Draft Watcher eDPS Draft Watch 2020

[Snuffaluphagus]

It depends on the rest of the pool and what’s on offer, do you ignore an elite local talent for a needs based pick?

it’s a tough one, for example Essendon are stacked for key defenders aswell and have nga prospect Brand to come in aswell so with a top 5 pick it would be a tough decision to pass on an elite talent despite not fitting the needs but there comes a time I guess where you have to bite the bullet and just go the needs based option early.

A lot of clubs will go with best available talent with those high end picks, you also don’t know for sure what the squad will look like in 3-5 years time, Essendon would have felt comfortable with a forward trio of Daniher/McKernan/Stringer but when the big piece is injured or wants to leave then your left with a big hole to fill.

For better or worse, history suggests we dont really give two shits about home state, I'd hope this year, with three legitimate top 10 WA talents we take that extra bit of safety and go local

 

[briztoon]

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Ok I’m here to melt.

I’m on board with the Ford selection.

I understand the Berry selection. I don’t like, and believe we have enough of his type of player already, but he is a Brisbane type player.

 

[eDPS]

Ok I’m here to melt.

I’m on board with the Ford selection.

I understand the Berry selection. I don’t like, and believe we have enough of his type of player already, but he is a Brisbane type player.

Have enough Berrys you reckon?

 

[briztoon]

Have enough Berrys you reckon?

Probably not.

We could genuinely start three Berry’s in our midfield in a few years time, in such a scenario.

 

[eDPS]

Probably not.

We could genuinely start three Berry’s in our midfield in a few years time, in such a scenario.

Might have to look for some young ruckman with the same surname

 

[weltschmerz]

Probably not.

We could genuinely start three Berry’s in our midfield in a few years time, in such a scenario.

After next year the Dogs could end up with three Wests running around. That could be fun.

 

[briztoon]

Might have to look for some young ruckman with the same surname

Is there one?

 

[briztoon]

I’ve shifted my ruck focus to next year and Toby Conway from the Falcons. And I think there’s a young ruck at GWV I’m supposed to monitor as well.

 

[Joao]

I'm not comfortable with DGB at 2 (or any KPD) unless they are an elite kick. My understanding is he is not.

 

[eDPS]

I'm not comfortable with DGB at 2 (or any KPD) unless they are an elite kick. My understanding is he is not.

To be fair not many key defenders in the game are elite kicks, an elite interceptor though with the athleticism to play on talls and smalls.

 

[flipper83]

I'm not comfortable with DGB at 2 (or any KPD) unless they are an elite kick. My understanding is he is not.

Naughton was a very iffy kick but would definitely be considered at pick 1 in a redraft.

 

[Pykie]

Going to be interesting if we get a top 5 pick from Melbourne and then end up with another top 10 pick of our own.

Given the two picks, I could definitely see us as one of the potential Hollands destinations.


Some 'in the know' types have indicated that the whole point of the Melbourne trade was a way of ensuring we had some leverage to trade up for DGB if required in 2020. We identified him last year as the priority for the two drafts.

So it will be interesting to see what plays out.

 

[Joao]

To be fair not many key defenders in the game are elite kicks, an elite interceptor though with the athleticism to play on talls and smells.

Ok elite is probably asking for too much, very good would suffice.

I think KPDs can be and often are found later in the draft. Gov, Andrews, Hooker etc. I don't think you need to splash a top 3 pick on one.

Naughton was a very iffy kick but would definitely be considered at pick 1 in a redraft.

I contest he was an iffy kick. His kicks had a bit of loop and his action was a bit strange but hit the target more often than not. I said as much before his draft.

I also think the main reason he would be in contention for number 1 is because he has exposed form as a forward. Whilst he was very good in defense I reckon some of the smalls will come over the top eventually. As a forward though I don't think they do.

 

[PMBangers]

I think KPDs can be and often are found later in the draft. Gov, Andrews, Hooker etc. I don't think you need to splash a top 3 pick on one.

You could make this argument for any position though really, think the spread would end up leaning more towards top end draft selections if you looked at the whole league

 

[Joao]

You could make this argument for any position though really, think the spread would end up leaning more towards top end draft selections if you looked at the whole league

I agree with your first statement (not so much for KPFs) but not sure your second holds up.

Off the top of my head (plus research their draft position).

Jonas - Rookie draft 16
Andrews - 61
Frost - Rookie draft 1
Frawley - 12
Moore - 9 F/S
H.Taylor - 17
Henry - Rookie draft 16
Hurley - 5
Howard - 56
Carlisle - 24
Tarrant - 15
S.Taylor - 28
Davis - 10
Aliir - 44
Weitering - 1
Grimes - Pre Season draft 2
Astbury - 35
Lever - 14
May - Zone
McGovern - Rookie draft
Barass - 43
Hamling - 32
Pearce - 37
Logue - 8
Talia - 13
McAsey - 6

Probably missed some important ones. Weitering (whom I think is a jet but is also the complete package), Hurley, Logue and McAsey the only ones taken in the top 10. Feel like 10-20 is the sweetspot but still plenty of quality later in the draft.

