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How bad was the top 40 players of the last ten years!
Whoever picked this squad clearly knows nothing about football.
How can u not have Eric Kuret, trav Jorgenson, Heath Ayres in that squad but have Brodie holland, Rohan Nanya, Michael tanner in that squad
 
Agree 100%, how about vetting it with someone who has actually seen the past 10 years of footy before sending it out, could not possibly miss Ayres if you had seen him play. Denis Bicer the other obvious miss. De Sousa obviously a handy player but FFS he played most of his footy on B grade.
 
the horse whisper said:
How bad was the top 40 players of the last ten years!
Whoever picked this squad clearly knows nothing about football.
How can u not have Eric Kuret, trav Jorgenson, Heath Ayres in that squad but have Brodie holland, Rohan Nanya, Michael tanner in that squad
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Totally agree re Kuret, Jorgensen, Ayres and Bicer. They would be in any 22 that I would select over the past 15 years. I initially thought that their omission may have been due to not having played in the EDFL for past 5-6 years. However you could say the same about a few of the other inclusions.

Wonder what the selection criteria was. Notwithstanding a few glaring omissions, there are still some great players in the squad.
 
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Ayres & Bicer would be locks for top 10, and Jorgo would be close. Why go to the effort and miss such obvious inclusions, run it past a Mick Mcguane who i am sure would have picked it up and not made the edfl media department look like fools.
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Why bother doing it at all, they could do with spend time reviewing there processes for match days instead of this rubbish


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Interesting article, with Sunbury Kangaroos, East Sunbury already in, Rupertswood seeming likely to join must be only a matter of time before Sunbury Lions join. After seeing what Sunbury Kangaroos did to Div 2, would not surprise if Lions were pushed straight into Premier Division where they should be competitive from the start.
 
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Interesting article, with Sunbury Kangaroos, East Sunbury already in, Rupertswood seeming likely to join must be only a matter of time before Sunbury Lions join. After seeing what Sunbury Kangaroos did to Div 2, would not surprise if Lions were pushed straight into Premier Division where they should be competitive from the start.
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I think you’ll find that the BFL will bend over backwards to keep them
 
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I think you’ll find that the BFL will bend over backwards to keep them
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No doubt they would want to retain them, however location wise it simply makes no sense for Sunbury to play in Ballarat when every EDFL team would be within 20 minutes of Sunbury. It wont be long before they would start losing local players who dont want to do the travel and have the option of moving to Kangaroos or Rupertswood to play in a superior competition, that is closer to home.

The same will go for Sponsors, Lions have always been the premier team in Sunbury however would not be long before they move to a Rupertswood who has the junior program and financial backing to be a serious premier standard team.

It also seems like the EDFL has been aggressive in bringing in the Sunbury teams, and I think if they were to dangle the option to come straight into Premier division that the club would jump at it.
 
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No doubt they would want to retain them, however location wise it simply makes no sense for Sunbury to play in Ballarat when every EDFL team would be within 20 minutes of Sunbury. It wont be long before they would start losing local players who dont want to do the travel and have the option of moving to Kangaroos or Rupertswood to play in a superior competition, that is closer to home.

The same will go for Sponsors, Lions have always been the premier team in Sunbury however would not be long before they move to a Rupertswood who has the junior program and financial backing to be a serious premier standard team.

It also seems like the EDFL has been aggressive in bringing in the Sunbury teams, and I think if they were to dangle the option to come straight into Premier division that the club would jump at it.
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Totally agree, but I have had some inner dealings with them albeit a few seasons back and they are some of the biggest pig headed people and would look at going to the edfl as a horrendous step back.

Saying that though if they did happen to lose that part of the inner circle and got a new group in they may be swayed in their thinking and see the move to the edfl as s better opportunity for them.
 
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No doubt they would want to retain them, however location wise it simply makes no sense for Sunbury to play in Ballarat when every EDFL team would be within 20 minutes of Sunbury. It wont be long before they would start losing local players who dont want to do the travel and have the option of moving to Kangaroos or Rupertswood to play in a superior competition, that is closer to home.

The same will go for Sponsors, Lions have always been the premier team in Sunbury however would not be long before they move to a Rupertswood who has the junior program and financial backing to be a serious premier standard team.

It also seems like the EDFL has been aggressive in bringing in the Sunbury teams, and I think if they were to dangle the option to come straight into Premier division that the club would jump at it.
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BFL - Play at superior venues(grounds) than EDFL. Look at Abers, DS, Smore, APW, Marby Park - Sub standard at Best
BFL - Netball - Allows the hole club to be involved. EDFL still very much set up for "The Boy's Club" and has become boring due to the same 4 or 5 clubs playing in finals over the past 10 years
Standard of Footy - There is always an argument there

Everyone hear this loud and clear - No-One outside the EDFL gives a Stuff about the EDFL. So any thought you may have that out-side comps or clubs think that the EDFL are a superior Competition is just incorrect.
 
