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Where is Luke Blackwell meant to play? or anyone that has moved interstate for work?[/QUOTE]
I'd imagine who ever could fit in his asking price. Clubs would then need to contend with whether they could fit him in points wise. I'd imagine he may get a wider variety of suitors. In the words of Aleksandr Orlov, "simples" my friend.
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Thanks Turbo, pretty astute summary from where I sit.
I will add that I expect Keilor to round out the Top 4 ahead of Avondale and Marby
As for Strathmore, I think it is a combination of issues.
It looked on paper that they covered most of their losses however we are talking a pretty big turnover of players - as well as experience - never mind the talent. Off the top of my head they are without Mazzeo & R Little (both 4 time premiership players I think) Douglas, Lyons, T Grima, Heppell and Jones. As well Horne is courageously playing under duress IMO. May be others I missed?
Sikora, Potter, Mitchell & Wilson go a way to covering some losses but perhaps haven’t had the desired effect. Having about 7 ‘regular’ seniors playing in the 2s last week raised a few eyebrows. In my opinion Lyon is the one they miss most as they appear a couple of gun mids short at the moment.
On the positive side, the coach is one of the best in the business and has continued to blood local boys from the 2nds and U18s. He does have a challenge as the Seniors look a tad flat and in a rut! Irrespective, there are good things happening around the club and they will bounce back.
It is good to see Pacco this year and Avondale last year challenging.
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Hey there 'Star' I'm really interested in the reasons as to why you regard the current Strathmore coach as one of the best in the business! It would be fair to say at the moment that he would be regarded by most people in the industry as a 'money coach' as he has predominately only ever coached environments were the club in question would have rated in the top two for that particular season in outgoing total player payments so expectations would be that the club in question plays off in the Grand Final..
I believe this season has been and will be his greatest challenge to date as the club in question that he is coaching definitely doesn't rank amongst the top two in the competition for outgoing total player payments..
Lets see how he performs in these challenging circumstances!..
There definitely does seem to have been a tactical change in the clubs approach this season, maybe it has been forced through necessity, maybe they are preparing for the inevitable points system being in place in the very near future..
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Saw the game on the wknd and point was stated by strathmor people in the bar that they play kids this yr cause they preparing for points systme to come in next year and wanna have kids ready to go i dont know if i can believe this though because why would you recruit the way they did this year like sikora and potter may drop a point but will be max cause came from oppo club yeah
Clinic good coach seen many his games in WRFL deer park and thingh strati will still make finals and contend as will have all momentum
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they were in twos because didnt turn up to sunday session yeah so was discipline not form yeah
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Good observation on Strathmore "Star" and pretty accurate. Agree as Douglas and T Grima were very good for Strathmore. As your stated they did cover most of these but they are probably under performing. I reckon they are still paying out good money as per the other clubs, but as we all know they have a bright future due to their junior program.
They are probably a tall forward short ( to replace T Grima) and some pace through the midfield. I'm guessing they will find a young mid from there juniors but will need to recruit another tall forward next year.
Still dangerous on there day..
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this is interesting isnt oggo a move and shaker at strati
In other EDFL news out of yesterday's game. Greenvale Football Club could be losing their score up until just before 3 quarter when scores were 11.10 to Strathmores 5.5. It proceeded a melee that was sent onto supporters hill with plastic chairs flying with fists. The game was out of control and the umpires somehow red carded one Greenvale player, but in the moments of madness Greenvale replaced this player without any direction from the umpires who continued to let the play ...go. Strathmore called for a headcount which saw the scores wiped. Their only chance of winning the dour affair. The scores were wiped but when the umpires were reminded of the actual rules, the score was reinstated. What proceeded was a spirited performance by the Jets who came out in the final quarter and kicked 6 goals 10 behinds to Strathmore's 1 point which means the final result will be a win to the Jets regardless of the EDFL investigation. The result and the final quarter heroics highlight the 2015 demise of the Strathmore Football Club who at this stage are facing an uphill battle to even make the 4. Let alone defend their premiership.
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In other EDFL news out of yesterday's game. Greenvale Football Club could be losing their score up until just before 3 quarter when scores were 11.10 to Strathmores 5.5. It proceeded a melee that was sent onto supporters hill with plastic chairs flying with fists. The game was out of control and the umpires somehow red carded one Greenvale player, but in the moments of madness Greenvale replaced this player without any direction from the umpires who continued to let the play ...go. Strathmore called for a headcount which saw the scores wiped. Their only chance of winning the dour affair. The scores were wiped but when the umpires were reminded of the actual rules, the score was reinstated. What proceeded was a spirited performance by the Jets who came out in the final quarter and kicked 6 goals 10 behinds to Strathmore's 1 point which means the final result will be a win to the Jets regardless of the EDFL investigation. The result and the final quarter heroics highlight the 2015 demise of the Strathmore Football Club who at this stage are facing an uphill battle to even make the 4. Let alone defend their premiership.
