Resource Election pledges and other funding commitments

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In the 2019 crowds and ratings thread Hawkk made me aware that Labor have pledged $20m for the Kennedy Centre at Dingley.

It got me thinking that since last year there has been a lot pledged and some actually committed via MYEFO last year and the Budget this year a few weeks back, that I will make a list of what I know. If others know of their clubs getting election pledges then you can stick the info in here.

* Labor pledges $5m to Port's Aboriginal Centre of Excellence, a community project that state Labor committed $8m to if they won in March 2018. Project has received another $4m in 2017 from the feds and total project is $18m. There is another $17m of football precinct development that state labor pledged about $2m of that $8m last year with the balance for the Aboriginal Centre of Excellence
https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/n...commitment-to-aboriginal-centre-of-excellence

* Liberals pledge $15m to crows moving to North Adelaide Aquatics Centre - a $60m project.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news...e/news-story/6c7268223137fc81c76af56bf488c3c6

Labor matched that a couple of days ago
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news...e/news-story/025ac2125f8eeff8d3ebe8d505b2a256

* Labor pledged $20m to $130m Hawks Kennedy Community Centre at Dingley
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...ng-if-labor-win-election-20190508-p51l60.html


* Labor last October pledged $25m to help get Tassie ready for an AFL, funding some ground improvements but help with pathways re VFL team, U/18 team and women's team in the lead up to a licence.
https://www.sportsradio.com.au/ill-...en-pledges-25-million-for-tasmanian-afl-team/

Liberals the other day said they wont match it

* Labor pledges $20m to Kardinia Park $140m Stage 5 upgrade where Labor state government has pledged $102m
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...ba-stadium-redevelopment-20190515-p51nkj.html

Liberals between October Swans announcement and MYEFO in December 2018 committed $15m to a $65m centre at Moore Park next to SCG to house Sydney Swans Academy, the NSW Swifts Netball Club and the future Sydney Swans AFL Women’s Team. A cafe, museum, event and recreation space will be for public use. The Clontarf Foundation and GO Foundation, for Indigenous education, and an Australian Red Cross Blood Service donation centre
Original announcement in SMH + AFL website
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hordern-pavilion-sydney-swans-royal-hall-20181004-p507oz.html
and
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-05/swans-sign-deal-to-build-new-hq-near-scg

And after Easter, the government re announces it for extra publicity and photo opportunities
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...-boost-for-women-s-sport-20190423-p51glx.html


April's Budget confirming 4 x $15m grants to Cowboys in Townsville, Brisabne Lions, Carlton and Richmond community related and women's footy projects.


From page 126, Part 2 Expenditure Measures - Infrastructure, Regional Development and Cities of Budget Paper No. 2;

https://www.budget.gov.au/2019-20/content/bp2/download/bp2.pdf

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Think the Feds (Julie Bishop) nailed money for the Eagles new facility at Lathlain.
Will house Wirra's Foundation :thumbsu:

Good use of taxpayers money NO.
 
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Think the Feds (Julie Bishop) nailed money for the Eagles new facility at Lathlain.
Will house Wirra's Foundation :thumbsu:

Good use of taxpayers money NO.
Both WA clubs got $10 mill from feds + $10 mill from state governments = $20 mill each, a few years ago for their recently completed facilities. Both have big community components to get the $$$.
 

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Both WA clubs got $10 mill from feds + $10 mill from state governments = $20 mill each, a few years ago for their recently completed facilities. Both have big community components to get the $$$.

Has anyone ever tested the community component. hang on Simmo, my kids are using that ....
 
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I thought if labour won it would seriously get the ball rolling on a Tasmanian AFL team, can’t see much happening in the next three years now
Maybe. I am aware of Shorten's $25,000,000 pledge to assist in the establishment of a Tas. AFL team.
Politically, it is possible Tasmania has become more important (as do other marginal seat areas). For political "favours" & generous govt. handouts, the worst place to be is in a safe seat.

Also, Tasmania has TWELVE Senators. The Senate is crucial to pass legislation, & both the LNP & ALP know it is extremely unlikely they will ever get a majority in the Senate (In the Lower House in 2019, only c. 75% voted for either LNP or the ALP- & lower in the Senate).

Tasmania has much political clout- because it has swing Lower House & Senate seats, & we just had a very close Federal election (2 seat majority in Lower House to LNP?).
The LNP, after winning the "unwinnable election" by a very narrow margin, will want to shore up its support for the next election- providing $25,000,000 Federal money is "chickenfeed" cf. total Federal revenues. It will financially support the new Tas. team.

The AFL realises it is essential to the long term health of the AFL to restore the legendary VFL/AFL recruitment goldmine from Tasmania _ & that Tas. has been grossly neglected.
 
