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The loyalty has gone out of footy it seems. With most people prepared to sell themselves to the highest bidder.

True, to some extent loyalty has gone....But really what percentage of players actually move around from club to club ONLY chasing the dollar?? People will change clubs from time to time for various reasons and money will be a part of it, but when it comes down to it MOST players are pretty loyal to their senior club of choice. I don't believe that a player is obliged to stay at the club where he played his juniors as that generally was a choice made by their parents, not them....
 
Who said 40pts? It maybe 35pts or whatever it takes to even the season up.
Greenvale under 40pts? Hakim, Jorgenson, Randello, Kuret, Sir, H.Pekes, Potter, O'Neil, Pati....Unlevel playing feilds cannot continue for the GOOD of the WHOLE league.
 
The info i've received is that ramsay is yet to sign his contract, hence the meeting with marbo park earlier last week. Maybe im mis informed. Turner was on the westy footy trip and apparently left the stars for personal reasons as well.
Mate go and stick your head in the bin,you know jack shit.Yes Turner does want to go back to Westy and I hope he had a great trip,but the fact is that he has sign at the Stars but Douttas will let him go for a small small fee.:D
 

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Who said 40pts? It maybe 35pts or whatever it takes to even the season up.
Greenvale under 40pts? Hakim, Jorgenson, Randello, Kuret, Sir, H.Pekes, Potter, O'Neil, Pati....Unlevel playing feilds cannot continue for the GOOD of the WHOLE league.

HAKIM??? He's from amateurs. Jorgenson, Randello and Kuret all less than 4 yrs in the VFL system and if still there in 2009 will be worth 2-3 points only. SIR is that long out of VFL/AFL it doesn't matter (and possibly retiring) H.Pekes didn't play VFL as far as I know?? Potter may be 4 yrs in VFL but don't think so, O'neil will have 2 yrs by 2009 and Paiti VFL seconds only and less than 4 yrs......... Can't be bothered doing the maths but it doesn't add up to that much.
So is your plan to lower the points until no one can have any good players?? Great idea. That's what D4 amateurs is for!!!!
 
HAKIM??? He's from amateurs. Jorgenson, Randello and Kuret all less than 4 yrs in the VFL system and if still there in 2009 will be worth 2-3 points only. SIR is that long out of VFL/AFL it doesn't matter (and possibly retiring) H.Pekes didn't play VFL as far as I know?? Potter may be 4 yrs in VFL but don't think so, O'neil will have 2 yrs by 2009 and Paiti VFL seconds only and less than 4 yrs......... Can't be bothered doing the maths but it doesn't add up to that much.
So is your plan to lower the points until no one can have any good players?? Great idea. That's what D4 amateurs is for!!!!

there is also the fact that hakim played about 140 games of juniors at GV.

the new point systems will do nothing to curtail the top teams. Stathmore, Keilor, Greenvale, Oak Park and Doutta's have the best juniors and they are the teams domiated the comp for 10 years. I dont see how anything will change.

additionally the teams with the best lists at the time the system is brought in will benefit greatly, just like Hawthorn did when the salary cap came about.
 
HAKIM??? He's from amateurs. Jorgenson, Randello and Kuret all less than 4 yrs in the VFL system and if still there in 2009 will be worth 2-3 points only. SIR is that long out of VFL/AFL it doesn't matter (and possibly retiring) H.Pekes didn't play VFL as far as I know?? Potter may be 4 yrs in VFL but don't think so, O'neil will have 2 yrs by 2009 and Paiti VFL seconds only and less than 4 yrs......... Can't be bothered doing the maths but it doesn't add up to that much.
So is your plan to lower the points until no one can have any good players?? Great idea. That's what D4 amateurs is for!!!!

Hey ease up tiger some of us play D4 ammos ..... :thumbsdown:

Or at least D3??? ;)

Our points system is as follows.

Players that can mark, kick and handball = 4 points
Players that can mark and kick but not handball = 3 points (hello Colesy!)
Players that can kick but not mark or handball = 2 points
Players that can do nothing but complain = 1 point

Players who can use both feet and or hands should not be in D4 ammos so should therefore not count for anything!

