EPL Matchday 9

[SM]

I think it’s a problem in all sports. Cricket and AFL are the same. If we’re going to use video to make critical match defining calls then we need to make sure it works how it’s supposed to, just creates more problems otherwise. Either have it working flawlessly or scrap it completely and let the guys who are paid to officiate do their jobs. Would much rather a wrong call due to human error than a wrong call from something that is supposed to reduce that same human error. Video also reduces quality of the refs/umpires in general as they always have that fallback and can get a bit complacent.

Thing is.. the EPL is predominantly letting the refs officiate, and people are complaining about it.

The threshold is 'clear and obvious' and the EPL has clearly defined obvious a lot higher than most other leagues. They've done so consistently as I don't think I've seen on-field refs overturned about much in the way of non-penalty calls.

 

[apollo_creed]

Thing is.. the EPL is predominantly letting the refs officiate, and people are complaining about it.

You say that but there were two decisions (goals) overturned last night which were not clear and obvious errors and there was one which was (definitely moreso) and should’ve been a penalty. That isn’t consistent.

And they have not applied decisions re: handball with any consistency either. goals chalked off with handballs, goals not chalked off - seems to change depending on the team/var adjudicator. The handball one is very easy as well - the law has been changed so var shouldnt be applying this inconsistently.

 

[SM]

You say that but there were two decisions (goals) overturned last night which were not clear and obvious errors and there was one which was (definitely moreso) and should’ve been a penalty. That isn’t consistent.

And they have not applied decisions re: handball with any consistency either. goals chalked off with handballs, goals not chalked off - seems to change depending on the team/var adjudicator. The handball one is very easy as well - the law has been changed so var shouldnt be applying this inconsistently.

I guess I'm more thinking with penalty decisions but you're right they do weigh in on goals when there's technicalities.

 

[Sozabarus]

It's kind of weird that the anti-VAR crowd's biggest complaint about VAR in the PL is that it isn't being used enough.

That's not what's happening though. If VAR wasn't used for the Vertonghen challenge then we'd all get on with it, but it was used. It caused a lengthy delay in the game and still wasn't overturned.

 

[SM]

That's not what's happening though. If VAR wasn't used for the Vertonghen challenge then we'd all get on with it, but it was used. It caused a lengthy delay in the game and still wasn't overturned.

Because they're checking? I'm not saying they aren't using VAR, I'm saying they aren't overturning decisions.

 

[Zidane98]

That's not what's happening though. If VAR wasn't used for the Vertonghen challenge then we'd all get on with it, but it was used. It caused a lengthy delay in the game and still wasn't overturned.

It didnt intervene so technically wasnt used. If the penalty was given VAR would not have reversed the decision. In this case VAR simply deferred to the onfield referees judgement. Which is stupid because any reasonable person says that's a pen.

 

[jod23]

Jodly SM is right on how you post re: Spurs. A little more humility wouldnt go astray when talking about Spurs on here.

Err why? The Spurs lads on here... it's been quite the rivalry over the years for whatever reason.

Spurs have been shite. Why can't we talk about it?!

 

[jod23]

95% of Jod’s post these last few months are inane nonsense.

From this crap to the bleeding obvious Liverpool posts. “Need to keep winning” “I hope ____ beats City”.

Yep we get it Jod.

I didn't even say anything that bad. Just a bunch of cry babies I guess.

 

[moomba]

What's the point of VAR if you're got a threshold that's so ridiculously high that bad decisions don't get overturned.

 

[jod23]

No Mo...

 

[joop]

Seen that called a foul many times, but glad United are ahead. Will make for a better game.

 

[joop]

Now a handball!

 

[moomba]

Don't like the rule but think it had to be ruled out.

Didn't think there was much in the foul either.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Its probably called a foul more times than not. I’m happy it not to be paid and wish it wasn’t paid more often. Can understand the frustration. Very slight contact, Origi just threw himself forward because it was an awful touch from him.

 

[jod23]

Atkinson and VAR getting United's season back on track.

 

[bok_party]

Atkinson and VAR getting United's season back on track.

Liverpool have been very mediocre today anyway. Can’t be blaming VAR

 

[kozi]

Pool finally copping the raw end from Video Assistant Roulette

 

[Gameova_]

I wouldn't of overturned the decision if I was a neutral. I can see them being given and not given at times. We've been second best by far.

 

[Bradesmaen]

How many clean sheets for Liverpool? It's like going back to two years ago

 

[RPCB]

Just totally leave Lallana with a free run at it. Hell of a plan.

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

Yeah only one team can win it in injury time and it ain't the home side.

 

[RPCB]

OMG, so lucky. Hit Fred’s shoulder.

 

[Indie_]

Have to take that all things considering. We played like dogshit til about 75.

 

[moomba]

Could have sworn that was handball on first viewing.

Good to claw back a few points, happy we've still got the consecutive wins record too.

 

[RPCB]

Could have sworn that was handball on first viewing.

Good to claw back a few points, happy we've still got the consecutive wins record too.

Yeah, that happened so fast that watching it live I was sure it hit Fred’s hand.