Rumour Eagles to keep Mitchell

[Buzz Hawk]

I imagine Sammy would be well aware of his contractual obligations. He wouldn’t be making this call unless he knew exactly what his obligations are. He knows what he’s doing; he’s coming home and the eagles can’t stop that. It’s all in the fine print kids.

 

[Nugett]

Sammy needs to drive Hilly back.

 

[Farang83150]

If he's gotta go for family reasons then so be it but he and WC should've waited until the end of the finals campaign before it was public.

 

[Rod Stroker]

You're talking about on going contracts though. Contracts where someone signs up for 4+ years are a bit different. And the eagles could probably reasonably argue that Mitchell has been in training for these 2 years.

I'm talking about any employment contract. Either fixed contract or not, they don't usually have clauses where the contractor needs to pay money if they give notice.

 

[Rod Stroker]

If he's gotta go for family reasons then so be it but he and WC should've waited until the end of the finals campaign before it was public.

Agree. No idea why this had to come out now. It's a distraction the Eagles could do without.

 

[00Stinger]

opposition analysist would allow him to stay in Victoria

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[Rod Stroker]

Brad Lloyd the Freo List GM has been based out of Melbourne. Not sure how effective that is though when the rest of the leadership team is on the other side of a country in a different time zone.

 

[Cobbler]

Pretty low move.
These sort of plays regardless of reason should see the contracted person not be in the system for the time their contract is given.
So he should sit out for 2 years IMO. See if that alters the ‘go home’ thinking. He’s essentially played the Eagles.

Now before anyone states what about player X etc that leave before their contract is up. This is completely different in that he can’t be traded.

Never liked him and this is exactly the sort of play he was capable of.

If he’s at Hawks next season? Golly the AFL world are terribly gullible.

 

[Isaba]

I agree with you. You don't bail on a contract.

Think of all the assistant coaches/admin staff that have "bailed" on contracts with Hawthorn over the last few years - Hawthorn have respected their wishes and let them go. Funny how the boot is (potentially) on the other foot now someone wants out. Might be an idea to remind Simmo of his contract status when he left Hawthorn.

 

[kriles76]

Think of all the assistant coaches/admin staff that have "bailed" on contracts with Hawthorn over the last few years - Hawthorn have respected their wishes and let them go. Funny how the boot is (potentially) on the other foot now someone wants out. Might be an idea to remind Simmo of his contract status when he left Hawthorn.

I’m not aware of Simpson’s contract but it’s convention for assistant coaches to have clauses in their contract saying that they are able to leave should they be offered a head coach’s role at another club - which Simpson did when he left to coach West Coast.

But I don’t think that leaving for a parallel role quite meets that definition. Look at Melbourne - they tried to hire Stuart Dew from Sydney to become the heir apparent to Roos. But Sydney refused him on the basis that Dew would still be an assistant coach at Melbourne and that it was not a head coach role - rightfully I might add.

 

[kriles76]

Brad Lloyd the Freo List GM has been based out of Melbourne. Not sure how effective that is though when the rest of the leadership team is on the other side of a country in a different time zone.

In these days of teleconferences, streaming, emails and mobile phones, who knows what we are capable of?

You don’t need to sit in the same room with someone to communicate and/or direct. Corporations and government entities have been doing it for years.

 

[Xtreme]

He will take a job anywhere in Melbourne...he is coming back to Melbourne

Highly doubt he'd go to the Bombers especially after his recent comments!!

 

[hawksalltheway]

will go to Stkilda

 

[Mitchell54]

honestly don't want him at Hawthorn. Don't want a Hird, Watson, Ratten, Malthouse, Voss situation.

2 years on a contract is a lot of time and money and WC should be a little pissed. hope they work out an arrangement

 

[kaiserchief13]

LOL! Good luck with that. Would get laughed out of court.
They haven't paid him those dollars yet for the rest of his contract, so nothing to pay back.

Complete the contract then. Don't sign the contract if you aren't willing to fulfill it

 

[Rod Stroker]

In these days of teleconferences, streaming, emails and mobile phones, who knows what we are capable of?

You don’t need to sit in the same room with someone to communicate and/or direct. Corporations and government entities have been doing it for years.

Obviously. For official meetings, etc, it's fine. But when you aren't in the same location, you're not part of the "water cooler" chat, you can't have a quick unofficial meeting for a few minutes over a coffee for example, you can't whiteboard over a teleconference, etc.

As someone who occasionally works remotely, it definitely has an impact.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Complete the contract then. Don't sign the contract if you aren't willing to fulfill it

I'm sure when he signed 2 years ago he was willing to fulfill it. But circumstances and situations change. That's life.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I'm sure when he signed 2 years ago he was willing to fulfill it. But circumstances and situations change. That's life.

Anyone can have that excuse then. What's the point of a contract then?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

will go to Stkilda

Ewww

 

[blue harvest]

Sammy needs to drive Hilly back.

 

[Scotland]

Think of all the assistant coaches/admin staff that have "bailed" on contracts with Hawthorn over the last few years - Hawthorn have respected their wishes and let them go. Funny how the boot is (potentially) on the other foot now someone wants out. Might be an idea to remind Simmo of his contract status when he left Hawthorn.

You mean assistant coaches offered head coaching positions? Not quite the same. Clarkson himself was an assistant at Port when he was hired by Hawthorn, during the 2004 finals as well. Not sure many remember but we had Michael Voss signed up as an assistant coach before he took over at Brisbane.

I don't see Sam Mitchell working for us next year. I'd like him to, but I'm not sure how workable it is. He could conceivably sit in Melbourne all year watching games and formulating strategies for us to beat opposition sides but I'm not convinced that alone would give us value for money. It's disappointing but if his family want to return to Melbourne so be it. I'm not suggesting it's the reason but I'd be surprised if he doesn't have an off the record offer or offers lined up already to coach elsewhere. If we found out Simon Black or someone was coming back to Perth I'm sure we'd do the same thing.

 

[SaltPeter]

Darren Glass filled a coaching role largely via Skype with Adelaide. No reason Mitchell couldn’t fill an analysts role in Melbourne and travel for games to assist in the coaches box

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

All this fuss over an assistant coach

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

I'm talking about any employment contract. Either fixed contract or not, they don't usually have clauses where the contractor needs to pay money if they give notice.

A contract the doesn't allow you to walk away from your employment is in fact slavery. There may be enforceable restrictions in working for competitors, maybe. These are often hotly contested. Bottom line is a contract isn't enforceable if it's contrary to law.

 

[jdisc]

A contract the doesn't allow you to walk away from your employment is in fact slavery. There may be enforceable restrictions in working for competitors, maybe. These are often hotly contested. Bottom line is a contract isn't enforceable if it's contrary to law.

ummmmmmm

it’s not slavery if you get the decision to sign it genius