Essendon 2011

[d-mac3276]

Will play finals. Mark it

 

[Rustof]

You guys showed signs of being a top 8 team last year in a few matches, you just weren't able to maintain the consistency. IMO Hird isn't the answer.

 

[TeamHurley]

You guys showed signs of being a top 8 team last year in a few matches, you just weren't able to maintain the consistency. IMO Hird isn't the answer.

you guys showed signs of remaining bottom feeders for a few more years.

 

[DVD Player]

You guys showed signs of being a top 8 team last year in a few matches, you just weren't able to maintain the consistency. IMO Hird isn't the answer.

Oh well guess they had better sack him then.

 

[Rustof]

Alright then, tell me why Knights should have been sacked and why Hird will do better than him.

 

[The Bomb]

I am very happy how we have recruited,

key pos players

Ryder 22yrs 94 gms
Hurley 20yrs 29 gms
Pears 20yrs 38gms
Gumbleton 22yrs 22gms
Hooker 22yrs 36gms
Carlisle 19yrs 3gms
J.Daniher 16yrs ready to come in just as Hille hits 32, timing is perfect.
our Key pos players will just start hitting there straps in 2-3 years time.

1 really nice Utility type of player who reads the play as good as any player drafted in
Dyson Heppell 18yrs

Midfielders

Watson 25yrs 115gms
Stanton 24yrs 141gms
Colyer 19yrs 11gms
Howlett 22yrs 15gms
Zaharakis 20yrs 30gms
Melksham 19yrs 14gms
Myers 22yrs 21gms
Jetta 22yrs 39gms

which will be coming on beautifully in 2 or 3 years time, I know they are not the Dustin Martin or Scully type mids, but will be a really good group to complement our talls. Watson will only be 27 or 28 and at his peak,
We have a real nice blend, From Ryder and Hille in the ruck, Daniher and Bellchambers in the wings,
Hocking, Howlett and Watson are real in and under types of players,
Heppell will be a quality Utility,

Essendon in the past 20years have always had really good key pos players and goal kicking rucks, in Lloyd, Lucas, Wellman, Fletcher, Salmon and barnes and 1 of the great Utilities in Hird, never had the real gem midfielders, but have had solid contributers like J Johnson, Misiti, Mercuri, Long ect
so really we have stuck with what has worked for us Essendon and in my mind we are tracking along with our young KPP and Mids perfectly and the timing will come together perfectly.
If we do get a AA mid it will just be a bonus, but very happy with our young players.

 

[Barnzy]

Bottom 4.

 

[The Bomb]

Alright then, tell me why Knights should have been sacked and why Hird will do better than him.

Hird was smart enough to establish a team of coaches, they are real quality with Bomber and McCartney both fantastic teachers of the game, Goodwin was already helping Craig coach players like Vince, MacKay, Van Belo ect Wallis and Wellman who Melbourne were very upset about leaving.
By Hird Coaching secured Jetta and Stanton, players were very unsettled in the last 1/2 of 2010, includin Hille and Fletcher.
Paul Little multi billionaire jumped on board.
most ever members for Essendon to sign to date.

Everything has been better already, When Hird played he read the play better then anybody, he knows positioning, he also read the game better then any captain I have seen, as soon as opposition teams started to get on top, He would put himself right in the thick of the action and always get the clearances, and before you know it he would be getting the most vital goals.
So I think he always was a step ahead of the play and game, so he wont sit back and watch teams pile on 8+ consecutive goals.

 

[The Bomb]

Bottom 4.

Thaz ok, Why?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Will play finals. Mark it

i bet you won't make finals. Mark it.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Alright then, tell me why Knights should have been sacked and why Hird will do better than him.

The fact that not one other AFL club has hired him since his sacking says it all.

 

[Crow-mo]

Piss off troll, your quoting one sentence from a lengthy post, adding absolutely no input to the discussion accept your little snipe.

oh so you didn't say that, and it wasn't the one sentence distillation o your whole post?

oh wait yes it was. you weren't taken out of context, and that was your exact point. you have no grounds for complaint, which i suspect is your real grievance.

