EPL Matchday 13 - On Optus Sport

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SM

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I thought that too but they all won the same title.
 

Red Black and Blue

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Need to adjust FFP rules to only teams inside of CL and EL. It is an absolute joke we have a squad this sh*t and can’t spend.
 

SM

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Need to adjust FFP rules to only teams inside of CL and EL. It is an absolute joke we have a squad this sh*t and can’t spend.

Then don't spend money on sh*t players.

You paid Silva 11m to sack him which doesn't help things either.
 

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Then don't spend money on sh*t players.

You paid Silva 11m to sack him which doesn't help things either.

That is entirely against the purpose of the rule... the spirit of the rule is its there to stop the rich getting richer. Clearly needs modifications based on reality.
 

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SM

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That is entirely against the purpose of the rule... the spirit of the rule is its there to stop the rich getting richer. Clearly needs modifications based on reality.

Is the spirit of the rule not to stop people just throwing massive amounts of money at the wall and the club going bust? If Everton were allowed to continue to rack up huge losses and then somehow found themselves relegated, would they not be in massive financial trouble?
 

Red Black and Blue

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Is the spirit of the rule not to stop people just throwing massive amounts of money at the wall and the club going bust? If Everton were allowed to continue to rack up huge losses and then somehow found themselves relegated, would they not be in massive financial trouble?

We are about to be relegated with a 700 million dollar stadium debt coming because we can’t buy players...
 

SM

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We are about to be relegated with a 700 million dollar stadium debt coming because we can’t buy players...

But you have debt because you bought sh*t players..

The stadium debt has nothing to do with it because FFP doesn't block that spend.
 

Lunchlady Doris

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We are about to be relegated with a 700 million dollar stadium debt coming because we can’t buy players...

I'll allow it.

There's got to be some sort of consequence for spunking millions on sh*t players, apart from clubs with owners with bottomless pockets throwing more money at it.
 

Red Black and Blue

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But you have debt because you bought sh*t players..

The stadium debt has nothing to do with it because FFP doesn't block that spend.

Yes but which is more relevant to the club going bust? Which as you said is the purpose of the FFP rules.

200 million in player spend or 700 million spend in stadium spend?
 

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I'll allow it.

There's got to be some sort of consequence for spunking millions on sh*t players, apart from clubs with owners with bottomless pockets throwing more money at it.

Which is the real purpose of the FFP rules despite it saying otherwise, to insulate the rich clubs from wealthy investment below.
 

SM

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Yes but which is more relevant to the club going bust? Which as you said is the purpose of the FFP rules.

200 million in player spend or 700 million spend in stadium spend?

I reckon investing in capital like the new stadium isn't going to make the club go bust as it's an asset for the club, not players that you overpay for and burn money on sacking managers.

Overspending on more players and more sh*t managers won't help.
 

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I reckon investing in capital like the new stadium isn't going to make the club go bust as it's an asset for the club, not players that you overpay for and burn money on sacking managers.

Overspending on more players and more sh*t managers won't help.

Except players are assets, can't sell a player for a premium if they are in an unperforming team. Need to bring in more players to protect the other players asset value.
 

SM

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Except players are assets, can't sell a player for a premium if they are in an unperforming team. Need to bring in more players to protect the other players asset value.

A player is an asset until they play for two years, turn out to be sh*t, and wind down their contract and leave for free, all the while sucking you dry of a whole bunch of money in wages. A stadium - if constructed properly of course - isn't going to get written off and is an asset that can attract new investment if need be.
 

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