Game Day Election Thread

[JAKLAUGHING]

Absolutely
That’s the thing
Australian conservatives and US conservatives are very different equations but as you said the assumption and associations stick be that good or bad

It’s still one of my biggest problems with the current political landscape the vast majority don’t know why they are voting for the person they are voting for they just do it generally because of family tradition or working class going red and blue collar going blue

That might of applied in the 70s and 80s but the landscape is completely different

I’ll always respect anyone to choose a party that resonates with them even if I disagree with the politics because at least they have made the time to make an informed choice instead of someone who votes similar to myself because “mum said we are a labor family”

Nahhh....
Times and attitudes are slowly changing...
Spesh here in Oz...
Despite the right wing bias in the media to try and make us all trumpeters...
We just like a fair go, bbq's and cold beer!

 

[The_Kraken]

Absolutely
That’s the thing
Australian conservatives and US conservatives are very different equations but as you said the assumption and associations stick be that good or bad

It’s still one of my biggest problems with the current political landscape the vast majority don’t know why they are voting for the person they are voting for they just do it generally because of family tradition or working class going red and blue collar going blue

That might of applied in the 70s and 80s but the landscape is completely different

I’ll always respect anyone to choose a party that resonates with them even if I disagree with the politics because at least they have made the time to make an informed choice instead of someone who votes similar to myself because “mum said we are a labor family”

The data tells a different story.

That the ALP and LNP primary votes are at record lows proves the opposite. Only Boomers are voting the way you state. Zoomers and Millennials are the reason Teals and independents are seeing their vote grow.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

The data tells a different story.

That the ALP and LNP primary votes are at record lows proves the opposite. Only Boomers are voting the way you state. Zoomers and Millennials are the reason Teals and independents are seeing their vote grow.

THIS...

 

[The_Kraken]

My interest in US Agricultural and Manufacturer has tripled in 2 months. Don’t believe all you read

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Left leaning, climate change believing. Yep.

How much does the climate affect your income ?
Do you think those who rely on climate for income , are worth listening to ?

 

[beema limapep]

The data tells a different story.

That the ALP and LNP primary votes are at record lows proves the opposite. Only Boomers are voting the way you state. Zoomers and Millennials are the reason Teals and independents are seeing their vote grow.

The younger demography have no foothold in teal territory.

Maybe in green areas.

 

[Muddiemoose]

The data tells a different story.

That the ALP and LNP primary votes are at record lows proves the opposite. Only Boomers are voting the way you state. Zoomers and Millennials are the reason Teals and independents are seeing their vote grow.

It is changing but only at a glacial pace

 

[Lsta062]

Who can honestly still support Labor in the current state of our country.
Economically personally and for small businesses?
Shame on Australia if Albo gets back in

Blame Dutton and the Liberal Party.

Whenever Dutton was asked about major issues like the housing crisis and the economy, he talked about how Albanese ruined this country too much and not enough about how he would fix the issues. From the policies he did propose, he just seemed out of touch with regular Australians.

Like him or not, Albanese made sure the Australian people knew what his promises were.

Just as an example, compare their proposals to fix the housing crisis.

Albanese:

• more houses
• 5% deposit
• 20% off HECS (helps pay off debt quicker, which gives them a higher borrowing capacity).
• for people earning at or below 100K, they get the option of giving 25% equity to the government. Not amazing tbh, but it means they borrow 25% less from the bank to buy a house. Makes the house much more affordable because they can buy a house for less and pay less per month.

Dutton:
- $50,000 deposit from Super.

Not perfect from Labor, but clearly Albanese understands what realistically gets younger people into the housing market. Compare that to Dutton. Which 20-something year old Australian has $50,000 in their super? There’ll probably be a few that do, but that’s it.

Same thing with the nuclear energy. Same thing with cutting public service (he’ll probably bring in more contractors, which costs more than paying people directly).

Australians just realised that Dutton doesn’t seem to understand how things work compared to Albanese. “Seem” is the important part here because the average Australian doesn’t dig very deeply into policy. They take the highlights and vote accordingly.