Lions are unlikely to shift barring a barring a significant change at club & league level.
In addition to the points noted above by Bangfrom50 - Sunbury is at its core, a country footy club, rock up on a Saturday arvo and the contrast with the EDFL is quite stark - even down to the type of businesses that sponsor them.
They'd have to double their budget in order to have a comparable amount of success as in the BFL, where the competition is much more even and they're always a contender.
With ongoing discussions surrounding a larger scale restructuring of competitions, I see it being far more likely that a new competition is formed tbh
 

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BFL - Play at superior venues(grounds) than EDFL. Look at Abers, DS, Smore, APW, Marby Park - Sub standard at Best
BFL - Netball - Allows the hole club to be involved. EDFL still very much set up for "The Boy's Club" and has become boring due to the same 4 or 5 clubs playing in finals over the past 10 years
Standard of Footy - There is always an argument there

Everyone hear this loud and clear - No-One outside the EDFL gives a Stuff about the EDFL. So any thought you may have that out-side comps or clubs think that the EDFL are a superior Competition is just incorrect.
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Interesting statement "Everyone hear this loud and clear - No-One outside the EDFL gives a Stuff about the EDFL."
Sunbury Kangaroos did
East Sunbury did
Burnside Heights did
Jacana did
Craigieburn did
Ascot Vale did
St Albans have
Rupertswood have
Diggers Rest have
Interesting statement Bang
 
Potato Chops said:
Interesting statement "Everyone hear this loud and clear - No-One outside the EDFL gives a Stuff about the EDFL."
Sunbury Kangaroos did
East Sunbury did
Burnside Heights did
Jacana did
Craigieburn did
Ascot Vale did
St Albans have
Rupertswood have
Diggers Rest have
Interesting statement Bang
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It's disingenuous to include club's that aren't in the competition or even committed to shifting across.
Of the club's noted that have made the jump though, how many have really grown as expected or even hoped?
I'd suggest that club's take stock of this as the grass isn't always greener, in some cases sticking where they are may be logical as the murmurings of wholesale restructuring have been growing over recent years & moving only to have to move again in a year or two could be risky.
Ultimately, it'll be interesting to see what eventuate.
 
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BFL - Play at superior venues(grounds) than EDFL. Look at Abers, DS, Smore, APW, Marby Park - Sub standard at Best
BFL - Netball - Allows the hole club to be involved. EDFL still very much set up for "The Boy's Club" and has become boring due to the same 4 or 5 clubs playing in finals over the past 10 years
Standard of Footy - There is always an argument there

Everyone hear this loud and clear - No-One outside the EDFL gives a Stuff about the EDFL. So any thought you may have that out-side comps or clubs think that the EDFL are a superior Competition is just incorrect.
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Point 1 - That is an undeniable fact, the EDFL facilities and venues besides Keilor & Greenvale are atrocious.
Point 2 - I am no longer involved in EDFL, moved bayside so now follow my local VAFA club but thought the EDFL was bringing in netball.
Point 3 - My argument was more about location and how much more desirable this would be to parents and families, however i dont think there is too many that would disagree that the standard of EDFL Premier football would be a higher standard than BFL, its also equally important that the Premier u19s would be significantly higher and that the players in Sunbury who are wanting to play at Calder would benefit playing against other kids in the Calder zone.
 
Potato Chops said:
Interesting statement "Everyone hear this loud and clear - No-One outside the EDFL gives a Stuff about the EDFL."
Sunbury Kangaroos did
East Sunbury did
Burnside Heights did
Jacana did
Craigieburn did
Ascot Vale did
St Albans have
Rupertswood have
Diggers Rest have
Interesting statement Bang
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How many of those are from the BFL? = None
Reason
Sunbury Kangaroos - Location Juniors less travel
East Sunbury - New Club - see above
Burnside Heights - See above
Jacana - That was 20 years ago - Location Juniors less travel(didn't quite work out)
Craigieburn - See above but has worked for them
Ascot Vale - Restarting - Location Juniors less travel
St Albans - Dis-enchanted with WRFL - Location Juniors less travel, sick of having to go to Werribee every 2nd week
Rupertswood - We'll see but if they do will be based on --- Location Juniors less travel
Diggers Rest - See above

My point is no-one sees EDFL as a superior Senior Competition... I am not having a go at anyone here , we all focus on our own club and competition, everyone in any comp is the same. My point is it looks as though many involved in the EDFL have a misconception that other comps see the EDFL as superior. Nothing could be further from the truth
 
bangfrom50 said:
My point is no-one sees EDFL as a superior Senior Competition... I am not having a go at anyone here , we all focus on our own club and competition, everyone in any comp is the same. My point is it looks as though many involved in the EDFL have a misconception that other comps see the EDFL as superior. Nothing could be further from the truth
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It's the strongest suburban comp in Victoria at the moment mate. End of story. Not claiming this will always be the case.

The EFL was the strongest a few years back.

It will change again.
 
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