 

[Crow-mo]

Beaten them in 3 of the last 4 games. Adelaide is another we are well ahead off.

interesting. I'm just curious what well ahead of Adelaide means to you?

you've finished ahead of us on the table once in 10 years

humiliated by 96pts in the 2009 final - and heck when you look at our finals record its even worse for you

lost by 84 pts to us in round 14 2010

so sure, maybe you are well ahead of us at least.

 

[Crow-mo]

lol, so you say, recall having more than one good laugh at the onfield circus often dished up by your crows last season

do you recall laughing in round 14?

stugots

 

[Crow-mo]

This.

The Bomber delusion continues.

apparently they match up great to us, despite losing the last 5 in a row and 9 of the last 12 by an 8 goal + average

hate to see the results against teams they don't have the wood on

 

[marcuz]

do you recall laughing in round 14?

No that was no laughing matter, the crows record against essendon in Melbourne on the other hand is ****ing hilarious.

I love these "what do you think of my team?" questions on the main board, they always provoke well thought out discussion without a hint of negative bias. It's like asking rush Limbaugh his thoughts on Barack Obama.

 

[Bazzar]

Leagues worst midfield.

Take out Watson and it’s the equivalent of the best VFL midfield. Bottom 3 this season easy.

And to think they could have had Dimma, but instead got Hird. Deep down the Bombers must be hurting big time.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

It's like asking rush Limbaugh his thoughts on Barack Obama.

That right wing whackjob makes my skin crawl

 

[damochandler]

We're going to be struggling for a while. Sheedys bad recruiting and having knights as our coach has put us back quite a few years

 

[Crow-mo]

No that was no laughing matter, the crows record against essendon in Melbourne on the other hand is ****ing hilarious.

agree. we've won the last 2 games in melbourne by an Average of 90 points.

i'm smiling thinking about it.

plus

last 5 in a row
9 of 12

average margin of 8+ goals per.

oh how my sides are splitting

 

[marcuz]

agree. we've won the last 2 games in melbourne by an Average of 90 points.

i'm smiling thinking about it.

plus

last 5 in a row
9 of 12

average margin of 8+ goals per.

oh how my sides are splitting

16 years of effort finally paying off, good for you.

 

[The Bomb]

Leagues worst midfield.

Take out Watson and it’s the equivalent of the best VFL midfield. Bottom 3 this season easy.

And to think they could have had Dimma, but instead got Hird. Deep down the Bombers must be hurting big time.

I would take 3 years of Knights, and then get Hird and Bomber,
100% of the time before having Hardwick 3 years ago and onwards.
every Bomber fan would agree with me. Essendon training with Hawthorn, Pass on that every day of the week.

take out Riewoldt and Richmond spine would be, thats right what spine.

 

[Wernumberone]

Leagues worst midfield.

Take out Watson and it’s the equivalent of the best VFL midfield. Bottom 3 this season easy.

And to think they could have had Dimma, but instead got Hird. Deep down the Bombers must be hurting big time.

What has Dimma done so far?

Lost 9 games straight, went 6 and 16 and got smashed by the team with the supposed worst midfield in the AFL.

Geez you tugger fans are sooo easy to please these days. I suppose that what over 3 DECADES without a flag will do to you...

 

[Bazzar]

What has Dimma done so far?

Apart from Keilor under 9`s what has Hird done to warrant all this adulation of a gun senior AFL coach.

 

[jonoman89]

The worst thing Hird can do is have the club make finals in 2011. It's clear that the list isn't good enough to sustain a finals campaign, or continually reach the top 8 year after year.

If he manages to sneak in like Knights managed to in 09 with only 10 wins, then all the fans will again think that success is right around the corner. It isn't.

Hird has a fantastic legacy, but it will all go up in smoke very quickly a la Voss if he stuffs this up.

I see Essendon around the 9th -14th mark this year. I expect to see improvement in their younger players a la Hurley, Melksham, Colyer etc. So much so that the raw talent of their youngsters should provide them with some good wins. However i can also see the large amounts of dead wood in their list doing sweet FA in some games, resulting in some pretty shocking losses as well.

The sooner McVeigh, Welsh, Lovett-Murray and all the other middle-aged plodders are removed the better. I can't believe some of them still get games...