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Enright is overrated

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Meh, he's average.

But because like nearly everyone was playing sub-average in that particular match he stood out.
I say, stick him the VFL a few more matches, if he goes better than usual, stick him back in AFL side.
But right now we need to educate Linga a bit more, he has a few patches of brilliance, but most of the time is spent like a deer in headlights. Maybe spend some time with him and Shannon Byrnes doing some 'How to play on the Wing basics' lessons. They both could use that. And a heck of a lot more target practice sessons at training.

Maybe we should get them orthopedic (I'm not sure about that word, sorry if I spelt it wrong!) shoes and maybe they'll stop being so flat footed.
 
From an outsiders perspective, I actually think Enright is a good solid player. Finds plenty of the ball, has decent vision, and goes a lot harder at it than some people are giving him credit for.

Also good to see Charlie Gardiner play pretty well last night - worked very hard and constantly provided an option. Clearly on his last chance but I hope both for him and the club he can stand up this year.
 
GeeCat said:
In fact, to be honest, I'm not sure what your point is. We can't have every player throw their body into the contest and have no one hanging off the packs for the quick handball out.
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My point is this. I too have seen Enright put his body on the line when he has been involuntarily put into the situation... so what. Guys who get hard ball gets win games buddy, and he gets squat. Example.. J.Hunt copped loads for pulling out of a contest, yes, but he does bust packs and he will throw is body into them and get the hard ball. And YES!! you can have all your midfielders going in for it!! At any one time no more than 2 guys per team would be fighting for the same ball/situation anyway, therefore there are always recievers.

GeeCat said:
The distinguishing point (at least to me) has always been that, when the time calls for it, the player is prepared to put his body on the line. Boris has done so in the past.
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So what??? Lets see him voluntarily go in hard at the ball. I could accept Enright's bad points if he hurt the opposition, but he just plain doesn't!! Kicking long but poor/innaccurate to leading forwards + 20 uncontested possesions a game.. As I've said before, this bloke only looks good when we are winning!
 
martyk said:
So what??? Lets see him voluntarily go in hard at the ball. I could accept Enright's bad points if he hurt the opposition, but he just plain doesn't!! Kicking long but poor/innaccurate to leading forwards + 20 uncontested possesions a game.. As I've said before, this bloke only looks good when we are winning!
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Amen brother.
 

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cats2rise said:
Enright looks to go long when he gets the ball. Thats what we need. Not another player who will do this dinky little kicks.
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Not when it comes back just as quick because Boris has haphazardly bombed away straight to the opposition as he does most of the time.

If Enright goes, the GFC are in no better position that what we were in 2005 and 2006. Atleast half a dozen players need to go before him.
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He'd be in the first 5 I'd move on. I said it last year and even though it's only the NAB Cup, things don't appear to have changed.

Sam Hunt > Enright. Not a great comparison size wise, but they both play similar roles.
 
martyk said:
My point is this. I too have seen Enright put his body on the line when he has been involuntarily put into the situation... so what. Guys who get hard ball gets win games buddy, and he gets squat. Example.. J.Hunt copped loads for pulling out of a contest, yes, but he does bust packs and he will throw is body into them and get the hard ball. And YES!! you can have all your midfielders going in for it!! At any one time no more than 2 guys per team would be fighting for the same ball/situation anyway, therefore there are always recievers.
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If you honestly think Enright is as soft as you've made him out to be, then that's your call. For what it's worth, I wouldn't have a clue where you drew that conclusion from.
 
GeeCat said:
If you honestly think Enright is as soft as you've made him out to be, then that's your call. For what it's worth, I wouldn't have a clue where you drew that conclusion from.
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Then I want to know where you got your info from!
I sincerely in my years of watching footy, have not seen Corey Enright actually seriously go for the ball if there was a risk of hurting himself. Seriously!
He's like me playing soccer, it's all about self preservation there!
Not really even going for the ball, only chasing it if it comes towards him, or within about 2m of him.
 
GeeCat said:
If you honestly think Enright is as soft as you've made him out to be, then that's your call. For what it's worth, I wouldn't have a clue where you drew that conclusion from.
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In 2006 Enright averaged 1.4 contested possessions per game (22 total), which is the lowest of all Geelong midfielders. AND, I actually take notice of what is going on during a game other than where the ball is.

2006 - Contested Possessions
Chris Judd - Avg 5 per game
Daniel Kerr - Avg 3.9 per game
These 2 guys are the best mid-fielders in the comp... starting to get the picture yet???

Next time you go to a game (not TV) watch Enright in and around the packs, compared to the likes of Kelly, Bartel etc. Do this and you will understand my point / learn more about the game too... ;)
 
Kittenish said:
Then I want to know where you got your info from!
I sincerely in my years of watching footy, have not seen Corey Enright actually seriously go for the ball if there was a risk of hurting himself. Seriously!
He's like me playing soccer, it's all about self preservation there!
Not really even going for the ball, only chasing it if it comes towards him, or within about 2m of him.
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Coming from someone who gave J Hunt votes for beiing a 'trooper'.. sorry, I can not take you seriously. Another Teeny Bopper poster from what I have seen.