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Local Footy ScoresNot sure where it says chairs were thrown and supporters were involved?
The fight entered the supporters hill. Plastic chairs were flying as the players entered the area where the chairs were.
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Local Footy ScoresThat's your interpretation of it Trent. Make what you want out of it. Chairs were flying and fists were thrown! Fact
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Local Footy ScoresMove on Trent. Fences may need to be mandatory around grounds from now on to prevent chairs from flying and fights breaking out into the crowd areas.
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Local Footy ScoresNot sure why we need to put an individual name to posts. We think you'll find credibility with all our posts! We deal with facts.
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Local Footy ScoresWe report facts! I don't think anyone there yesterday that wasn't bias or intoxicated would agree with that!
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Post on local footy faceie interesting
In other EDFL news out of yesterday's game. Greenvale Football Club could be losing their score up until just before 3 quarter when scores were 11.10 to Strathmores 5.5. It proceeded a melee that was sent onto supporters hill with plastic chairs flying with fists. The game was out of control and the umpires somehow red carded one Greenvale player, but in the moments of madness Greenvale replaced this player without any direction from the umpires who continued to let the play ...go. Strathmore called for a headcount which saw the scores wiped. Their only chance of winning the dour affair. The scores were wiped but when the umpires were reminded of the actual rules, the score was reinstated. What proceeded was a spirited performance by the Jets who came out in the final quarter and kicked 6 goals 10 behinds to Strathmore's 1 point which means the final result will be a win to the Jets regardless of the EDFL investigation. The result and the final quarter heroics highlight the 2015 demise of the Strathmore Football Club who at this stage are facing an uphill battle to even make the 4. Let alone defend their premiership.
In other EDFL news out of yesterday's game. Greenvale Football Club could be losing their score up until just before 3 quarter when scores were 11.10 to Strathmores 5.5. It proceeded a melee that was sent onto supporters hill with plastic chairs flying with fists. The game was out of control and the umpires somehow red carded one Greenvale player, but in the moments of madness Greenvale replaced this player without any direction from the umpires who continued to let the play ...go. Strathmore called for a headcount which saw the scores wiped. Their only chance of winning the dour affair. The scores were wiped but when the umpires were reminded of the actual rules, the score was reinstated. What proceeded was a spirited performance by the Jets who came out in the final quarter and kicked 6 goals 10 behinds to Strathmore's 1 point which means the final result will be a win to the Jets regardless of the EDFL investigation. The result and the final quarter heroics highlight the 2015 demise of the Strathmore Football Club who at this stage are facing an uphill battle to even make the 4. Let alone defend their premiership.
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Having a look at their side from the weekend, if anything they're probably a bit top heavy. (Tagliabue, Sikora, Winter, Grima, Wilson, Potter and Stapleton)
I really don't want to open up that can of worms, suffice to see the amount of money Strathmore spends on players is one of the greatest fallacies on this forum. The problem is many posters believe they are in the know and spruik figures and this ends up being one of those rants. That said, the total number of AFL games played by the team that won the Premier Division flag last year was 4! And that player was a Strathmore junior! I think the natural train of thought is that any team succeeding must be spending stupid money but its not always the case. I do shudder to think how much clubs with multiple ex-AFL and VFL stars with many games at that level are paying.
Anyway, back to your question. I have a keen interest in coaching so my comments about Clinnick are purely on his coaching methods, ideologies, theories and practices. He is ridiculously well prepared and structured. Irrespective, the team needs to be able to carry out his teachings and as you said, this is a huge challenge with young and/or inexperienced players.
Wow. That's terrible objective 'reporting'
I can't say I saw any flying chairs BTW, perhaps the author attended the darts that afternoon?
From all reports the fight entered the 200 club hill where plastic chairs were set up. The fight entered the hill where the chairs were and although not involved in the fight it wasn't a good look. I can't remember to many senior grounds without fencing right the way around the ground.
It's looking pretty ugly for the EDFL who need to take a stance. Any news or updates from the EDFL on the matter?
It's looking pretty ugly for the EDFL who need to take a stance. Any news or updates from the EDFL on the matter?
Wow. That's terrible objective 'reporting'
I can't say I saw any flying chairs BTW, perhaps the author attended the darts that afternoon?
