicks our goals as long as someone kicks them? Jude and others have been doing fine so far.

 

[Coptic Soldier]

we just need O'Keefe back to form and our forward line wont look as thin.

 

[Dangas]

Who the **** cares who kicks our goals as long as someone kicks them? Jude and others have been doing fine so far.

We can't keep crumbing goals, we need more 'mark' goals, bring up a stat on our scoring shots this year and how many have been set shots, live up to your name

 

[CAS79]

I saw aus e bloke had posted here at 4 in the morning and after guessing he had a big night out on the town for Easter and his tiredness that dysfunctional would be the operative word.

But no it was a serious thread

 

[Hooley McBoob]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention for the first time this year.

Genuine lol

 

[Dangas]

I saw aus e bloke had posted here at 4 in the morning and after guessing he had a big night out on the town for Easter and his tiredness that dysfunctional would be the operative word.

But no it was a serious thread

I don't remember posting this

 

[SM]

We can't keep crumbing goals, we need more 'mark' goals, bring up a stat on our scoring shots this year and how many have been set shots, live up to your name

How about I bring up the more important stat of 2W 1D 1L. We're not exactly floundering around at the bottom of the ladder, so people need to stop whinging.

 

[Dangas]

How about I bring up the more important stat of 2W 1D 1L. We're not exactly floundering around at the bottom of the ladder, so people need to stop whinging.

Read CASs post

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Who the **** cares who kicks our goals as long as someone kicks them? Jude and others have been doing fine so far.

You've missed the point, there's no doubt we're a good team, but we won't be contenders until we get a forward who can contribute consistently. We've barely scraped by against middle of the road teams so far. We keep talking about getting our 1st string defenders back on the park but its our forward line that needs help. Since hall left we've had a make shift forward line. I remember when we played the dogs at manuka in 2010, seeing Jude lining up in the forward line and thinking geez, we're in trouble. Now its become standard. Midfielders are meant to be contributers, not your bread and butter.

 

[SM]

I wouldn't call Essendon middle of the road but I get what you're saying.

I'd still say White at FF, Reid on the forward flank, and Goodes at CHF is a functional forward line, we just aren't seeing it enough. When Goodes goes into the midfield, chuck ROK there, or FFS, bring Pyke or Seaby in.

We have the ingredients, we're just being too dense to put it together and make a cake.

 

[disgruntled goat]

I agree with Stat on not getting too miserable about our overall record. We've lost one game, and there were reasons and excuses; geez, imagine being a North fan today or, worse, Port. Don't forget St Kilda was pencilled in as a certain top four team, but the Saints were lucky to get past Brisbane for their first win, will be sitting well outside the top eight after this weekend and have to play the Crows in Adelaide next week.

We've got two wins and a draw on the board; come off the bye with a win over Carlton and some winnable games in the next month. We've got the Dogs in Canberra, Port and Hawthorn at the SCG, then North at Etihad, Brisbane at the Gabba, Richmond at the SCG and Carlton again at Etihad before we meet Collingwood.

We could have at least eight wins, a draw and a bye after 13 rounds before a crack at the Pies at ANZ.

Usually (not always, but usually) we get better as the season goes on, and this season should work out that way, particularly as we get experienced defenders back, hopefully sort out reliable forward and ruck set-ups AND get more games into our young players.

The fact we've won two and drawn one with a "dysfunctional" forward line and also still finding out how best to exploit the new rules suggests, if nothing else, that other teams still find it very tough to beat us.

This is an unusual season so far, in that with every round one more team seems to be proving itself not good enough.

We need to beat Carlton to prove we're up among those teams the next rung down from Collingwood but there's a lot to be optimistic about.

 

[Jack2Johnston]

Dysfunctional is definitely the word however not sure its a personnel issue. More a problem with poor positioning, if we can get TDL back in to be Jesse's foil again, he always seemed to position himself in the right spots.

At the moment it looks bad because of how often our opponents simply run it out quickly after our entries.

(Would like to see Pyke given a run alternating with Mumford between Goalsquare and ruck, A deep marking target is invaluable and Pyke for his faults has a great set of hands)

 

[BIGBEZ]

(Would like to see Pyke given a run alternating with Mumford between Goalsquare and ruck, A deep marking target is invaluable and Pyke for his faults has a great set of hands)

he certainly has 'presence' .. would take the biggest backman out of the contest and free up others, and rest Mummy..

 

[longhorse]

(Would like to see Pyke given a run alternating with Mumford between Goalsquare and ruck, A deep marking target is invaluable and Pyke for his faults has a great set of hands)

Pyke does have a great set of hands, but he doesn't trust his own kicking. He always looks for the handball and never wants to kick. I think he would have a heart attack if he had to take a set shot at goal.

 

[grimlock]

Pyke does have a great set of hands, but he doesn't trust his own kicking. He always looks for the handball and never wants to kick. I think he would have a heart attack if he had to take a set shot at goal.

This was very true last year but he's been less hesistant to kick it this year as it looks like he has improved his kicking by quite some margin. They're less up-and-under and more like your traditional drop punt trajectory.

 

[legend166]

I just want us to have a permanent full forward. To be honest I don't care who it is. White, Bradshaw (if he ever returns), Pyke, whatever. I just think this whole thing of having our FF also rotate through the ruck kills us. I also think if we get a permanent full forward TDL can come back and flourish. At the minute my preferred forward set up is this:

Bolton Reid McGlynn
Bevan White TDL

Rotate Goodes and Pyke (as the second ruckman) through there and I think it's a good set up.

It has a lead up forward who can straighten things up (Reid). A quasi-big-full forward come crumber when the ball hits the ground (White), who hopefully can start taking marks and crashing packs, and a very smart small/medium forward who knows how to find space and only needs to get the ball 10 times and he'll kick 3-4 goals.

Add to that Bevan/McGlynn/Bolton who are tackle machines and I think that's a good set up. The only thing it's missing is a really smart crumber, but I think between White and TDL we could cover that.

Best of all, outside of Jude, all those guys could be there in five years time. We need stability up there. We haven't had it since the Hall/O'Loughlin team was broken up.