Ex AFL or VFL players returning to this standard should have more clearly explained to them the standard and be encouraged to leave, take their points and head of to Strathmore or Greenvale where they belong! :thumbsu:
 
Mate go and stick your head in the bin,you know jack shit.Yes Turner does want to go back to Westy and I hope he had a great trip,but the fact is that he has sign at the Stars but Douttas will let him go for a small small fee.:D

Well, Well ,Well ....Turner has gone back to Westy,Joey And ricky have not signed yet and their is more going on at the stars camp than you think..word is that they have spoken to over 10 players to come over to the stars and have only signed 1 player....seems like not a happy camp so far !!!!!!!!!
Something just not right !!!!!!! also words is that the three above not happy with the way the club is going with the coaching staff.....very very very on the ball now...
 
At this point Keilor have lost Buttigieg, Towner, Whichello, Lance Picioane, Leigh Picioane, Porter, Gluschenko, Cooper, Knezevic, Condos, Bailey, James and Zucco. That is half of their senior team. What is happening down there? How will Keilor go next year???
 
At this point Keilor have lost Buttigieg, Towner, Whichello, Lance Picioane, Leigh Picioane, Porter, Gluschenko, Cooper, Knezevic, Condos, Bailey, James and Zucco. That is half of their senior team. What is happening down there? How will Keilor go next year???


Are both Picioanes heading back to Boort???
 
At this point Keilor have lost Buttigieg, Towner, Whichello, Lance Picioane, Leigh Picioane, Porter, Gluschenko, Cooper, Knezevic, Condos, Bailey, James and Zucco. That is half of their senior team. What is happening down there? How will Keilor go next year???
In the last week i have personally spoken to most of these guys and the only definates are Condos , Towner and Butters, All the others have said they are keen to stay at keilor including the Picione brothers, there are two who may go else where in Whichello and Bailey , Whichello while signing at Maribyrnong is starting to have second thoughts,and Bails has been approached by his old club Clatyton with darren Hulme at the helm, Porter has said he is going nowhere, Cooper has had other offers but wants to play with his mates, Knezevic is going no where, James is signed up and very keen,and Zucco came down to be with Zahra so he is certainly staying in the red white and blue , In saying that we have signed 3 players out of Irymple in the Sunraysia league who all played together in a flag in 06 up there, So stop fishing
 
HAKIM??? He's from amateurs. Jorgenson, Randello and Kuret all less than 4 yrs in the VFL system and if still there in 2009 will be worth 2-3 points only. SIR is that long out of VFL/AFL it doesn't matter (and possibly retiring) H.Pekes didn't play VFL as far as I know?? Potter may be 4 yrs in VFL but don't think so, O'neil will have 2 yrs by 2009 and Paiti VFL seconds only and less than 4 yrs......... Can't be bothered doing the maths but it doesn't add up to that much.
So is your plan to lower the points until no one can have any good players?? Great idea. That's what D4 amateurs is for!!!!

Bomber44 your credability is sh!t. You are a fool mate. H.Pekes did not play VFL?? Your got to be kidding yourself. Do you know anything about football or players that you are commenting on?

When you have found out the correct information then post a comment on this site about players other then that. You know Jack SH!T !!!

H.Pekes and R.Pekes both played VFL you Loser !!
 
In the last week i have personally spoken to most of these guys and the only definates are Condos , Towner and Butters, All the others have said they are keen to stay at keilor including the Picione brothers, there are two who may go else where in Whichello and Bailey , Whichello while signing at Maribyrnong is starting to have second thoughts,and Bails has been approached by his old club Clatyton with darren Hulme at the helm, Porter has said he is going nowhere, Cooper has had other offers but wants to play with his mates, Knezevic is going no where, James is signed up and very keen,and Zucco came down to be with Zahra so he is certainly staying in the red white and blue , In saying that we have signed 3 players out of Irymple in the Sunraysia league who all played together in a flag in 06 up there, So stop fishing

Band O Borther i hope your right mate. My last count of players leaving or wanting to leave was at 23.

I can go through names with you but I'd rather not as players make there own choices.

The fact of the matter is if Keilor do not get a coach soon or start paying there players the right amount of money you will loose a lot of the quality and class you have in the Red White & Blue.

This year Keilor will need to make changes and getting a good the Coach and the Coin they pay are the big issues.
 

