EPL Matchday 3

[bok_party]

To be fair, I felt the defensive first half we played was done fairly well. You know Liverpool is gonna have the lions share of possession and I didn’t feel like every shot was threatening.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Kind of heartening in a way to see that the AFL isn't the only pro football league in the world with farcical umpire / ref interpretations changing from season to season.

The recent penalty handball thing has been really bad but I don't think it compares to the every season rule changes and interpretations in AFL.

There are so many calls in AFL that are subjective and collectively can determine the result.

 

[hawkman]

If light of the recent penalties for handball, surely Jota's goal should have been chalked off. He controled it with his arm. Did VAR knock off early for the night?

 

[jod23]

Another brilliant game by Jack Grealish this morning. Dangerous every time he got the ball and tracked back too. He's better than Foden, Maddison, Oxlade Chamberpot, Mount, Barkley, Hudson-Odoi. England should be building a team round him not just giving him a few minutes at the end of games.

Grealish is good but Foden is different level.

 

[jod23]

If light of the recent penalties for handball, surely Jota's goal should have been chalked off. He controled it with his arm. Did VAR knock off early for the night?

Hits his shoulder, not his arm. It was fine. Great finish too.

 

[hawkman]

Hit's his shoulder, not his arm. It was fine. Great finish too.

Looks like arm to me

 

[kreglze]

Ehh I thought we were OK value, 2-1 till the 89th minute against a clearly superior team, and not the thumping we have had in the past up there. That isn't the game that is going to define our season, games coming up against Leicester and United will be ones that I will mark our level against, other competitors for top 4. Lacazette needs to bury that 1v1 though. People will point to the fact he did score but he doesn't do enough IMO. Would rather Nketiah who gets around more.

We also desperately need midfield reinforcements, I enjoy El Neny's escapades, but he should not be starting against Liverpool at all.

 

[SM]

Looks like arm to me

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They changed the categorisation of that.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Looks like arm to me

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Clear handball under the current rules.

 

[Zidane98]

Looks like arm to me

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Look at the reverse angle. Off his thigh onto his chest.

 

[Pykie]

They changed the categorisation of that.

Yes, to below the sleeve.

Handball imo.

 

[SM]

Yes, to below the sleeve.

Handball imo.

Are we looking at the same image?

 

[Frank Bunn]

Grealish is good but Foden is different level.

Foden might become a very good player. But Jack is already that player.

 

[ADL9798]

Looks like arm to me

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Looks like thigh => chest/shoulder then down to me.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Are we looking at the same image?

The one where he's using his arm to control the ball.....Time for a visit to OPSM champ.

 

[Procrastinator35]

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Looks like thigh => chest/shoulder then down to me.

Ball is clearly in contact with his arm below his shirt sleeve.

Collective denial in overkill here.

 

[hawkman]

Are we looking at the same image?

I think it starts below the sleeve and comes up the arm

When did they change that interpretation? Everything i've read is up to the arm pit

 

[SM]

I think it starts below the sleeve and comes up the arm

When did they change that interpretation? Everything i've read is up to the arm pit

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Looks like thigh => chest/shoulder then down to me.

It changed to this in the offseason I believe.

 

[hawkman]

It changed to this in the offseason I believe.

Is that only if your arm is by your side? I imagine it wouldn't be for something like it hit Dier's sleeves the way his arms were

 

[Pykie]

Are we looking at the same image?

Yes? Are you?

The center of the ball i.e where it physically has to be in contact with Jota is below the sleeve line. So yes, it's a handball.




When you watch the live slowmow, it appears to almost touch his wrist before going up his arm, it definitely deviates down low. When I watched it live from the long shot, it looked a handball as well, it bobbles off his forearm which is tight to his thigh and up to his chest/bicep, which is again a handball.

 

[hawkman]

It is one of those ones where i thought immediately it was mostly chest but it also hit the arm which helped control the ball.

Normally i would say that should be let go but not after what happened over the weekend if they

 

[SM]

Is that only if your arm is by your side? I imagine it wouldn't be for something like it hit Dier's sleeves the way his arms were

No, the definition of arm changed, regardless of posture.

 

[hawkman]

Also what happens if it hits a keeper on the arm outside the area how do they determine the sleeve since they are generally long sleeved?

 

[Zidane98]

Yes? Are you?

The center of the ball i.e where it physically has to be in contact with Jota is below the sleeve line. So yes, it's a handball.

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When you watch the live slowmow, it appears to almost touch his wrist before going up his arm, it definitely deviates down low. When I watched it live from the long shot, it looked a handball as well, it bobbles off his forearm which is tight to his thigh and up to his chest/bicep, which is again a handball.

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A better angle for you

 

[Magma]

which pixel is the ball and which is his arm