EDFL Premier Div 2019

[sierra]

Gee whiz Survey that’s a huge statement putting Ross T in the same sentence/group as McDonald. McDonald has played at the highest level and coached a VFL premiership at Werribee. You cannot put these 2 in the same category..
And your saying Ross T is equal or a better coach than McGuane, Potter, Morrell etc..

I agree Avondale could do with some extra help.. Glenroy did have good junior numbers a few years back (under 18s played in a GF) but appear to have lost numbers..Agree promoted clubs need some extra points in there first couple of years up.

The league (as per other leagues) having issues with under 18/19s.

Why is this year any different, point system "is what it is" and clubs need to deal with it. EDS, Glenroy and Craigieburn have had to deal with it and managed their way with 2 of 3 still in Premier

 

[Stax on the mill]

Why is this year any different, point system "is what it is" and clubs need to deal with it. EDS, Glenroy and Craigieburn have had to deal with it and managed their way with 2 of 3 still in Premier

I totally agree. Don’t see why any team, or teams for that matter in Premier or division 1 should be allocated an artificial advantage over other teams. That advantage would potentially enable them to remain in the top division when they don’t really deserve to.

Could then mean another struggling club without the extra points handout would get demoted instead. Hardly fair on the other clubs battling to avoid relegation. I’d be mighty pissed off if my club got demoted because they finished below another club who had been gifted more player points.

Might work ok in the bottom division, or in country leagues where there is only 1 division. But certainly not in the top division or 2nd division of a 3 tier comp.

 

[Aucklander]

Hisham Kerbatieh linking with AH.

 

[Tragic 1]

Hisham Kerbatieh linking with AH.

The only problem with that is you get his old man with him

 

[Turbos mail]

Follow a couple clubs in the competition because of mates families playing at them. I , for one could never be convinced that any club should have such an advantage.
Galea , Rose , Armfield , Wood and McDonald , a preliminary final 3 years ago.
If they aren’t able to compete in Premier under the same rules as everyone else maybe a visit to Div 1 is warranted.

I get your point and yes it’s valid, however they didn’t all play in the same side.

 

[Turbos mail]

I totally agree. Don’t see why any team, or teams for that matter in Premier or division 1 should be allocated an artificial advantage over other teams. That advantage would potentially enable them to remain in the top division when they don’t really deserve to.

Could then mean another struggling club without the extra points handout would get demoted instead. Hardly fair on the other clubs battling to avoid relegation. I’d be mighty pissed off if my club got demoted because they finished below another club who had been gifted more player points.

Might work ok in the bottom division, or in country leagues where there is only 1 division. But certainly not in the top division or 2nd division of a 3 tier comp.

I do understand your views and agree with you. I’m also aware Avondale we’re paying good coin for their playing list, so it’s not related to just points however when the points system was introduced it always favoured the clubs with strong junior numbers and in particular clubs with strong 17s/19s so a club like Avondale was always going to fall behind IMO. Driving your car through an area like Avondale Heights is a lot different than driving through say Aberfeldie, Strathmore, Keilor, Greenvale etc.. Always going to be a struggle to have that younger group coming through.
Anyway we all have different views on this and I’ve done it to death..

 

[Orbit]

I agree that Avondale and newly promoted deserve more points. Avondale were always going to be hit hard and it is not fair

So Flipper you would be happy with Aberfeldie being beaten in a Grand Final by a club with more points? or a club being relegated on percentage from a club who had more points ?

 

[Stax on the mill]

I do understand your views and agree with you. I’m also aware Avondale we’re paying good coin for their playing list, so it’s not related to just points however when the points system was introduced it always favoured the clubs with strong junior numbers and in particular clubs with strong 17s/19s so a club like Avondale was always going to fall behind IMO. Driving your car through an area like Avondale Heights is a lot different than driving through say Aberfeldie, Strathmore, Keilor, Greenvale etc.. Always going to be a struggle to have that younger group coming through.
Anyway we all have different views on this and I’ve done it to death..

Unfortunately Turbo, changing population demographics are a fact of life. I can’t see the integrity in a system where you would artificially give a struggling club an advantage over other clubs in the top grade, which may then enable that club to remain in the top grade, and one of the other clubs potentially gets relegated.

All very well giving Avondale a leg up by allocating more player points. However in doing so you are disadvantaging Glenroy, EDS, APW, and maybe a few more clubs. As a previous poster said, perhaps Avondale needs to drop a grade. After all, it’s not as if they are struggling down the bottom of division 2.

 

[Flipperfeldie]

So Flipper you would be happy with Aberfeldie being beaten in a Grand Final by a club with more points? or a club being relegated on percentage from a club who had more points ?

From outset there should’ve been recognition that points system takes time for some clubs due to lack of ability to attract juniors.

Abers Douttas marby stratty Jets pacco keilor so on all have major locational advantages compared to avondale tulla and others

After time the points system should gradually become uniform except for maybe promoted team. That would be fair to give time to adapt. Instead Avondale have got no chance

 

[Turbos mail]

Unfortunately Turbo, changing population demographics are a fact of life. I can’t see the integrity in a system where you would artificially give a struggling club an advantage over other clubs in the top grade, which may then enable that club to remain in the top grade, and one of the other clubs potentially gets relegated.

