Recommitted Esava Ratugolea [OOC 2023] - Ended up staying at Geelong

[CatToTheFuture]

Seems like the type of trade where both clubs will want to make it painless for the player.

Doubt Geelong will ask for much and no doubt Port will find a way to offer a pick Geelong will actually use.

Honestly, no idea if this will work out but we desperately need a big key defender so Ratugolea will get every chance.

I think he'll be serviceable for you as a 1-1 defender but you'll just be running players to get back and help him with generating rebound

 

[Schulzenfest]

Yeah agree with that. I think though Sav as steak knives with 38 for a f2nd might be getting closer.

On his own though it'll be a token pick

We can't trade our future second whether we wanted to or not. Future first will go as part of the JHF deal, and AFL rules say you can't trade both.

Either Geelong will agree to take a late pick for him or it won't get done, Port just have too many other higher priorities to have much left to give for Esava. But to be frank, given the absolute gifts that will be going to Geelong from elsewhere this trade period, helping a fringe player get to his club of choice on the cheap feels like the least they could do. Hell, you could give us Ratugolea for free and throw in pick 7 on top and you'd still be coming out of this trade period with a net win.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We can't trade our future second whether we wanted to or not. Future first will go as part of the JHF deal, and AFL rules say you can't trade both.

Either Geelong will agree to take a late pick for him or it won't get done, Port just have too many other higher priorities to have much left to give for Esava. But to be frank, given the absolute gifts that will be going to Geelong from elsewhere this trade period, helping a fringe player get to his club of choice on the cheap feels like the least they could do. Hell, you could give us Ratugolea for free and throw in pick 7 on top and you'd still be coming out of this trade period with a net win.

Ah that'll kill that then.

Pick we won't use it is then

 

[Ash1337]

Port give future 2nd and 43 for Ratugolea and 38.

Port give future first, 8, 33, 38 to Eagles for 2, future 2nd and Rioli

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

He'd get a game straight away for us.

We desperately need a genuinely big KPD.

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He can't kick.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

He'd walk straight into that Port side. We under rate him far too much.

Josh Walker Mk2

 

[Revan11]

He can't kick.

As long as he can mark and spoil, and not get monstered by the gorilla KPFs.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Josh Walker Mk2

LOL Sav has more athletic ability in his left toe than josh walker.
As a defender he will easily hold his own up against most opposing big fellas.
Let's just hope we don't get injuries to our tall fellas. As the cupboard is bare after Neale.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

He can't kick.

Neither can Blitz but yet he is an AA/Premiership/B&F winner... Go figure.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Neither can Blitz but yet he is an AA/Premiership/B&F winner... Go figure.

Blitz.kicked s goal early on around the corner in the gf. Sav struggles to kick them from 10m out directly in front.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

As long as he can mark and spoil, and not get monstered by the gorilla KPFs.

Like I said, he can do that but you'll need your wings to do defensive running to give him options to support because he's not going to make low % kicks.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Blitz.kicked s goal early on around the corner in the gf. Sav struggles to kick them from 10m out directly in front.

Wow...lol. He kicked one around the corner in GF. That has convinced the world he has good food skills... hahaha C'mon man u can do better than that.
Oops no, not on this argument as we all know he(Blitz) is a shocking kick.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Josh Walker Mk2

That would be a good result for Port.

 

[The 747]

We can't trade our future second whether we wanted to or not. Future first will go as part of the JHF deal, and AFL rules say you can't trade both.

Either Geelong will agree to take a late pick for him or it won't get done, Port just have too many other higher priorities to have much left to give for Esava. But to be frank, given the absolute gifts that will be going to Geelong from elsewhere this trade period, helping a fringe player get to his club of choice on the cheap feels like the least they could do. Hell, you could give us Ratugolea for free and throw in pick 7 on top and you'd still be coming out of this trade period with a net win.

1 We have not secured any of those players yet

2 Just because we run our club well does not mean Port gets a bonus, it doesn't work like that

3 We won't ask much but if Port want a contracted and required player they need to do some work to ensure a decent outcome

4 No chance he is a second rounder, but maybe something can be done with our surplus picks

 

[Schulzenfest]

Just because Gold Coast run their club terribly does not mean Port gets a bonus, it doesn't work like that

Fixed up that second point for you.

 

[The 747]

Fixed up that second point for you.

From a Geelong perspective I approve of their list management.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Fixed up that second point for you.

I'm sure the gold coast list fairy will visit all good kids eventually

 

[rabidcrow]

Port give future 2nd and 43 for Ratugolea and 38.

Port give future first, 8, 33, 38 to Eagles for 2, future 2nd and Rioli

That’s a horrendous deal for WCE. Essentially a bad deal for two with the 8 and future 1 - and a worst deal for Rioli. Assume WC F2 is 22 you’re suggesting 22 and Rioli for 33 and 38?

22 would be worth more than those two picks by itself so WC would be paying for the privilege of Rioli playing for Port?


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[Jetafl]

Good move Port! I think Sav will do well down back. He has the height and athleticism/strength to play on the King/Lynch/Hawkins/Mckay’s of the world which is probably the only real area and weakness you’ve struggled with in your top 4 run.
Frees up Allir to roam now

I think Esava is a great fit/get for Port. Both down back on the monster KPF's but I also think in the Ruck he could do a job aka Stanley like and allows Aliir to be more attacking. But also, would free up Finlayson as given he is not a ruckman he was more than okay at it.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

We can't trade out our F2 but maybe swapping F2s with Geelong might help grease the wheel along with a late pick this year?

We still have Ken so you should get a nice upgrade.

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[The 747]

We can't trade out our F2 but maybe swapping F2s with Geelong might help grease the wheel along with a late pick this year?

We still have Ken so you should get a nice upgrade.

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That doesn't help us since we are going to lose the F2 regardless.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

That doesn't help us since we are going to lose the F2 regardless.

Then we better hope GC want Bonner.

That would make quite a neat 3 way trade.

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[The 747]

Then we better hope GC want Bonner.

That would make quite a neat 3 way trade.

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So your cunning plan is GC give you their F2, you give us their F2 and we give you some extra stuff, then we give them their F2 back? Brilliant!

 

[Libbaaaa]

Esava is a simple future 4th trade. Hasn't shown anything in 6 years, can't play the "we put all this development into him" card when he is no good.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Esava is a simple future 4th trade. Hasn't shown anything in 6 years, can't play the "we put all this development into him" card when he is no good.

Huh?

Can’t really play the ‘simple trade’ card when he’s contracted and is the only depth in a position.