List Mgmt. EFC Trade/Draft Talk III - 1 McClug, 1 Billings (AND ROSS) for 4th rounder get it done dodoro

Who should we take with pick 1?

  • Hugh McCluggage

    Votes: 202 59.6%
  • Will Brodie

    Votes: 50 14.7%
  • SPS

    Votes: 13 3.8%
  • Rhys Mathieson

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Jack Billings

    Votes: 22 6.5%
  • Ben Ainsworth

    Votes: 9 2.7%
  • A well pickled ham

    Votes: 7 2.1%
  • A bag of mouldy spuds

    Votes: 5 1.5%
  • A rancid orange

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • A floury apple

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • An over mushy pear

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A rock hard mandarin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A braised brussel sprout

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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We've had one of the worst performing forward lines over the last few years.
Our I50 to scoring opportunity rate would have to be close to the worst in the league over that period.

You can argue whether Darling is worth it or not, but I think our forward line is far from set
Agree. We lack a true 2nd KPF.
We have depth in the 3rd & 4th talls with Laverde, Langford, Redman, Brown, Ambrose, etc. Even Fanta plays above his height profile.
Plus guys like Jobe,
T-Bell would be an ideal short term solution until we find the right alternative.

One thing people are forgetting is that at Pick 19, Battle or Kerr should still be available. And a bid on Sproule is unlikely to be matched by GWS if its earlier than the late 3rd round. Losing McCarthy may force their hand, esp with the Brander situation up in the air, but its hard to tell. Lobb, Patton, Cameron, Flynn, Tomlinson. They are fairly set for talls.

A scenario for Darling that may work involves a fairly complicated deal with GWS and the WA clubs.
Freo get McCarthy & 7 for 3
Then
GWS get 1, 2017 EFC 2nd Rd & whatever we get for Hibberd
EFC get 3 & 15 & 16 + Jake Barrett & Pat McKenna*

With 15, 16 & 19 we can either bolster the young stocks we are missing (Simpkin, Berry, Scharenberg, Galluci, Venables, Battle, Kerr, Drew)

or target Darling with 1 or 2 of those picks.

personally prefer to take 4x top 20 picks to this draft and look to emulate the Dogs' recruiting strategy.

1 of Brodie, McGrath or McCluggage
3 of Simpkin, Berry, Scharenberg, Galluci, Venables, Battle, Kerr, Drew
*Adding McKenna and Barrett gives us 2 more early 20's players who i think are worthy of AFL exposure.
Barrett is an inside ball magnet with a decent frame and engine (albeit at NEAFL level) and McKenna gives us a young tall to look at in the case Laverde and/or Langford fully transition to the midfield or Redman doesnt make it.
 

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How do we trade down to 5 and carlton get pick 6?

I thought we'd take Carltons 5 if GWS can secure it in a trade.
Richmond hold 6 which will probs be traded to GC for Prestia
and we have GWS pick 7 via Collingwood
Not to mention if GC have to match the bid on Bowes at pick 2 the pick 6 would probably be downgraded and our 7 would turn into 6
i think the trade scenario was we get 5 & 7 from GWS and i was showing how Brodie could slide
Would involve GCS losing 4 to Bowes and Freo using 3 on English or Marshall.
 

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So what you at effectively saying is that we are not interested in McGrath, Brodie and McCluggage who would have all been selected by other clubs and we will take Venables or similar! Or do you believe that the better players in the draft will somehow be miraculously overlooked by the other clubs?
I am saying 2 picks in the top 10 is better than 1.
 

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So what you at effectively saying is that we are not interested in McGrath, Brodie and McCluggage who would have all been selected by other clubs and we will take Venables or similar! Or do you believe that the better players in the draft will somehow be miraculously overlooked by the other clubs?
Brodie i think would slide to 5 and if he doesnt, taranto looks as good as those 3 as well.
We could land Brodie & Taranto with 5 & 7
If we don't, we'd at least get 2 of Brodie, Ainsworth, SPS, Taranto, Schrimshaw or Marshall.
All in all, not a bad haul.
 

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If we were to get picks 5 and 7, would anybody have a problem with trading one of them for Darling? We could see a draft order of:

1. Gold Coast: Bowes
2. GWS: McGrath
3. Brisbane: Petrevski-Seton
4. Fremantle: McCluggage
5. Essendon: Brodie
6. West Coast: English

That would be a great get for us.
I don't post in here, just lurk, but this 150%. Need Darling, having two good forwards would be like Lloyd/Lucas. WC can have a late pick too if we aren't going to use them. Just get him over here
 

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If we were to get picks 5 and 7, would anybody have a problem with trading one of them for Darling? We could see a draft order of:

1. Gold Coast: Bowes
2. GWS: McGrath
3. Brisbane: Petrevski-Seton
4. Fremantle: McCluggage
5. Essendon: Brodie
6. West Coast: English

That would be a great get for us.
Yeah, if we traded pick 7 for darling I'd probably microwave my membership.
 
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Brodie i think would slide to 5 and if he doesnt, taranto looks as good as those 3 as well.
We could land Brodie & Taranto with 5 & 7
If we don't, we'd at least get 2 of Brodie, Ainsworth, SPS, Taranto, Schrimshaw or Marshall.
All in all, not a bad haul.
Im guessing if we trade 1 for whatever the first two definitely be Mcgrath and Bowes.

All the noise leaning towards that.
SPS, McCluggage, Brodie, Ainsworth are my guess for the next 4 in no particular order (knowledge based entirely off reading this thread...)

If we get 3, 4 or 5 in some form of trade we would be guaranteed to see at least 2 of these still on the board. Im happy with trading 1 unless Dodo decides one player stands head and shoulder above the rest
 

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Would rely on 2 things.
1-Brisbane bid on Bowes. I think this happens 100% if they get Pick 3 as a priority. I think it 70/30 if they only have 2.
2-Freo go tall instead of a mid. 50/50 chance of this happening, but English and Marshall would be attractive to them.

As unlikley as it is, the way i see the draft panning out in the above scenario is:
1-McGrath (GWS)
2-Bowes (GCS - bid match)
3-SPS (BL)
4-Marshall (Freo)
5-Brodie or McCluggage (Ess)
6-Whoever doesnt go at 5 (Carl)
7-Ainsworth (Rich)
How would you feel if it went.....

1-McGrath (GWS)
2-Brodie (GCS - bid match)
3-SPS (BL)
4-McLuggage (Freo)
5-??????????????? (Ess)
6-Whoever doesnt go at 5 (Carl)
7-Ainsworth (Rich)

Who would we take?
 

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Saw the parade close up with my young son today.

This Grand Final is Men versus Boys. The Dogs are SO young looking.....

If they get up, it will be a re-incarnation of the Baby Bombers.
 
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