Draft Watcher eDPS Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

 

[GUMBLETRON]

At some point there has to be some effort to restore some integrity to the competition, it just can't be about who the AFL determines is going to be gifted the opportunity through short-sighted errors of judgement. I think Crows should try and abuse the system as much as they can get away with (within the rules), because everyone else is. I think if we start to bail out strong clubs that have made bad calls then we might as well pack it in as a sport and it can just be a farce like Wrestling with predetermined outcomes for entertainment purposes only.

The AFL has never been interested in integrity, particularly when it runs counter to their capacity to control and profit from every facet of the game.

 

[briztoon]

The AFL has never been interested in integrity, particularly when it runs counter to their capacity to control and profit from every facet of the game.

Or ensure the dominance of the big V clubs.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Or ensure the dominance of the big V clubs.

Only because they bring the money in, and only so far as they continue to bring the money in. I don't know if you could call anything else Essendon or Carlton have produced over the past 20 years dominance.

 

[dazedjosh]

If clubs don't bid on Campbell and Mcinnes before Sydney and Pies first picks to keep them honest they are idiots. campbell is top 5 and Mcinness is top 10 so win win.

With Rampe and Hewett now done for the season as well as everyone else we're missing, Adelaide will have to bid on Campbell to do that to us because we're looking pretty solid for 17th

 

[briztoon]

Only because they bring the money in, and only so far as they continue to bring the money in. I don't know if you could call anything else Essendon or Carlton have produced over the past 20 years dominance.

And that goes to nature of an unequal competition on so many levels.

It’s a “National” competition to benefit the big Victorian teams.

 

[flipper83]

What are you thinking you might do with it.

You can tag me on your board if you discussed it there.

My only caveat would be, if you do something else with it, apart from trading up to pick 1, you’re likely sacrificing next years first round pick to pay off a draft deficit.

It's hard to get a read on the situation without knowing if lists will be cut and where Jamara gets a bid.
And few on our board are hoping we trade it for an established player. If we get something coming back and perhaps trade a future second we should be able to find a way to cover the points.
We could also look to trade this year's and next year's first for an early pick this year.
To be honest the most likely outcome is that we do trade it for more points but any trade there will also be dependent on how many live picks we take to the draft.

 

[king rising]

WAFL 7+ game this week?

 

[eDPS]

WAFL 7+ game this week?

West Perth vs East Fremantle. No juniors set to play in it though was hoping for a Chapman call up

Speaking of call ups Nathan O’Driscoll is set to make his League debut this week.

 

[Virgin Dog]

What are you thinking you might do with it.

You can tag me on your board if you discussed it there.

My only caveat would be, if you do something else with it, apart from trading up to pick 1, you’re likely sacrificing next years first round pick to pay off a draft deficit.

One current theory is that we have a couple players likely to be traded this year, which will bring in points. Don't think we've been linked to anyone so have no idea what happens with our 1st, but McLean is being chased by the Hawks, and Schache by the Pies, according to a few word of mouth sources (ITKs, people IRL, etc.). Between the two of them, plus our two thirds we already hold, we'd have enough points to match a bid without our 1st rounder. Of course, if either remains or if any trades involve a player back our way, then it gets more complicated.

Either way, I highly doubt the Dogs will factor into the top end of this draft other than JUH. I can imagine Port or Collingwood could be interested in our first pick given it should come before their FS/NGA kids

 

[briztoon]

One current theory is that we have a couple players likely to be traded this year, which will bring in points. Don't think we've been linked to anyone so have no idea what happens with our 1st, but McLean is being chased by the Hawks, and Schache by the Pies, according to a few word of mouth sources (ITKs, people IRL, etc.). Between the two of them, plus our two thirds we already hold, we'd have enough points to match a bid without our 1st rounder. Of course, if either remains or if any trades involve a player back our way, then it gets more complicated.

Either way, I highly doubt the Dogs will factor into the top end of this draft other than JUH. I can imagine Port or Collingwood could be interested in our first pick given it should come before their FS/NGA kids

I hope Brisbane is keen on your first round pick.

How familiar are you with the draft bidding and points matching system? Just checking.

You have to use your first available pick/s after a bid, to match a bid.

You would have to trade out your first round pick, if you intended to match with later picks. And you can only take as many picks to the draft as available list spots.

 

[Virgin Dog]

I hope Brisbane is keen on your first round pick.

How familiar are you with the draft bidding and points matching system? Just checking.

You have to use your first available pick/s after a bid, to match a bid.

You would have to trade out your first round pick, if you intended to match with later picks. And you can only take as many picks to the draft as available list spots.

Yeah I'm quite familiar, I just probably wasn't very clear when I mentioned not having to use our 1st to match. I meant we'd have the option to trade for a player or future pick/s if we accumulated enough points later in the draft.

On the one hand, with list sizes likely reducing, I would expect us to only bring maybe 3 live picks to the draft. On the other hand, with only 3 live picks, and JUH likely to be bid on in the top 5, we'd need some fairly hefty points attached to each pick, or else risk going into a deficit. Especially since we have Raak and Macpherson to consider (Raak could be bid on in the late 2nd or early 3rd round, whereas Macpherson will hopefully be free to match). Could mean we aim to bring in 4-5 new players through the draft, with 4-5 picks being swallowed by JUH and Raak, then take Macpherson and a couple of late picks at the end.