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Maybe. I am aware of Shorten's $25,000,000 pledge to assist in the establishment of a Tas. AFL team.
and the ALP lost TWO of their 3 seats in Tasmania at this election. Clearly the Tasmanian people voted against this pledge or didn't think it was important enough of an issue to make them keep their vote with the ALP. Its a non issue election wise now. Holding on to it makes you look foolish.

Also, Tasmania has TWELVE Senators. The Senate is crucial to pass legislation, & both the LNP & ALP know it is extremely unlikely they will ever get a majority in the Senate (In the Lower House in 2019, only c. 75% voted for either LNP or the ALP- & lower in the Senate).
THE. SENATE. DOESN'T. WORK. LIKE. THAT.

Tasmania has much political clout- because it has swing Lower House & Senate seats, & we just had a very close Federal election (2 seat majority in Lower House to LNP?).
Yeah and the LNP had swings to them and won seats in other States as well. Tasmania isn't special because they want an AFL team in that regard.

The LNP, after winning the "unwinnable election" by a very narrow margin, will want to shore up its support for the next election- providing $25,000,000 Federal money is "chickenfeed" cf. total Federal revenues. It will financially support the new Tas. team.
and yet they were able to win Tasmanian seats without needing to offer money to fund an AFL side. They aren't under any obligation to support a policy that was roundly rejected by the Tasmanian public on Saturday, so to say THEY WILL support a new team in the manner promised by the ALP is stuff of fantasy.
 

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Clearly[?] the Tasmanian people voted against this pledge [I disagree, other reasons most likely for LNP vote. Most Tasmanians would welcome $25,000,000 Federal funds to help with the establishment costs of a new Tas. club]...THE. SENATE. DOESN'T. WORK. LIKE. THAT.
I am aware, of course, that MHR's & Senators usually vote along their own party lines- but not always. Support for their own AFL team has virtually unanimous support of all Tasmanian elected politicians (& probably those who want to be elected from Tas.!).

The Federal LNP in Victoria boasted it would provide funding for a fast train to benefit the very marginal Federal Corangamite Surf Coast seat: Federal cost c. $1 billion+.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-22/fast-rail-train-service-pledge-for-geelong/10927982

I think if the next election again appears to be very close, the Federal LNP would provide one-off funding to establish a new Tas. team.

Following Caroline Wilson's recent The Age article, & other comments- including the link below- it appears the AFL is strongly encouraging the Tas. govt. to pursue its own, new AFL team; & to meet certain objectives first, in order to satisfy the AFL that it would be self sufficient.

AFL Tasmania Chairman J.Wilkinson said on 15.5.19 (when asked if Tas. will ever have its own team)

"My personal view is yes...I really believe it is a matter of when, not if...if the AFL give us an invitation to play in Tasmania by 2023 to 2025, that would create the spark to get more people playing the game...".

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/hobart/programs/breakfast/footy-revival-in-tasmania/11114396

It can be inferred, from the recent comments of G. McLachlan, J. Wilkinson & others, that Tasmania might be able to obtain the funds to make its own team financially viable ie AFL would only be required to make the normal distributions that other small, heartland Clubs receive.
 
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I am aware, of course, that MHR's & Senators usually vote along their own party lines- but not always. Support for their own AFL team has virtually unanimous support of all Tasmanian elected politicians (& probably those who want to be elected from Tas.!).
Name a single time an entire block of MP's and Senators from one state voted against party lines on an issue to further their state? Why would such a measure be taken and how would they obtain an AFL licence when the Parliament can't force the AFL to do so? How can a group of 17 people outvote any of the other states with more representatives or those states as a block? You can't, haven't and won't.

The Federal LNP in Victoria boasted it would provide funding for a fast train to benefit the very marginal Federal Corangamite Surf Coast seat: Federal cost c. $1 billion+.
Surely you are aware that there were plenty of promises made by both sides in plenty of marginal seats? The LNP now gets to deliver on their promises made regardless if they won the seat or not. The ALP's promises are forgotten about.....

I think if the next election again appears to be very close, the Federal LNP would provide one-off funding to establish a new Tas. team.
You can think that. I chose to think that they won't as they didn't promise it this time and could spend the $25 million in far better ways straight away with direct results. Shorten's promise was never going to be delivered this term as it was conditional on Tasmania receiving its licence and that could be 2 elections from now at the earliest. Why hold on to something so unimportant? Talk to the feds when Tassie gets their licence, not "we'll fund you on condition you get it". You fell for Shorten, hook, line and sinker.

It can be inferred, from the recent comments of G. McLachlan, J. Wilkinson & others, that Tasmania might be able to obtain the funds to make its own team financially viable ie AFL would only be required to make the normal distributions that other small, heartland Clubs receive.
You infer a lot of thing, not all of them correct. But I would think the AFL would like to see how Tasmania proposes to fund itself year to year via membership, ticketing and sponsorship on top of the normal AFL club distribution. Needing to rely on one-off government grants isn't viable and would be better served directed toward upgrading stadia to increase capacity for membership and ticketing income or towards club facilities.
 
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