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Counterpoint:

Last season, the Reds finished 25 points off top spot and played in the Champions League final.

This season, they finished 1 point off top spot and will play in the Champions League final, perhaps even win it this time.

That's an acceptable upward trajectory,

It's hard to believe, but this was Naby Keita's, Allison Becker's and Fabinho's first year at Liverpool. Yep! It was VVD's first 18 months too, and look at the improvement in Joe Gomez and Joel Matip since his arrival. Trent AA is 20. No one bar Milner is nearing retirement and if he doesn't go home, he looks like he will play with us forever, tough sonovabitch that he is.

There's not one area that you could perceive as a weakness, how long have Reds fans waited to say that? No longer vulnerable at set plays or weak with corners, not one player in the first 11 we'd like to replace. Whenever I hear of players we're reportedly bringing in, no matter their pedigree, I'm always asking myself "Yeah but when/where would he play?" - that's a good sign. No one looks likely to defect to a "bigger" club. The manager doesn't look like he wants to leave, he's just signed a contract extension.

Off field the club is in the best health maybe it's ever been in, and we've been able to splash real cash for whomever we like for the last 2 years.

Robbo says "Man City know we are here to stay", Dejen says "We're coming!"

So finishing the 18-19 Premier League in 2nd place - 25 points higher than Chelsea in 3rd - is disappointing as a result, as part of the journey it's pretty cool. Now for that all important final 5% extra improvement.
A couple of great posts Austinn! I think the World Cup took it’s toll but you could argue that for City as well. I’d like to see us bring in another forward that we can rotate through the front three consistently, not just as back up. The front three work really hard and there were occasions that you could see Firmino and Salah had lost their edge.
That flat spot around January was disappointing. That’s when City dropped points as well. It’s something Klopp will no doubt prepare for.
I’m really looking forward to next season. There’s still some upside in that team. Ox back. Trent, Robbo, Gomez, Keita and Fabinho can all improve/grow. Maybe Origi.
It’s possible City have peaked, at least I’m hoping so!
 

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A couple of great posts Austinn! I think the World Cup took it’s toll but you could argue that for City as well. I’d like to see us bring in another forward that we can rotate through the front three consistently, not just as back up. The front three work really hard and there were occasions that you could see Firmino and Salah had lost their edge.
That flat spot around January was disappointing. That’s when City dropped points as well. It’s something Klopp will no doubt prepare for.
I’m really looking forward to next season. There’s still some upside in that team. Ox back. Trent, Robbo, Gomez, Keita and Fabinho can all improve/grow. Maybe Origi.
It’s possible City have peaked, at least I’m hoping so!
The points made by Austinn and your good self are more than valid. It’s an interesting point that you make about Salah & Firmino having “lost their edge”. Stats-wise you are spot-on, as Mo scored 32 in 2017-18 (He was something of an “unknown quantity”) However, I would argue that the side in 2018-19 became much less “Mo-centric” and in fact became a much more rounded unit.

It’s always difficult in the wake of such a narrow loss for the title, to see anything other than LFC going all the way next season, and who could argue? City were much the better side ultimately, because it was THEY who pegged back a seven-point deficit. It was THEY who won when they had to. It’s true that they lost more games than the Reds, but they WON more and drew less.... those SEVEN draws were what “did for” Liverpool’s title prospects..... the 0-0 at Goodison Park being the last time anyone took a point from the Reds. ( a game that needed to be won, and one in which Everton almost won )

I’m not totally convinced that “City have peaked” Pep Guardiola will NEVER allow them to become complacent...... However, there are fewer coaches better at motivating their side than Herr Klopp.
 
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Brian Clough must be beaming from ear to ear up there in heaven!!
It was a magical performance from the rams! Down 2-0 on agg at one point...incredible stuff. I thought Leeds were a lock for promotion, almost surreal seeing them miss out again. Villa will be pleased!
 

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Yes, Leeds United during the Revie era made choking in the BIG games an art form! Almost Collingwood-esque
Indeed! Or to use another example almost Liverpool-esque! ;)
Will they be celebrating their 30 year anniversary next season? :p
 
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Indeed! Or to use another example almost Liverpool-esque! ;)
Will they be celebrating their 30 year anniversary next season? :p
Liverpool have “won” a lot of things..... BUT.... have to pay due deference to the TRUE “Champions of the Choke” Leeds United. 1965..... missed out on League and FA Cup from being favourites. 1970 missed out on League, European Cup ( eliminated by Celtic ) lost the FA Cup to give Chelsea their first FA Cup. BUT.... the piece de resistance (drum roll) the 1973 FA Cup Final!!!!! Losing to “mighty”(?) Sunderland!
 

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I guess we can add another name to the “Chokers Hall of Shame”...... Perth Glory Spend the better part of the season atop the A League ladder. Qualify to host the Grand Final in front of a partisan 56k crowd. Still manage to lose in a penalty shootout!
Almost ALP-esque?
 
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