Eagles Best 22 in 2022

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Mikevk123

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B B.Sheppard T.Barrass A.Witherdan
HB S.Hurn J.McGovern J.Rotham
C A.Gaff E.Yeo L.Duggan
HF L.Ryan J.Darling J.Cripps
F W.Rioli J.Kennedy O.Allen
FOLL: N.Naitanui D.Sheed T.Kelly
INTER: L.Shuey, L.Edwards, SPS, J.Petrucclle
Sub: T.Cole
 

dajesmac

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Round 1, with no Shep or Redden:

Hurn - McGovern - Rotham
Foley - Barrass - Cole
Gaff - Yeo - Sheed
Waterman - Darling - Cripps
Ryan - Kennedy - Allen

Naitanui - Shuey - Kelly

Duggan - Rioli - B. Williams - L. Edwards
Sub: SPS

WAFL team:

Nelson - H. Edwards - ?
Witherden - Bazzo - Chesser
Hough - Clark - O'Neill
Petrucelle - J. Williams - Winder
Langdon - ? - Jones

Jamieson - West - Trew
 

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Carbine Chaos

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Round 1, with no Shep or Redden:

Hurn - McGovern - Rotham
Foley - Barrass - Cole
Gaff - Yeo - Sheed
Waterman - Darling - Cripps
Ryan - Kennedy - Allen

Naitanui - Shuey - Kelly

Duggan - Rioli - B. Williams - L. Edwards
Sub: SPS

WAFL team:

Nelson - H. Edwards - ?
Witherden - Bazzo - Chesser
Hough - Clark - O'Neill
Petrucelle - J. Williams - Winder
Langdon - ? - Jones

Jamieson - West - Trew
Kennedy/Allen/Darling/Waterman in the same forward line? With Williams on the bench?
 

Cursedsword02

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Rotham - Barrass - Hurn
Duggan - Gov - Cole
Sheed - Yeo - Gaff
Naitanui - Clark - Kelly
Cripps - Darling - Shuey
Allen - Kennedy - Ryan

B. Williams - Sheed/Ledwards - Witherden/Chesser - Rioli

WAFL Team:

Foley - Hedwards - Sumich (<- WAFL Top-up)
Witherden/Chesser - Bazzo - Nelson
Hough - West - Ledwards
Jamieson - O'Neill - Trew (Sheed if out of AFL Team)
Winder - Waterman - Langdon
Petch - J. Williams - Jones

Gave my R1 22 a redo with the news about Redden and Sheppard. Also added my WAFL team for good measure. (Sidenote: Kieran Hug will almost definitely be a starter imo.)
 

amazingjoshy

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Isn’t that a setup we often roll with?
Yeah we did this year and we almost always got pantsed when we did. Way too tall (we also had Brander on a wing for alot of it too)

There's no way that forward line can apply enough pressure to hold the ball in and not see it waltzed out.

The 2nd ruck dilemma is still to be solved
 

flamingEMBERS

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Hurn Barrass Cole
Witherden McGovern Duggan
Gaff Shuey Nelson
Rioli Darling Cripps
Allen Kennedy Ryan

Naitanui Kelly Yeo

Petrevski-Seton Clark Williams Rotham

EMG: Chesser, Waterman, Petrucelle, Foley

Notable omissions:
Sheed - probably will play rd1 but I'd rock the boat early with a senior player and his defensive work was horrid last year
Sheppard - retirement?
Redden - injured

Notes and thoughts:
Nelson brings a run with option. He also looks to take the game on. Expecting him to have a solid season
Still no room for Waterman
Who are the other 2 not vaccinated??? One spot could change but could 3??
Will McGovern be right early in the season - I wouldn't rush him back
 

Carbine Chaos

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What I'd like to see for Round 1, if Redden/Sheppard aren't available...

FB: S Hurn, T Barrass, T Cole
HB: J Rotham, J McGovern, L Duggan
C: A Gaff, D Sheed, L Shuey
HF: W Rioli, J Darling, J Cripps
FF: L Ryan, J Kennedy, O Allen

R: N Naitanui, T Kelly, E Yeo

I: B Williams, A Witherden, G Clark, J Petruccelle


Leaves a pretty handy Beagles side to start the season...

FB: Top Up, H Edwards, Top Up
HB: L Foley, R Bazzo, J Nelson
C: L Edwards, Z Trew, C Chesser
HF: J Jones, J Waterman, B Hough
FF: I Winder, J Williams, Z Langdon

R: C Jamieson, X O'Neill, C West

I: Rookie Pick, Top Up, Top Up, Top Up
 

KBLT

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With Redden and Shep likely not playing next year

Hurn, Barrass, Witherden
Cole, McGovern, Duggan

Gaff, Clark, Sheed

Rioli, Darling, Shuey
Allen, Kennedy, Ryan

Naitanui, Kelly, Yeo

Cripps, SPS, Rotham/Foley, H.Edwards

HEdwards and Gov can take turns relieving Naitanui in the ruck
60% Naitanui
20% Gov
20% HEdwards
When one of Gov or HEdwards are rucking, the other is at CHB. When Nic is rucking, one of the two is on the bench.
 

