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eDPS Pie 4 Life Firstly, great work on the draft guide, I haven’t finished it yet but there is an unbelievable amount of work that has gone into this, so well done to all involved.

I was immediately fascinated by your draft range of 2-5 for Will Phillips. Prior to reading the guide, I felt he was likely to drop to pick 6 or 7 (with a draft range of 4-8), with the top 5 (in no particular order) likely to be:

McDonald
Ugle-Hagan
Hollands
Grainger-Barrass
Thilthorpe

I then felt Phillips and Campbell would be the most likely picks at 6 and 7 (again in no particular order).

Just wondering if there’s any intel on one or two of North, Sydney or the Hawks looking seriously at Phillips, because it would have to be one of them taking him if he was to go inside the top 5 (unless there’s a blockbuster live trade).


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Thetrader15 said:
I didn't know that.

Interesting, pie4life posted this:

"8.8 Father/Son Rookie Pre-Selection (a) Subject to Rule 8.8(b), where an eligible Father/Son Player has been nominated in accordance with Rule 8.4(b) and is not selected at a National Draft or PreSeason Draft Selection Meeting, the Club with whom he is eligible as a 57 Father/Son Player may include him on its Rookie List prior to the Rookie Draft Selection Meeting in accordance with Rule 10.4."

I am intrigued by the word "may include him on its Rookie List prior to the Rookie Draft Selection Meeting in accordance with Rule 10.4."
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If anything, I think this shows just how unclear the drafting rules and regulations are 😂
 
huludicidal said:
eDPS Pie 4 Life Firstly, great work on the draft guide, I haven’t finished it yet but there is an unbelievable amount of work that has gone into this, so well done to all involved.

I was immediately fascinated by your draft range of 2-5 for Will Phillips. Prior to reading the guide, I felt he was likely to drop to pick 6 or 7 (with a draft range of 4-8), with the top 5 (in no particular order) likely to be:

McDonald
Ugle-Hagan
Hollands
Grainger-Barrass
Thilthorpe

I then felt Phillips and Campbell would be the most likely picks at 6 and 7 (again in no particular order).

Just wondering if there’s any intel on one or two of North, Sydney or the Hawks looking seriously at Phillips, because it would have to be one of them taking him if he was to go inside the top 5 (unless there’s a blockbuster live trade).


Cheers
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A good chance Phillips and Campbell end up in the top five. Of the other five, McDonald, JUH and Hollands most likely to go top three. If Crows don't pick Thilthorpe, he could sneak outside the top five (but could also go to the Hawks). Of that group, he and DGB are probably the most likely to slip out, Thilthorpe given the injuries is one tipped to be overlooked for those top few.

A couple of those teams are seriously considering Phillips. Not as much North, but certainly the other two. The news is constantly changing, but once we put it all together we will have a Phantom Draft which could well settle down the order from our side of things.
 

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Pie 4 Life said:
A good chance Phillips and Campbell end up in the top five. Of the other five, McDonald, JUH and Hollands most likely to go top three. If Crows don't pick Thilthorpe, he could sneak outside the top five (but could also go to the Hawks). Of that group, he and DGB are probably the most likely to slip out, Thilthorpe given the injuries is one tipped to be overlooked for those top few.

A couple of those teams are seriously considering Phillips. Not as much North, but certainly the other two. The news is constantly changing, but once we put it all together we will have a Phantom Draft which could well settle down the order from our side of things.
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This should be enough of an indicator that Adelaide should NOT take Thilthorpe. I you're right about him sliding, so there are chances for the Crows to trade up from 9 to get him later.
 
Thetrader15 said:
This should be enough of an indicator that Adelaide should NOT take Thilthorpe. I you're right about him sliding, so there are chances for the Crows to trade up from 9 to get him later.
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Personaly I think Thilthorpe to the Crows at number 1 is pretty much locked in.
 
Harris 10 said:
Anybody know how these new rules will work?
This is from Jon Ralph article.


