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He is an outstanding prospect, that will play at least 10 AFL games next season. He has the skill and determination to take him far, but obviously that means very little at the start of anyone's career.
I think he'll be a star of the AFL, Brownlow...maybe..long way off yet though. If he is half as good as his old man, then he will be 95% better than any current AFL footballer running around circa 2003.
 

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Hopefully he will get enough gametime to let the football do the talking.
However we know that a fit and firing Ebert will never ever get a game before a 3/4 fit Kingsley and co.
Even less than 3/4 fit for finals.
 

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No need to talk Brett Ebert up as his footy will do the talking.

I don't share your optimism about Brett winning a Brownlow in 2004, however if you want to throw some money my way I will give you what ever odds you like. :D
 

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Originally posted by Porthos
Brett is very lucky that Nick has left, because Choco's Plan A only has room for one unaccountable midfielder. Well, in the centre square anyway. Hopefully he'll do OK.
Thats the common ground between the crows and power, neither has a plan b or any other, just a plan A !!!!
 

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Originally posted by jc67
You port guys need to straiten out a lot of people on the main board.
Most think that Stevens is a big loss for you, and the common idea is that Franco is to old and wont recover (in the head) from his knee.
They have absolutly NFI about young brett, who he is, how much better than stevens he will be, how long he will play for, how old he is , that he's bagged a Magery, or that he will proberbly be port's first brownlow winner, if he's given a chance next year he will cut up all that take him on.
None of the Vics on the main board will give any respect to anyone who has made it in the SANFL, their tired old line of "Mickey Mouse League" will just come out again. And they have no regard for the name Ebert, even though Russell played every game of the one season he was at North.

Iv'e got $300.00 on him for next years charlie at 200 to 1.
Are you mad? I've got faith in him but quantity as well as quality is needed to win a Brownlow. He'll be lucky to play 10 half games. If he gets a few starts he might snag a vote somewhere.

I'm not a port fan by any stretch (my kids are though) but every south aussie expects young Ebert to become the most accomplished afl footballer ever to come out of SA.
And these POMPUS VICTORIAN W@NKERS HAVE NO FU(KING IDEA!
you guys should tell them now so you can rub it in after next season.
Premierships rub it in. Whether Ebert is in the first we get ot not doesn't matter.
 

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Re: Re: Ebert

Originally posted by mic59
Are you mad? I've got faith in him but quantity as well as quality is needed to win a Brownlow. He'll be lucky to play 10 half games. If he gets a few starts he might snag a vote somewhere.
If he does ok in the wizard cup Chocko will play him from the start of the season.
and my 300 wins $15,000, so its worth a shot.

Imagine what people would be saying if he wasnt listed and was availabe in this years draft!!!! move over cooney!!
 

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Here's a sad, but true, story straight from the inner sanctum at Alberton.

Williams does not rate Brett Ebert very highly and Phil Walsh rates his disposal as poor. If you all knew this then I apologise, but if you were all hoping for a fair run for 'young Brett'.......think again.
I also have heard that many of our assistants are frustrated by the apparent lack of consideration given to them by the senior coach and his moron backup. Only recently we had to change dieticians because his job was compromised by Williams' superior knowledge on the subject.

This year is on track for disaster!
 
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Originally posted by Santos L Helper
Here's a sad, but true, story straight from the inner sanctum at Alberton.

Williams does not rate Brett Ebert very highly and Phil Walsh rates his disposal as poor. If you all knew this then I apologise, but if you were all hoping for a fair run for 'young Brett'.......think again.
I also have heard that many of our assistants are frustrated by the apparent lack of consideration given to them by the senior coach and his moron backup. Only recently we had to change dieticians because his job was compromised by Williams' superior knowledge on the subject.

This year is on track for disaster!
It's the no lose year. Anything less than a GF and that's the end of Team Choco, anything more and I guess he's vindicated and we're all happy.

And disaster brings early draft picks as its reward! ;)

An interesting sidelight is that Russell Ebert was highly critical of Camp Deliverance in Middle Earth, especially the dangers placed on the players for questionable benefit. That's a couple of times Russell hasn't towed the party line, being critical of Brett's non selection in the Power side after his Magarey win. Seems the great man is getting a bit narked by some of the goings on ....
 