GlennTwenty

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Hurn, Barrass, Cole
Witherden, McGovern, Duggan

Gaff, Clarke, Kelly
Naitanui, Yeo, Shuey

Rioli, Darling, Cripps
Allen, Kennedy, Ryan

Sheed, SPS, H.Edwards, L.Edwards
 

omgfridge

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What I'd like to see for Round 1, if Redden/Sheppard aren't available...

FB: S Hurn, T Barrass, T Cole
HB: J Rotham, J McGovern, L Duggan
C: A Gaff, D Sheed, L Shuey
HF: W Rioli, J Darling, J Cripps
FF: L Ryan, J Kennedy, O Allen

R: N Naitanui, T Kelly, E Yeo

I: B Williams, A Witherden, G Clark, J Petruccelle


Leaves a pretty handy Beagles side to start the season...

FB: Top Up, H Edwards, Top Up
HB: L Foley, R Bazzo, J Nelson
C: L Edwards, Z Trew, C Chesser
HF: J Jones, J Waterman, B Hough
FF: I Winder, J Williams, Z Langdon

R: C Jamieson, X O'Neill, C West

I: Rookie Pick, Top Up, Top Up, Top Up
Think you missed SPS, want him in main team or wafl rnd 1?
 

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Carbine Chaos

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Think you missed SPS, want him in main team or wafl rnd 1?
Was just thinking I’d missed him before! He could probably go either way depending on his preseason, I’d have him fighting with Withers/Clark/Petch for those bench spots. Would prefer we start him in the seniors as I reckon he’s a fair confidence player.
 

omgfridge

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My ideal round 1 team would be this (also assuming no Shep/Redden)

Witherden - Barrass - Cole
Hurn - McGovern - Rotham
Shuey - Clark - Gaff
Rioli - Darling - SPS
Allen - Kennedy - Ryan

Naitanui - Kelly - Yeo

Duggan - Cripps - Sheed - B.Williams

Sub: Petruccelle

Emerg: H.Edwards, L.Edwards, C.Chesser

Think thats a pretty dynamic team so can handle the added ruck of Williams. If Sheed is spudding - no issues dropping him for Luke. SPS to rotate through central midfield - I also want Clark in there round 1 first bounce. I never want injuries but I think Harry will be very unlucky not be in the team next year, really rate him.
 

The Passenger

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You'd have to think the club sees Clark as best 22 - even clubs in full premiership mode (rather than what I would term us - speculative premiership mode) don't normally go down the 24-year-old route just to have them as depth. Redden's expected absence for the start of the season opens at least one spot.

Chesser should play a decent amount of games. Maybe a dozen or so. He's pretty big bodied for a draftee. Beyond Redden's absence, most of us felt we were a midfielder short on the rotation. Even if the club doesn't think we need another midfield in the 22, the bottom couple of mids each week are vulnerable so there are spots up for grabs of which Chesser will be in that mix. Obviously his draft profile also said half back flanker, but when you see his highlights and his size, he could get experience in any third of the ground in 2022 and 2023, although that isn't really Simmo's coaching philosophy (I'm a Simmo fan but would like him to show a little more flexibility on player roles - at least 2-3 guys each weekend). Hopefully the club sees Chess' long term future in the middle third.

I'd like to see the club have at least one more month(ish) long stint of seeing how Duggan goes on the wing. 100% agree it didn't work in 2021. But I'd like to see him have another go. If it doesn't work this time, I'd probably be comfortable calling time on that experiment. I just think we'd be a lot stronger 22 if he can make it a midfielder.

One thing I would like to not see in 2022 is Oscar the permanent second ruckman. If we play a game with no specialist backup ruckman, please, please rotate the duties. I know it's not really the done thing but gee Oscar was banged up by seasons end. If Williams has improved enough to be a genuine second ruck that is a fine as well - we can use the time when Williams is in the forward line to spell Oscar, JK and JD.

The ruck/key forward game time split to me should be either
a) NicNat 2/3 ruck, 1/3 bench. Williams 1/3 ruck, 1/3 fwd, 1/3 bench. JD, Allen and JK 5/6 fwd, 1/6 bench - that equates to about 2 x 8-10 min spells on the bench each. 90% of the game we have 3 key forwards. 2 key forwards for the small remainder. This is a tall team which means Waterman would struggle to get a run with this selection.
b) NicNat 2/3 ruck, 1/3 bench. JD, Gov, OA splitting 1/3 ruck between them. Would mean are generally 50/50 for when we have 2 key forwards or 3. Waterman could switch between third tall forward (think Gunston 2012) or play as a tall wingman.

For mine, I think option b gives us a bit more flexibility and allows us for a bit more run. This decision essentially comes down to a pre-season battle between Waterman and Williams for that final tall selection and the tactic we take around our rucks. Will be interesting to see if the club sees it the same way. I didn't think it really worked when both played, as well as OA, JK and JD.

I think most of us will be livid if we go down OA the main second ruck with minimal support and he is banged up completely again by the last third of the season.
 

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