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Out of the sides that didn't make the 8 last year. Who are you better than? I think North Melbourne, Adelaide, Port Adelaide and Melbourne are in line to make the 8 before Essendon

People were saying many teams were ahead of Freo this time last year. Who knows what might happen, we might overtake all of those teams, we might not, and we are better than what our form in the second half of the year suggested, we were on fire from rounds 6-10
 
It's all guesswork. Nobody knows how any team will go.

I know that we got the best coach in the AFL and made him our assistant, that should help a little bit.
 
Is the OP even an Essendon supporter?. I suspect not. Fake Profile I'd Guess. Real Essendon supporter know better than to start this sort of thread. Probably one of the usual trolls poking the hornets nest.
 

If we work on an assumption that Mark McVeigh is as you say, better than a fair few on the cats list, then its hard to disagree.

But to continue your argument who from this propsective and on th w slideCats 22 do you rate lesser than Mark McVeigh?

B: Milburn; Scarlett; Wojinski
HB: Mackie; Taylor; T.hunt
C: Enright; Bartel; Ling
HF: Chapman; Podsiadly; Varcoe
F: Johnson J; Hawkins; Menzel

Foll: Ottens; Selwood; Kelly

Bench: Simpson; Corey; Byrnes; Stokes
 

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If we work on an assumption that Mark McVeigh is as you say, better than a fair few on the cats list, then its hard to disagree.

But to continue your argument who from this propsective and on th w slideCats 22 do you rate lesser than Mark McVeigh?

B: Milburn; Scarlett; Wojinski
HB: Mackie; Taylor; T.hunt
C: Enright; Bartel; Ling
HF: Chapman; Podsiadly; Varcoe
F: Johnson J; Hawkins; Menzel

Foll: Ottens; Selwood; Kelly

Bench: Simpson; Corey; Byrnes; Stokes

Read between the lines. It's troll thread and was being treated as such.
 
Yeah but there good young players are KPP. Hurley, Pears and Gumby could be elite. They just need to get some mids in - if they do that they might be ok. KPP start to come good mid 20's where as quality mids can be good from early 20's. Timing could be good if they get the mids.

Very well said mate.
 
If we work on an assumption that Mark McVeigh is as you say, better than a fair few on the cats list, then its hard to disagree.

But to continue your argument who from this propsective and on th w slideCats 22 do you rate lesser than Mark McVeigh?

B: Milburn; Scarlett; Wojinski
HB: Mackie; Taylor; T.hunt
C: Enright; Bartel; Ling
HF: Chapman; Podsiadly; Varcoe
F: Johnson J; Hawkins; Menzel

Foll: Ottens; Selwood; Kelly

Bench: Simpson; Corey; Byrnes; Stokes

hawkins... lol menzel :eek:

Team would look much better if you replaced Menzel with ablett :(
 
Essendon just strike me as very... vanilla. Theres some talent there no doubt it's just that atm two players in Hille and Watson are of utmost importance to them - because the rest are either not very good, inconsistent or forever battling injuries.
 
I agree that our midfield is a weakness but I fail to see how it is easily the worst in the afl. I think it is about on par with Richmond's and West Coast's.

Richmond Midfielders - Cotchin, Edwards, Jackson, Morton, Martin, Foley, Houli, Grigg, Tuck, Webberley, Hislop, White

West Coast Midfielders - Kerr, Priddis, Masten, Ebert, Dalzeil, Rosa, Selwood's, Smith, Shuey, Stevens, Hams.

Essendon Midfielders - Watson, Stanton, Winderlich, Zaharakis, Prismall, Hocking, Colyer, Melksham, Jetta, Howlett, NLM, Myers, Welsh.

How is our midfield obviously worse than Richmond's and West Coast's?


Sorry mate youve forgotten a few players here, remove hislop(spud) and add deledio,conners, newman plus contin to be raised of rookie list
 
my take is, the dons can play but you are going in with new coaching structures that will take time to implement. Dons supporters will say we won games against top teams so we will probably win same number of game this year. It doesnt work this way because you will not play the same run forward at pace game now, so while i reckon ess arernt that bad but it will take time to learn new game plans!!!
 

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It's not that essendon will worse, its that all the other teams will have made progress forward. For instance Scott for us has done what Knights failed to do for 3 years. All the other developing teams have already identified the next gen players where essendon is still searching for the right players and that could take time and cost essendon games.
 
So lets see.

West Coast - Will continue to be bottom 3 material this year.
Gold Coast - Will fight WC and Brisbane in a 3 way for the spoon
Brisbane - Falling apart.
Adelaide - Will collapse this year and round out the bottom 4. Having lost Goodwin, McLeod, Hentschel, Burton and Edwards is going to cause them to slide.

Port - Like Essendon have a new coach and a suspect list
Richmond - Will improve but still get knocked around by a lot of teams.
Hawthorn - Contentious I know but they will either have a good year or a terrible one. If Clarkson gets sacked mid-year (and with Jeff who the hell knows) could be a horror year for them.
Essendon - Will win some games, won't win others.
North Melbourne - Still Improving.

This second group of Port, Richmond, Essendon, North and Hawthorn are my pick this year for positions 13 - 9
They could in theory, wind up in any order. And one of them may even sneak into the 8 and displace Melbourne. As such I think Essendon will overall have a 'meh' year results wise, but some good changes in structure, gameplan, and the personnel at the end of the year will lead to a much stronger 2012.

Finally Kings and Donk both being reasonable and fair in their assessments to Essendon in one thread. What kind of weird twilight world is this? :thumbsu:
 
Thats all well and good, but I in a completely unbiased opinion dont believe Knights was the problem. Where as Polo and Tambling were definately part of our problems but this isn't about Richmond.

Wow, just wow! Did you watch Essendon at all since Knights took over? His game plans were awful and he had no plan B. Terrible coach. He may not have been the problem but he was a huge part of the problem.
 
This is not the bay - my assessment was fair. End of the day you finished 3rd last - all I did was descride the 3rd worse team in the comp. But feel free to rasie any points you do not agree with. I think you will find they are close to the mark.

Hahaha coming from the guy that has made it his life work to troll Essendon on the main board. What is it now? 921 out of 940 posts on the main board directly aimed at trolling Essendon.

Having said this, you did hold back this time. Are you not feeling well?
 
It's not that essendon will worse, its that all the other teams will have made progress forward. For instance Scott for us has done what Knights failed to do for 3 years. All the other developing teams have already identified the next gen players where essendon is still searching for the right players and that could take time and cost essendon games.

lol wut? :eek:
 

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