All very well giving Avondale a leg up by allocating more player points. However in doing so you are disadvantaging Glenroy, EDS, APW, and maybe a few more clubs. As a previous poster said, perhaps Avondale needs to drop a grade. After all, it’s not as if they are struggling down the bottom of division 2.

I’m only suggesting an extra allocation of 3-4 points which means 1 extra player.

EDS are a strong club which have a reasonable area to draw from. I also think APW have a decent sized area to draw from. Glenroy is a difficult one but I believe there area is enough kids to draw from considering Hadfield are now struggling to field juniors. Have Coburg Districts overtaken them with regards to juniors?? If so then we’re Glenroy sleeping as they have better facilities and stronger senior teams so should have more volunteers and money to gather up assistance.. I think now that Glenroy are in premier and seem to be changing the culture off field that now is the time to build a decent base..Would a parent prefer to take his child to the footy on Saturday and watch premier or div2. It’s an easier choice..

 

[Orbit]

From outset there should’ve been recognition that points system takes time for some clubs due to lack of ability to attract juniors.

Abers Douttas marby stratty Jets pacco keilor so on all have major locational advantages compared to avondale tulla and others

After time the points system should gradually become uniform except for maybe promoted team. That would be fair to give time to adapt. Instead Avondale have got no chance

3 years ago or was it 4 years, AH spent 300k+ and only injuries prevented them from winning a premiership. That spend allowed them to recruit from other EDFL clubs....no money spent on a sustainable junior program. They then self destruct on the back of the ego of a small man and a Ponzi scheme and the EDFL should have compassion? Many clubs have battled against the odds and survived and prospered. It’s called character building and club defining. The EDFL have 3 divisions, a clubs decisions will determine what division they play in.

 

[Turbos mail]

3 years ago or was it 4 years, AH spent 300k+ and only injuries prevented them from winning a premiership. That spend allowed them to recruit from other EDFL clubs....no money spent on a sustainable junior program. They then self destruct on the back of the ego of a small man and a Ponzi scheme and the EDFL should have compassion? Many clubs have battled against the odds and survived and prospered. It’s called character building and club defining. The EDFL have 3 divisions, a clubs decisions will determine what division they play in.

Another good post which is true. However not sure who they recruited from other EDFL clubs. The recruiting of Rose & Galea got them to where they went ladder wise plus one of the best captains in the EDFL in “Dogga” Cravino. Other than Cubilla at Abers, Cravino is one of the best on field leaders in this comp.

 

[Newatthis]

Hearing the Roys are looking to poach ex EDS brothers Anderson and a few others training there from Wangaratta. Heard they aren’t to keen on travel and want out of contracts. Interesting how it unfolds


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I'm confused by your post. You say some boys from Wangaratta are training at EDS but don't want to travel so are looking at going to the Roy's. Where are they travelling from to train at EDS and won't they still have to travel to train with the Roy's? As for the Anderson boys, I wasn't impressed the few times I saw them play.

 

[Newatthis]

Fair point regards to Ross,

Yeah mate , u/19 is a massive issue

I'm hearing EDS may not have a 19's side this year.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

The only problem with that is you get his old man with him

The Demir Dokic of local football

 

[chickenonachain]

Hisham Kerbatieh linking with AH.

Does someone on here know how many clubs this guy has played for? seems like every year he's at a new club juniors included

 

[Orbit]

Does someone on here know how many clubs this guy has played for? seems like every year he's at a new club juniors included

Another good post which is true. However not sure who they recruited from other EDFL clubs. The recruiting of Rose & Galea got them to where they went ladder wise plus one of the best captains in the EDFL in “Dogga” Cravino. Other than Cubilla at Abers, Cravino is one of the best on field leaders in this comp.

I think you will find they recruited AW three best players, a ruckman and 2 key defenders.

 

[Tragic 1]

Does someone on here know how many clubs this guy has played for? seems like every year he's at a new club juniors included

Like I said, it might have something to do with his old man.Clubs soon realise he’s not worth the baggage he brings with him. The bloke is a deadset F@ckwit. Rumou has it that the kid was going to get drafted but the night before the draft the old man was ringing up recruiters pleading with them to draft him which put clubs off picking him up.

 

[Aucklander]

Jesus, starting to think it was a bad idea posting what was a pretty good pick up for AH.

How many clubs? Have never counted as especially the latter ones were merely for the sake of having a home club while Hish played TAC and VFL.

I think only Bruno Laguda out of a host of really good kids I watched growing up at VFL level. Pity.

Edit: Koolyn Briggs and Tyson Young too of course.

 

[Orbit]

Stumbled across the Pascoe Vale Hotel....EDFL Alumni.....Bernie Drebing, Paul Pascu, Peter Owens, Rex Smith, Ross Ewert, Mick Evans........they should re-name the place Fredricks!

 

[Aucklander]

I think Geoff and the team at AW should be reasonably happy. Some instances of sloppy decision making hurt today, but they mixed that in with some really slick ball movement too. Good first hit out for them overall I think.

 

[Tragic 1]

I think Geoff and the team at AW should be reasonably happy. Some instances of sloppy decision making hurt today, but they mixed that in with some really slick ball movement too. Good first hit out for them overall I think.

Who did they play?

 

[Aucklander]

Who did they play?

Wallan.

 

[Outbackhack37]

Wallan.

Any scores kept Mel?


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[Aucklander]

Any scores kept Mel?


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Wallan by a couple of goals mate.