If Liberals want to win, then they should put forth candidates that understand regular Australians better and propose policies reflecting this. Otherwise, they’ll keep getting whooped. Especially as the younger generation becomes older.

This also applies to Labor as well tbh. People are starting to get sick of both parties, but Liberals are making it easy for Labor right now.

 

[dwwaino]

Keating once described Abbott as. “young fogey” and this is what I see when I look at someone like James Patterson. The trouble for the Liberals is that they offer nothing to young people. Worse, they run appalling (young) candidates like Amelia Hamer, who run around pretending to be a poor renter when they’re the beneficiary of a $20 million family trust.

Nobody is going to appeal to everybody all of the time. As a Liberal voter I feel they've lost tjeir identity and need a refresh to work it out. It wasn't that long ago that I thought the ALP were in a similar position when leaking votes to the Greens. I thought they were at risk of lurching left to chase them back but lose the middle and I think they've done a great job to stick to the middle and strengthen their position. Now I feel it has happened with the Libs, trying on one hand to stem the conservative vote bleeding to the meme parties while at the same time trying to be popularist to keep a handle on the middle. It's easy to say they just need to get back to that centre right/liberal conservative position but they need to rebrand as the word conservative holds negative connotations today even if it doesn't mean that in liberal conservatism.

I agree with Hamer (and this is hardly unique to the Liberals) but besides the most engaged most don't know or care much about their local candidate. I don't much about my local Liberal candidate but if I want to change government I have to vote against Mark Dreyfus (and I honestly have nothing against him, he's been here forever).

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I can sleep easy tonight...
Dutton has been removed from the Australian political arena...
Only several screaming fish wives to go!!!

 

[The_Kraken]

The younger demography have no foothold in teal territory.

Maybe in green areas.

Millennials and Zoomers are the largest voting demographic. Try again.

 

[The_Kraken]

I can sleep easy tonight...
Dutton has been removed from the Australian political arena...
Only several screaming fish wives to go!!!

Old people voting for Hanson does my head in. But I guess old people are gonna do what old people do.

 

[beema limapep]

How much does the climate affect your income ?
Do you think those who rely on climate for income , are worth listening to ?

Maybe my and others income are not first, 2nd and 3rd in importance to at least trying to not shit in our own back yard like a stingy campaigner in part.

Maybe it plays a part of consideration instead of being a raging selfish capitalist campaigner at every opportunity.

Get your snout and brain out of the trough.

 

[Truetiger]

I can sleep easy tonight...
Dutton has been removed from the Australian political arena...
Only several screaming fish wives to go!!!

as well as his own area
lol

 

[beema limapep]

Millennials and Zoomers are the largest voting demographic. Try again.

Combined - Just. But where do they live?

 

[The_Kraken]

It is changing but only at a glacial pace

The change has been seismic and fast. Honestly, both the LNP and Labor must be shitting bricks.

 

[Sol23]

Nahhh....
Times and attitudes are slowly changing...
Spesh here in Oz...
Despite the right wing bias in the media to try and make us all trumpeters...
We just like a fair go, bbq's and cold beer!

No to many like an easy handout and that why lab get in.

 

[Boxo004]

Left leaning, climate change believing. Yep.

Yep woke as ****. Good luck

 

[dwwaino]

The data tells a different story.

That the ALP and LNP primary votes are at record lows proves the opposite. Only Boomers are voting the way you state. Zoomers and Millennials are the reason Teals and independents are seeing their vote grow.

We're surely only a generation behind Europe where every election is a shit fight of 20 parties dealing with each other to form government.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

No to many like an easy handout and that why lab get in.

Subtitles plz!!!

 

[Groupie_]

duttos kids look scary

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

We're surely only a generation behind Europe where every election is a shit fight of 20 parties dealing with each other to form government.

Bring it on...
Much better chance of change...

 

[The_Kraken]

Combined - Just. But where do they live?

You’re asking where the largest demographic lives? Sure, they are over represented in inner-city seats, but that doesn’t mean they’re thin on the ground elsewhere.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

duttos kids look scary

Got his shark toothy grin...

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Use your other account ya weak campaigner