Either way, I don't think we're necessarily locked into trading our 1st for points. We have options, just depends on what happens with guys like McLean (Hawks), Schache (Pies), or even someone like Lewis Young (SA teams) who could all attract 2nd/3rd rounders if they head out

 

[briztoon]

Yeah I'm quite familiar, I just probably wasn't very clear when I mentioned not having to use our 1st to match. I meant we'd have the option to trade for a player or future pick/s if we accumulated enough points later in the draft.

On the one hand, with list sizes likely reducing, I would expect us to only bring maybe 3 live picks to the draft. On the other hand, with only 3 live picks, and JUH likely to be bid on in the top 5, we'd need some fairly hefty points attached to each pick, or else risk going into a deficit. Especially since we have Raak and Macpherson to consider (Raak could be bid on in the late 2nd or early 3rd round, whereas Macpherson will hopefully be free to match). Could mean we aim to bring in 4-5 new players through the draft, with 4-5 picks being swallowed by JUH and Raak, then take Macpherson and a couple of late picks at the end.

Either way, I don't think we're necessarily locked into trading our 1st for points. We have options, just depends on what happens with guys like McLean (Hawks), Schache (Pies), or even someone like Lewis Young (SA teams) who could all attract 2nd/3rd rounders if they head out

No idea what the Lions will do, but say we trade one of our firsts for a player during trade week, I would trade our other first round pick, plus our future second for your first round pick this year.

As for matching Raak and Macpherson, I would expect this year there might be 50 picks in the draft, so when you use three picks to match a bid on JUH, two will go back to the end of the draft, and become picks in the early 50’s, so they’ll have points attached to them again. Hopefully a few other nga players require teams to use multiple picks to match, so those two picks of yours move up the draft order, before another team bids on Raak.

 

[Royboy1961]

No idea what the Lions will do, but say we trade one of our firsts for a player during trade week, I would trade our other first round pick, plus our future second for your first round pick this year.

As for matching Raak and Macpherson, I would expect this year there might be 50 picks in the draft, so when you use three picks to match a bid on JUH, two will go back to the end of the draft, and become picks in the early 50’s, so they’ll have points attached to them again. Hopefully a few other nga players require teams to use multiple picks to match, so those two picks of yours move up the draft order, before another team bids on Raak.

From memory we don’t have a 2nd round pick this was swapped to Port Adelaide?

 

[Mutineer]

Bolter?

 

[eDPS]

Bolter?

Idk Poulter the bolter had a better ring to it haha

Somewhat he is considering he is outside the AFL academy but not sure he should be top 20.

 

[Mutineer]

Idk Poulter the bolter had a better ring to it haha

Somewhat he is considering he is outside the AFL academy but not sure he should be top 20.

Why Brayden is really "cooking"...

 

[perplexed]

No idea what the Lions will do, but say we trade one of our firsts for a player during trade week, I would trade our other first round pick, plus our future second for your first round pick this year.

As for matching Raak and Macpherson, I would expect this year there might be 50 picks in the draft, so when you use three picks to match a bid on JUH, two will go back to the end of the draft, and become picks in the early 50’s, so they’ll have points attached to them again. Hopefully a few other nga players require teams to use multiple picks to match, so those two picks of yours move up the draft order, before another team bids on Raak.

I don't think that picks generated at the end of the draft after matching a bid can be used for points.

 

[briztoon]

From memory we don’t have a 2nd round pick this was swapped to Port Adelaide?

I said future (as in 2021) second round pick.

 

[briztoon]

I don't think that picks generated at the end of the draft after matching a bid can be used for points.

I’m not sure if it’s ever happened in the past, guess we’ll find out this year. But I don’t see why they can’t.

I mean, yes I can see why they shouldn’t, but this is the AFL.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

With an ageing Kennedy WCE would also be looking at a way to trade up.

Trade up to the top 5/10? Not sure how WC are doing that, given our first pick will likely be in the mid 30s. Nor are KPPs the main area of need.

 

[1990crow]

Trade up to the top 5/10? Not sure how WC are doing that, given our first pick will likely be in the mid 30s. Nor are KPPs the main area of need.

Allen is a good prospect.
Brander?

 

[Mr Alldayeveryday]

Bolter?

Would he be compared to Mitch Duncan?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Allen is a good prospect.
Brander?

Still question marks about whether Brander plays back or forward. But there's also Jakey Waterman and a highly rated ruck-forward in Bouncing Bailey Williams. And Darling has a few years left in him.

 

[1990crow]

Still question marks about whether Brander plays back or forward. But there's also Jakey Waterman and a highly rated ruck-forward in Bouncing Bailey Williams. And Darling has a few years left in him.

From what I've seen of Brander he looks like more of a flanker than KPP.
Would try him at HFF moving to wing.

 

[Mutineer]

Would he be compared to Mitch Duncan?

No.