Solidifies my position, no way I take a defender at 1-5 unless they are complete like Weitering, whom I don't think has a noticeable weakness. Doubly so in our case since we have already used a top 10 on Logue. Two top 10s for KPD is overkill.

 

[go_the_dockers]

eDPS - Who are the best 2 or 3 small\medium forwards and where do you expect them to be drafted?

 

[eDPS]

eDPS - Who are the best 2 or 3 small\medium forwards and where do you expect them to be drafted?

I’ll give you 3 smalls and 3 mediums

Smalls
Bailey Laurie 20-40
Blake Coleman 20-40
Tariek Newchurch 25-50

Mediums
Elijah Hollands 1-10
Archie Perkins 5-25
Eddie Ford 10-30

Ive made player profiles for every player here on my thread, I might need to find a good way to link those for people who want to find them in the thread haha

 

[Davo-27]

To be fair not many key defenders in the game are elite kicks, an elite interceptor though with the athleticism to play on talls and smells.

Not all small forwards smell

 

[briztoon]

I agree with your first statement (not so much for KPFs) but not sure your second holds up.

Off the top of my head (plus research their draft position).

Jonas - Rookie draft 16
Andrews - 61
Frost - Rookie draft 1
Frawley - 12
Moore - 9 F/S
H.Taylor - 17
Henry - Rookie draft 16
Hurley - 5
Howard - 56
Carlisle - 24
Tarrant - 15
S.Taylor - 28
Davis - 10
Aliir - 44
Weitering - 1
Grimes - Pre Season draft 2
Astbury - 35
Lever - 14
May - Zone
McGovern - Rookie draft
Barass - 43
Hamling - 32
Pearce - 37
Logue - 8
Talia - 13
McAsey - 6

Probably missed some important ones. Weitering (whom I think is a jet but is also the complete package), Hurley, Logue and McAsey the only ones taken in the top 10. Feel like 10-20 is the sweetspot but still plenty of quality later in the draft.

Solidifies my position, no way I take a defender at 1-5 unless they are complete like Weitering, whom I don't think has a noticeable weakness. Doubly so in our case since we have already used a top 10 on Logue. Two top 10s for KPD is overkill.

Andrews played as a key forward as a junior, and was moved in to defence by Leppitsch.

Hipwood on the other hand, played as a key defender as a junior, and was put up forward because we had Andrews in defence.

 

[briztoon]

I agree with your first statement (not so much for KPFs) but not sure your second holds up.

Off the top of my head (plus research their draft position).

Jonas - Rookie draft 16
Andrews - 61
Frost - Rookie draft 1
Frawley - 12
Moore - 9 F/S
H.Taylor - 17
Henry - Rookie draft 16
Hurley - 5
Howard - 56
Carlisle - 24
Tarrant - 15
S.Taylor - 28
Davis - 10
Aliir - 44
Weitering - 1
Grimes - Pre Season draft 2
Astbury - 35
Lever - 14
May - Zone
McGovern - Rookie draft
Barass - 43
Hamling - 32
Pearce - 37
Logue - 8
Talia - 13
McAsey - 6

Probably missed some important ones. Weitering (whom I think is a jet but is also the complete package), Hurley, Logue and McAsey the only ones taken in the top 10. Feel like 10-20 is the sweetspot but still plenty of quality later in the draft.

Solidifies my position, no way I take a defender at 1-5 unless they are complete like Weitering, whom I don't think has a noticeable weakness. Doubly so in our case since we have already used a top 10 on Logue. Two top 10s for KPD is overkill.

A lot also depends on each years draft crop.

 

[Joao]

Andrews played as a key forward as a junior, and was moved in to defence by Leppitsch.

Hipwood on the other hand, played as a key defender as a junior, and was put up forward because we had Andrews in defence.

Sure, but the fact remains that the Lyons got an AA defender with pick 61 which is all I was arguing.

A lot also depends on each years draft crop.

Clearly it doesn't, which was the whole point I was making. The only hard and fast exception I would make is Weitering. Even Hurley I don't think is better than many on the list taken later.

The vast majority of good KPDs don't come from the top 5.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Still a bit to play out with local lads O’Driscoll and Trew, they could firmly enter top 5 calculations with a strong champs if we get one held late in the year

I'm not as sold on Trew to be honest currently, but O'Driscoll is certainly a talent.

 

[fightingfury_88]

Caleb Poulter wowee

Finally got around to watching this match on the trusty Digital Pass. That second quarter was certainly something, looked a little like Eddie Ford out there. Clean hands at ground level and in the air and seemed to hunt the ball with intent. Hopefully he can back it up this week.

Also really liked the look of Arlo Draper for South Adelaide. I know he's not eligible this year but he's got a few moves and looked real comfortable at half forward and wing.

 

[bone2468]

Anyone be able to enlighten me on how the Peel colts went on the weekend, Kobe farmer etc

 

[Mutineer]

I’ll give you 3 smalls and 3 mediums

Smalls
Bailey Laurie 20-40
Blake Coleman 20-40
Tariek Newchurch 25-50

Mediums
Elijah Hollands 1-10
Archie Perkins 5-25
Eddie Ford 10-30

Ive made player profiles for every player here on my thread, I might need to find a good way to link those for people who want to find them in the thread haha

Jake Bowey?

What range do you seem going?