EPL Matchday 3 - On Optus Sport

[Zidane98]

I'm presuming that was just tv footage timing. If not, it did seem very quick, almost as if his mind was made up before he saw the footage.

He looked unsighted for the incident so was probably told over the radio that there was a handball and quickly wanted to confirm it himself on the screen.

 

[Raveneyes]

Anyway I'll walk back my kissed on the dick comments cause I hate arguing refs but frustrating that it probably ruins the spectacle

Have to agree, would rather 11 on 11 for the challenge and entertainment, but ecstatic all the same with the enhanced prospect of the 3 points.

 

[Topkent]

anyway all that could have been avoided if Alonso didn't head the ball out of Mendy's hands.

Had to go for a corner at worst.

 

[RossFC]

Change the rule and make it a yellow card if it deflects onto the arm like that.

 

[Loonerty]

Think Timo has to come on, for one of Havertz/Mount. And hope like hell that Kante and Jorginho's niggles don't get worse.
Maybe bring Silva on as well somewhere.

 

[Coasters7]

Looking at it again his arm "pushed" away from goal as the ball hit his arm.

It's an instinctive movement for sure, but does look deliberate, even though his intention may have been different.

Looks worse than it is in slow mo. He twists his whole body to scrounge it out. It looks bad because his arm swings. It’s far too harsh to have both the penalty and a red card for something as innocuous as that. That’s the same punishment as a defender sticking his entire arm out in a goalkeeping save. Referee should be using a bit of discretion here imo. Looked at it for half a second and decided to change the entire game.

 

[Visions]

anyway all that could have been avoided if Alonso didn't head the ball out of Mendy's hands.

Or if Matip had just tapped it in from point blank in the first place.

 

[Topkent]

Change the rule and make it a yellow card if it deflects onto the arm like that.

I don't that's the issue, its been deemed a deliberate goal scoring deny that's the reason for the red.

 

[Loonerty]

Silva and Kovacic on for Havertz and Kante.

I was half right.

 

[Topkent]

Jeez I think Werner with Lukaku on the counter was the way to go.

 

[jod23]

It's the correct decision, it's unlucky but he deliberately moves his hand and forces the ball forward, cos it's going in otherwise.

 

[Loonerty]

Jeez I think Werner with Lukaku on the counter was the way to go.

Yup that's what I thought too. But Kante must have been feeling off.

 

[Raveneyes]

Looks worse than it is in slow mo. He twists his whole body to scrounge it out. It looks bad because his arm swings. It’s far too harsh to have both the penalty and a red card for something as innocuous as that. That’s the same punishment as a defender sticking his entire arm out in a goalkeeping save. Referee should be using a bit of discretion here imo. Looked at it for half a second and decided to change the entire game.

Agree it's harsh, but others here said intention doesn't matter if the hand/arm stops a certain goal.
Obviously why Taylor didn't need much time to decide when viewing VAR.

Perhaps the rule should be looked at come seasons end.

 

[Topkent]

Yup that's what I thought too. But Kante must have been feeling off.

Kinda forgot you still had to 'replace' James

 

[Topkent]

Dont like Chelsea's 5-3-1. There's no counter risk for Liverpool they can keep TAA and Robbo basically at the corner flag.

 

[Loonerty]

Chilwell back in for the next game pls

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It's the correct decision, it's unlucky but he deliberately moves his hand and forces the ball forward, cos it's going in otherwise.

lol come on take off your rose tinted glasses. Deliberate is a tenuous claim at best.

Correctly adjudicating a s**t rule certainly but deliberate. Nah not having that.. And I hate these little bastards.

 

[bok_party]

Looking at it again his arm "pushed" away from goal as the ball hit his arm.

It's an instinctive movement for sure, but does look deliberate, even though his intention may have been different.

What? It’s hit his arm, bounced off and then he’s moved it. He hasn’t pushed it with his arm at all.

 

[Zidane98]

Mendy playing a blinder.

 

[Loonerty]

Rom will score one of those chances but I feel like Timo is the guy to put alongside him for it.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

How can Alonso go from looking like a world beater to like he's never played football in his life within 5 minutes.

 

[Raveneyes]

What? It’s hit his arm, bounced off and then he’s moved it. He hasn’t pushed it with his arm at all.

Not what I said, but it's semantics.

Either way, I understand that it's a red regardless of intention.

 

[Raveneyes]

How can Alonso go from looking like a world beater to like he's never played football in his life within 5 minutes.

Goes down more often than Lana Rhoades, but has stopped a couple of Salah runs.

 

[Topkent]

Chelsea need to change something, they literally have nothing to pass too when they look up

 

[Topkent]

Mount off Werner on.