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As mentioned bit of talk about Strathmore on this forum but it's mostly been respectable and they are the 2014 premiers. Yes you are correct, but I think they need a "quality" tall forward. Winter and Little are very good but really need another who can kick regular goals (similar to Grima, Harvey in the past) as Winter is sometimes thrown into the ruck and Little doesn't play every game does he?
I suppose we are all surprised to see them outside the 4 and on the end of some heavy losses that's all.,
Agree it was a bad look. Especially with young kids being so close to it. Agree, there needs to be fencing right around (although difficult in that the 'second line' (or fence line) goes up to the creek fence.
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I agree the area around the creek side should be roped off. I also don't think the chairs in that area are a good idea. Maybe best to stand or build a small seating area there. From memory the seats are mainly for the elderly and/or ladies to sit. It's a good area for Strathmore supporters and creates a bit of atmosphere so just need to fix it up a bit. The problem is there is not a lot of room around Strathmore's ground as it's very tight.. Not the best viewing area from the rooms or in front of the rooms, hence why they probably go to the hill..
Interesting to see what they come up with or what the league has to say as ultimately the safety of players and spectators is paramount. The EDFL cannot afford any bad publicity..
The chairs are some distance from the fence line. I reckon they may need something more than a white painted line on the fence line which will act as a barrier of sorts. Even though it is easy to jump over, I think fans and especially kids would be more reluctant to go over it the same way they just walk over a painted line. Something like they use in the cricket (I quickly googled this) would help as it creates a barrier however small.
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Turbo , you seem to have a lot of suggestions - Build new rooms , new scoreboard, build a new seating area, get new recruits, rope off the area(do you think that's safe?)... You sound like one of those tools who likes to shoot his mouth off but is never prepared to actually do anything himself.
Strathmore have set up those seats in the same area for 4-5 years now without any issues, the fight was on the ground and spilt over into that area, all the supporters moved away quickly to ensure they were not involved. So your bright idea is to spend $20k-$40k and countless hours of volunteer people's time to build a seating area? Is that going to fix everything, is it? No doubt you will have an opinion on the next thing that comes up whatever that is and have a master plan to fix it!
And if you want my opinion - Fine both clubs for bringing the game into disrepute by engaging in a melee!!!
I think that is the biggest issue with modern day clubs, they spend their money in the pursuit of premierships rather than sustainable infrastructure that could ultimately deliver sustained off field success. The safety of kids in surrounding areas is in question, yet you raise the query over $20-40k? that is one or two less players for one season. I would love to see a club draw a line in the sand and build infrastructure that will last a lot longer than the new $40k recruit.
I would love to see the EDFL create a rule in regards to standard of facilities. Marby bought 2-3 flags and have nothing to show for it. Strathmore have won 4 flags and have the worst away change rooms in the league. Do not get me started on Aberfeldie. I understand it has alot to do with council funding, but when clubs spend the way they do upwards of $300k recklessly and have nothing to show for it; it speaks volumes about the club.
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I have a suggestion for you Bangfrom-wherever .....cut out these personal attacks on one of the better contributors to bigfooty that we've had for quite a while... Keyboard heroes such as yourself would be better off spending some time helping out at your own club ... If you still have one ..... I'm sure your tune would change if you met face to face....... Keep up the good work Turbo!!
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A nice segway then, Northern Saints are working on something that within a couple of years or so will be fantastic for the club, visiting club supporters and all the other clubs at Mutton Reserve and the local community. There is still much work to do, but if it can get others to see there vision then it will be a win for all.
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'shagshouli' said'.. "Where is Luke Blackwell meant to play? or anyone that has moved interstate for work?"[/QUOTE]
Players of Luke Blackwell's ability will still be extremely high on clubs wish lists as a possible recruit once 83% of all clubs are granted their wish, it will just come down to the club in questions strategic plan as to how they set up their list according to the rules and regulations of the points system within their competition as to how many players of Luke's ability will be on each clubs list..
Hence the talent will be spread across more clubs and more divisions..
For me, a different question needs to be asked!.. Where are the 'role players' meant to play?..
As many clubs in Premier divisions currently waste large amounts of their finances recruiting many players from outside of their very own club to do exactly that.. Become a 'role player'..
Once the points system comes in clubs will be forced to develop 'role players' from within their very own club.. Current 'role players' at these Premier division clubs that are being paid extremely well, will possibly be squeezed out within the point system, depending on the club in questions strategic plan, possibly to lower divisions or back to their very own home club..
Hence the talent will be spread across more clubs and more divisions..
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Spot on, it has everything to do with local government funding
Incidentally, construction of Strathmore's new change rooms begins very shortly
And I think it's closer to 10 flags