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New to thread, got a mate who was telling me he was thinking of playing with Mooney Valley.
I was wondering what is the standard like? i play at RDFL. This is not a post designed to start an arguement of wat is better i was just wanting to know how it compares and how Mooney Valley has gone in the last few years.
 
Bomber44 your credability is sh!t. You are a fool mate. H.Pekes did not play VFL?? Your got to be kidding yourself. Do you know anything about football or players that you are commenting on?

When you have found out the correct information then post a comment on this site about players other then that. You know Jack SH!T !!!

H.Pekes and R.Pekes both played VFL you Loser !!

Time for the big blue pill and a lie down dogsquad... As you may have noticed I put a question mark after that comment indicating that I wasn't sure.... This is a forum for comment and opinion so get over it! I thought it was too much to ask that people like yourself could add a comment without resorting to name calling like a little child..... You have no idea of my credentials.....
 
Band O Borther i hope your right mate. My last count of players leaving or wanting to leave was at 23.

I can go through names with you but I'd rather not as players make there own choices.

The fact of the matter is if Keilor do not get a coach soon or start paying there players the right amount of money you will loose a lot of the quality and class you have in the Red White & Blue.

This year Keilor will need to make changes and getting a good the Coach and the Coin they pay are the big issues.
A coach will be named this week and then we will sign all these guys up without doubt, The leadership group is working behind the scenes doing an enormous amount of work to enable a successful year.
 
B.O.B..Any ideas as to who may get it..Nothing coming out of KFC other than those Crispy Strips I love so much.

Gotta love BF more false rumours than 'New Weekly'....Enjoy reading it though good for a laugh
 
New to thread, got a mate who was telling me he was thinking of playing with Mooney Valley.
I was wondering what is the standard like? i play at RDFL. This is not a post designed to start an arguement of wat is better i was just wanting to know how it compares and how Mooney Valley has gone in the last few years.
Valley are in deep touble......no money ,no good players.will be lucky to win a few games nexy year.I hear Robert Lamberti will be their next year to help out,but will not be playing.this is a good thing as he is a life member of the club and has been playing in the bush for the last 5 years.Should give the club a great lift.
 
I would say Lamberti has been in the bush for about 8 years with a brief stint at Douttas in between and Blast off if you think he is going back to the Valley's you have got rocks in your head as i heard he is looking at coaching/playing superfools with The Drebster as his assistant.What an awesome combo in the middle,Bernie and Lambers ;) and imagine after the game at Nova they would be like Crockett and Tubbs from Miami Vice :D

WAXY
 

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A coach will be named this week and then we will sign all these guys up without doubt, The leadership group is working behind the scenes doing an enormous amount of work to enable a successful year.

the leadership group, what leadership group, haven't they all gone to cash up elsewhere.
 
there is also the fact that hakim played about 140 games of juniors at GV.

the new point systems will do nothing to curtail the top teams. Stathmore, Keilor, Greenvale, Oak Park and Doutta's have the best juniors and they are the teams domiated the comp for 10 years. I dont see how anything will change.

additionally the teams with the best lists at the time the system is brought in will benefit greatly, just like Hawthorn did when the salary cap came about.
Having the best juniors is the way to go but having said that if the senior team is made up of imports where do the boys who come out of the u/18's play, 2nd's or another club. I know there are boys from Greenvale's u/18's grand final team who have already left and the talk is there could be few more go with them.
 
B.O.B..Any ideas as to who may get it..Nothing coming out of KFC other than those Crispy Strips I love so much.

Gotta love BF more false rumours than 'New Weekly'....Enjoy reading it though good for a laugh
Have heard a coach will be named this week and apparently bringing players with AFL experience, This has come from a source not too close to the situation, so therefore do not know exactly who but i suppose we will know within the week, Alot of the boys were down at the club today for a going away party and all seemed very positive they are all excited about a new start with a new coach ,
 
Fraser , Marcy ,James and Zahra all leaders all staying.

OK, if you say there leaders that's fine, can all play but remember that doesn't necessarily make them leaders. Sounds like the normally strong on and off the field Keilor football club is in a little bit of strife at the minute, which is kinda pleasant to hear.
 
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