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What I see is they have the potential to derail this draft a bit if clubs leave spots open for during the year. I am not a fan of these rules as they take the edge of the current draft, particularly where the nuggets of gold can be found further down the list. Does anyone know what sort of contract these players would be offered, could we have another Cody Hirst scenario here?
 
Thetrader15 said:
This should be enough of an indicator that Adelaide should NOT take Thilthorpe. I you're right about him sliding, so there are chances for the Crows to trade up from 9 to get him later.
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Yeah i think Hawthorn is the wildcard. I'm interested to see what the Hawks do, but if he's left by the Roos and particularly Hawks, then I see him getting past Gold Coast. Perhaps tabling a deal of 9 + say a swap of picks next year for 5, then there's a chance he's there. Both those picks will be a couple later due to JUH and likely Campbell, but still.
 
Hey guys,

Firstly, well done. You guys are getting a lot of positive feedback and clearly worked very hard on this.

Secondly, is there a link on which a can read it. I may have missed it on a previous post?


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Pie 4 Life said:
A good chance Phillips and Campbell end up in the top five. Of the other five, McDonald, JUH and Hollands most likely to go top three. If Crows don't pick Thilthorpe, he could sneak outside the top five (but could also go to the Hawks). Of that group, he and DGB are probably the most likely to slip out, Thilthorpe given the injuries is one tipped to be overlooked for those top few.

A couple of those teams are seriously considering Phillips. Not as much North, but certainly the other two. The news is constantly changing, but once we put it all together we will have a Phantom Draft which could well settle down the order from our side of things.
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Thanks for the insight. Very interesting that you see DGB as one who is somewhat likely to slip out of the Top 5. I figured Sydney were pretty much a lock to select him, but I guess if Hollands was available to the Swans they may pull that trigger, or perhaps elect to go with Phillips over DGB also.

Personally I don’t believe Adelaide will take Thilthorpe (It’s McDonald, Hollands or a trade down to pick 3-5 for mine). So if the Crows do pass on Riley and select Hollands or McDonald at 1, I completely agree, RT would either go to the Hawks or slip out of the Top 5.

Any strong links between the Hawks and DGB? I would’ve thought Gold Coast would absolutely love him at their club if he falls to their pick.
 
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Johnny Bananas said:
Great work with the draft guide, I just want to point out that in Blake Coleman's section it says "forward crap" instead of "forward craft".
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Are you sure its a typo?
 

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andleanback said:
Because zorko is one of the few short players that has made it in the midfield at afl level. Most guys at his height who are midfielders at underage level have to either move to defence or the forward line to get games.
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Why don't you use Prestia then. B&F in a premiership team. Zorko is ordinary.
 
SumTingWong said:
Why don't you use Prestia then. B&F in a premiership team. Zorko is ordinary.
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Zorko is hardly ordinary, was a very good player in a poor side for so long. If he played for a victorian club he'd get a lot more plaudits. He's a 4x bnf winner and all australian. I think more people compare smaller players with Zorko is because he did it the hard way and was probably overlooked because of his height so he had to toil in the state leagues for a couple of seasons to get his chance, he made his afl debut at 23. Whereas Prestia was always seen a gun and taken top 10 in his draft year, which is rare for someone of his height that was purely a midfielder. But given he was taken so high he was always going to be given the opportunity to play in the midfield, a lot of smaller guys are not afforded the same opportunities and often have to recreate themselves as a small forward/back.
 
SumTingWong said:
Why don't you use Prestia then. B&F in a premiership team. Zorko is ordinary.
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Zorko has 4 B&Fs and 1 AA, by your criteria the likes of Gary Ablett Snr, [PLAYERCARD]Tony Lockett[/PLAYERCARD], Nathan Buckley, Robert Harvey and Nick Riewoldt are ordinary because they never won a B&F in a premiership team.... or even played in a premiership team.
 
SumTingWong said:
Why don't you use Prestia then. B&F in a premiership team. Zorko is ordinary.
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Reckon you could organise a couple of those "ordinary" Zorko types for the Crows?
 
Many thanks to Pie 4 Life and eDPS for the mountain of work that you have put in on compiling the list.

Much appreciated. :thumbsu:
 
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