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In that case he's a tennis dad. For the sake of his kid and the sake of the PAFC, he should get on board or at the very least shut up. Even if he's right. Especially if he's right.
 

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Given that Ebert may have a few shortcomings, he should still be given a run in the team if for tradition purposes only. Here we have our first player who was selected under the father-son rule, son of arguably(with very little arguement) Port Adelaides' finest player and a Magarey medallist. The team would lift with just him on the bench.
 
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Originally posted by Sandola
In that case he's a tennis dad. For the sake of his kid and the sake of the PAFC, he should get on board or at the very least shut up. Even if he's right. Especially if he's right.
I'd classify a tennis dad as a non achiever who lives his successes vicariously thru his son's (or daughter's in the tennis case) achievements. I don't think Russell can be categorised that way. He's also a paid employee of the PAFC and a media commentator so he will be asked his views and, being Russell, he will give them. Fair enough and maybe what we need is some challenging of Williams's ideas from within.

But yes he has used Brett as the vehicle for both of his public criticisms of Port in recent times. While I can appreciate his being a protective father (and he has seen his sons carry some untoward attention because of the Ebert name) I also see how it could become difficult for Brett to have Russell advocating for him too much.

I don't think he should shut up, but maybe he should couch his thoughts a little more generally ...
 
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That's not a bad idea ... back in the early stages of Chad and Kanes' time before they established themselves in the Port side (I guess you'd call Kane established by now) crowie supporters would be regularly ringing up 5AA saying how it wasn't fair that they weren't getting regular games and then spouting the self generated rumours that they'd heard that Chad/Kane (insert name here) wanted to join the crows. Graham always maintained a public line that Port was a strong team to break into and you weren't just handed an AFL berth. And he was frustrated by the rumoured switch of clubs, he used to treat those callers quite curtly.
 

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I just bloody hope that Williams gives Ebert (and a few others) every chance to prove himself and then develop.
NOT the Guerra treatment, but proper gametime early in the new year.

Had Williams been Francou's coach when he started up, and given him the Guerra treatment, he would have been lost to the AFL by now.
This year Williams MUST improve in this respect, otherwise a lot more people (including myself) will join the chorus.
It is his final chance to show something. By that I do not mean a GF win, nor a GF appearance.
Mainly show that:
1...He will give young players a chance to develop and not just use them as fill ins for favorite pets irrespective of how good or bad they play.
The way he searches for players from other Clubs. :mad:
HEY the grass is not always greener on the other side. Give your younger players a chance to develop properly.

2...Show some confidence in, and respect to his players. Stevens Vs the Swans smelled of total lack of respect to the player.
Focusing on not losing rather than winning in finals also shows lack of respect to his players.

If he improves in these areas, then he stays. Coming first or sixteenth doesn't matter really as a lot of things out of his control can influence the final outcome.
 
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All being well, SOG should get a fair amount of time on the ground during the preseason games. I'd hope that if he puts in the performance we'd expect from him, he'll get a jumper for round 1. What happens from there is anyone's guess........

I can't wait to see SOG and Sal on the park next year. The fact that Primus and Francou should both also be on the park, will help those kids no end as well.

Choco took his time blooding Josh Carr, and it's paid handsome dividends I think. I hope these 2 kids do the same.
 

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Originally posted by Santos L Helper
Here's a sad, but true, story straight from the inner sanctum at Alberton.

Williams does not rate Brett Ebert very highly and Phil Walsh rates his disposal as poor. If you all knew this then I apologise, but if you were all hoping for a fair run for 'young Brett'.......think again.
For what its worth, Brett should be on the bench for our first Wizard Cup game and probably our first H&A game too.

I dont see how Williams couldnt rate him highly. He is our best youngster on our list. He gets more disposals than any of our other youngsters on our list. And poor disposal? Obviously Phil Walsh has lost the plot or something. He'd be one of the most precise kicks on our list. Him winning the Magarey was no fluke. When Brett was unleashed full time into the midfield in round 9ish he produced one of the best single seasons ive seen.

I would love Brett to play 22 games this year. Its his time to move up. Hes grown out of the pond size SANFL...his second half of the year has shown that and its time for him to be released into the bigger ocean of AFL football.

I have no confidence in Williams anymore and i fully expect Brett to be wasted this year in the SANFL and only play 7 or 8 games.
 
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