Whats with all this "he needs to go in for the hard ball?" He dives over the ball and did atleast twice last night. Also, we do not need every player dto throw them selves at the ball in ball ups etc.... you need a few players to go in and get the hard ball, and you need receivers to then get the ball and run with it...
 
cats2rise said:
Coming from someone who gave J Hunt votes for beiing a 'trooper'.. sorry, I can not take you seriously. Another Teeny Bopper poster from what I have seen.
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my 2 cents... J.Hunt was possibly our best before he was injured. In a pack of players who couldn't hit any targets in the first half, he was spot on and very clean / made good decisions. And for the record I'm not a teeny bopper.

cats2rise said:
Whats with all this "he needs to go in for the hard ball?" He dives over the ball and did atleast twice last night. Also, we do not need every player dto throw them selves at the ball in ball ups etc.... you need a few players to go in and get the hard ball, and you need receivers to then get the ball and run with it...
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So wrong I'm afraid. Every mid-fielder at AFL level needs to have both the qualities you speak of to be considered a decent player, therefore whoever is close to the ball, attacks it, while the others wait to recieve. Why make special acceptions for players (Enright) who won't get the hard ball?
 
cats2rise said:
Disagree.
He 'bombs haphazardly' when we have been stuffing around with it to get it out of the danger area. When he has time, he will look for options.
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Pfft... No idea again.

Brisbane had the flood going, the dome looked like bloody Bangladesh!! You don't bomb the ball into a flooded forward line, weight of numbers will provail 9 times out of 10. Simple. Anyone can bomb a 50m kick into forward 50, it ain't that hard. We need more guys who have the ability to hit leading targets, which is one are where our midfielders struggle (especially Enright) and is the reason why Thompson wants J.Hunt to push up the ground.
 
martyk said:
So wrong I'm afraid. Every mid-fielder at AFL level needs to have both the qualities you speak of to be considered a decent player, therefore whoever is close to the ball, attacks it, while the others wait to recieve. Why make special acceptions for players (Enright) who won't get the hard ball?
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He will get the hard ball when needed but he is more of a reciever though, and a good one at that.
 

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cats2rise said:
He will get the hard ball when needed but he is more of a reciever though, and a good one at that.
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Ok then. I'm interested in what is deemed to be a "good reciever". As I've said, he doesn't hurt the opposition with his kicks so explain.

At least known softy reciever Ryan Lonie hurts opposition with his kicks.. Get it?
 
He is known as a 'defensive midfielder', or in other terms he is a HBF who will run through the midfield.

A good reciever is someone who is willing to run with the ball, go in hard when needed, and kick long to direct contests. Enright does that in my opinion.

Not every single bloody midfielder needs to go in for the loose ball. What happens when the opposition get the ball and look up to find 4 opponents in the clear streaming forward? It happened atleast 6 times last night. They got the clearance and had players running forward.

We do not need every player in the pack looking for the ball. We need a few outside the pack, waiting for either a) the quick handball to then kick forward etc or b) if the opposition get the ball they do not have a free run forward.
 
cats2rise said:
He is known as a 'defensive midfielder', or in other terms he is a HBF who will run through the midfield.

A good reciever is someone who is willing to run with the ball, go in hard when needed, and kick long to direct contests. Enright does that in my opinion.
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In todays game where flooding is very common, especially against Geelong because its very effective, you need --
1. Guys going in hard at the ball (You can crap on about Enright "going hard when needed" all you want.. garbage) flooding means lots of stoppages, receivers useless. We consistantly get beaten in clearances, Enright contributes to this in a big way.
2. Accurate disposers of the ball. Long bombing kicks don't work. Low, hard, flat kicks hit chests.

But hey, when teams play us one on one (rare), him and Wojak look great prancing their **** down the wings... Respect = 0
 
chapmanmagic35 said:
But is it me, or is Corey Enright hopelessly overrated?
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I love a good bump.

Sorry chappy, it's just you! ;)

PS. And martyk, of course. But he loves being wrong :D
 
chapmanmagic35 said:
I give a fair bit to Wojcinski on this forum, and rightly so in my opinion, but thus far he hasn't done too much wrong in 2007.

I also give a fair bit to Josh Hunt, and like Wojcinski, he hasn't done a whole heap wrong thus far.

But is it me, or is Corey Enright hopelessly overrated?

His disposal is very, very average, his brain (if it exists) is never in tune, and he just looks lost at times.

"Let's just bomb it long to no-one"

For Geelong to succeed in 2007, the middle rang players have to stand up. I'm not very confident they will.
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short answer: just u

TC:eek:
 
Enright is amazing, and Hunt is awesome. Anyone who supports Geelong could not possibly support Geelong or watch football properly. Composure, Class and Damage. They epitomise our defense.
 

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