EPL Matchday 13

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UnitedWarrior93

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Phil Jones wasn't bad in his first two seasons under Fergie. Ok probably the first. Would make powerful speedy runs, get assists, defend reasonably. Or its all in my imagination
He was decent under SAF, has never been a solid defender and is just incredible he is still at the club.
 

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Humans make errors. Clearly this linesman believed there was an offside offence. He waited until the play finished before flagging which was also the correct thing to do. Can't blame the lino at all in this instance.
If he thought that was clearly offside then either that's a bigger worry because he is seeing things . Sterling was barely proven to be offside by a computer with a margin for error so how he could think it's clearly offside is beyond me.

This is a lot like the Son goal against Leicester. At least on that occasssion the linesman didn't guess or get it massively wrong because it's not clearly offside and again a computer show's its less than the few cms that it guesses itself.
 

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If he thought that was clearly offside then either that's a bigger worry because he is seeing things . Sterling was barely proven to be offside by a computer with a margin for error so how he could think it's clearly offside is beyond me.

This is a lot like the Son goal against Leicester. At least on that occasssion the linesman didn't guess or get it massively wrong because it's not clearly offside and again a computer show's its less than the few cms that it guesses itself.
Flagging after the play is fine, He's just telling the ref he reckons VAR should check for offside. As long as he doesn't flag during the play, which he didn't.
 

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Flagging after the play is fine, He's just telling the ref he reckons VAR should check for offside. As long as he doesn't flag during the play, which he didn't.
He doesn't need to flag anything VAR checks all goals
 

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Onto today's VAR controversy. How's McBurnie's that different to Gabriel Jesus against Spurs earlier this season or Sissoko in the CL final? I think I might have read the rules changed between seasons so maybe that's why today's and Sissoko's were different but Jesus' and this one?
 

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He doesn't need to flag anything VAR checks all goals
It's just a bit of visual communication. When the players and fans see a flag up straight away when the play ends then everyone knows immediately it's a possibility it could be offside, rather than celebrating for 30 seconds and then having a review out of the blue.
 

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If he thought that was clearly offside then either that's a bigger worry because he is seeing things . Sterling was barely proven to be offside by a computer with a margin for error so how he could think it's clearly offside is beyond me.

This is a lot like the Son goal against Leicester. At least on that occasssion the linesman didn't guess or get it massively wrong because it's not clearly offside and again a computer show's its less than the few cms that it guesses itself.
You keep saying clearly as if a linesman has to think there's space between the attacker and defender. Give it a rest or learn the rules. This line of argument is bizarre.
 

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Onto today's VAR controversy. How's McBurnie's that different to Gabriel Jesus against Spurs earlier this season or Sissoko in the CL final? I think I might have read the rules changed between seasons so maybe that's why today's and Sissoko's were different but Jesus' and this one?
Its a fine line but I think Laporte was arm, McBurnie more shoulder. Not much in it though and I was expecting it to be ruled out.

It's another rule that just doesn't work. One rule for an attacker, totally different one for a defender. That can't be right.

Scrap it.
 

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Its a fine line but I think Laporte was arm, McBurnie more shoulder. Not much in it though and I was expecting it to be ruled out.

It's another rule that just doesn't work. One rule for an attacker, totally different one for a defender. That can't be right.

Scrap it.
Lets not take away from the joy of it being allowed but I can't see how that was less handball than Laporte's. If anything this would be worse because it directly helped the goalscorer, Laporte's could have gone anywhere
 

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He does, because it's exactly what you began by wanting, that is, refs indicating their call to allow for an "umpires call" system.
But his call is either a guess or he thought something was clear that wasn't. Either way it's a bad call because it's not a clear offside and the computer proved that
 

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Its a fine line but I think Laporte was arm, McBurnie more shoulder. Not much in it though and I was expecting it to be ruled out.

It's another rule that just doesn't work. One rule for an attacker, totally different one for a defender. That can't be right.

Scrap it.
Agree that it should be scrapped, gives unfair advantage to the defending team. Treat all handballs the same no matter what part of the field.
 

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Lets not take away from the joy of it being allowed but I can't see how that was less handball than Laporte's. If anything this would be worse because it directly helped the goalscorer, Laporte's could have gone anywhere
The new rule states any contact with the arm that creates a goalscoring opportunity by the attacking team must be penalised. Stupid rule for me.
 

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