Essendon are vulnerable

[Macca19]

Well so it seems. The three other premiership contenders at this stage (Brisbane Port and Carlton) have all beaten Essendon.

Essendon definatly arent playing as good footy as they had played last year.
Last year Essendon was winning every week by 8-9-10 goals with ease it seemed. Now they are only winning by 2-3-4 goals when they win (even tho they have an average of 45 points) They seemed to be shaky under pressure - as shown by the carlton brisbane and port games.

Dan - maybe youll learn to shut your mouth in future as you said two weeks ago "You cant tell me that Essendon hasnt won the minor premiership already...they are 3 games up and percentage...its a shoe in, you tihnk anyone will catch us?"

Well Dan - you havent won a game after you said that!!!

Its just interesting thats all. I dont think Essendon are the shoe-ins for the premiership that everyone thinks they are at the moment...could be a fight for the flag yet!

 

[Mags]

They will not beat Sydney next week at Colonial.

Mags

 

[Dan26]

Macca,

Trust me....the minor premiership race, while mathematically open, is over. We are still effectively two games clear. Don't write us off. No one is unbeatable, but we are still in top spot, which is above every other team in the comp.

And Mags, you will be game to tip against us this week. I don't think we will lose three in a row. Sydney havn't got within 60 points of us in Melbourne in their last 3 visits here to play us. However talking about it won't do anything. I'll just wait until we thrash the Swans next wek to show you

P.S. BTW: Crowd Coll-Rich: 69,930, Ess-Carl: 75,571.

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by Macca19
I dont think Essendon are the shoe-ins for the premiership that everyone thinks they are at the moment...could be a fight for the flag yet!

The nature of the way the flag is decided makes this a dumb comment. Even if we went 22-0, there would still be some doubt as to whetehr we would win the premiership, because we would need to win two knockout games to win the Grand Final.

Naturally, it isn't over, and even if we were 18-0 with a percentage of 300, it would still be possible we could lose the preliminary final, so it is ALWAYS going to be a fight for the flag.

It will obviously be a big fight for the flag, and our loss this week (or last week) does nothing to change that.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by Dan25
Macca,

Trust me....the minor premiership race, while mathematically open, is over. We are still effectively two games clear. Don't write us off. No one is unbeatable, but we are still in top spot, which is above every other team in the comp.

Heard it two weeks ago Dan. You also stated you wouldnt lose another game for the year. Yet you havent won a game since your comment.
So know, the minor premiership race is not over...and only a bias imbecile like yourself would say it is.

 

[Macca19]

Re: Re: Essendon are vulnerable

Originally posted by Dan25


The nature of the way the flag is decided makes this a dumb comment. Even if we went 22-0, there would still be some doubt as to whetehr we would win the premiership, because we would need to win two knockout games to win the Grand Final.

Naturally, it isn't over, and even if we were 18-0 with a percentage of 300, it would still be possible we could lose the preliminary final, so it is ALWAYS going to be a fight for the flag.

It will obviously be a big fight for the flag, and our loss this week (or last week) does nothing to change that.

Dan the best team at the moment is decided by who wins the grad final. Like it or lump it, and as wrong as it may be, it is how it is at the moment.

Essendon are thought of as shoe ins for the flag...and they arent.
Stop with your bloody propaganda

 

[play on]

Re: Re: Re: Essendon are vulnerable

Originally posted by Macca19




Stop with your bloody propaganda

Too much to ask.


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Play on says the umpire
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[lioness]

I think Essendon will keep top spot, they are a fair way ahead of us in percentage. Perhaps we will be equal top on percentage???? LOL

Don't forget to glance over your shoulder occasionally dan, here come the mighty LIONS!!!!!!!!

 

[Dan26]

Macca,

I'm nt spreading propaganda. I'm just stating the truth. The fact is that the ebst team can totally domiante a season, but they could come unstuck in the PF or GF. So, obviously the flag race isn't over. It's always been open.

We will not lose top spot. To lose it we would have to lsoe 2 of our last 4, and Brisbane would have to win all 4.

 

[Mags]

Originally posted by Dan25


And Mags, you will be game to tip against us this week. I don't think we will lose three in a row. Sydney havn't got within 60 points of us in Melbourne in their last 3 visits here to play us. However talking about it won't do anything. I'll just wait until we thrash the Swans next wek to show you

I will be tipping the swans this week Dan after the way the played last night. So what if Sydney have not got within 60 points since ur last 3 games against them... This is this year.

And once again you are shouting ur mouth off again so lets hope Sydney give u a hiding this week.

Mags

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by Dan25
Macca,

I'm nt spreading propaganda. I'm just stating the truth. The fact is that the ebst team can totally domiante a season, but they could come unstuck in the PF or GF. So, obviously the flag race isn't over. It's always been open.

We will not lose top spot. To lose it we would have to lsoe 2 of our last 4, and Brisbane would have to win all 4.

Brisbane would not have to win all four.
If Brisbane win the next two games, and Essendon lose them, then Brisbane are on top.

It aint over till its over Dan. Remember that.

 

[BomberGal]

Originally posted by Macca19



If Brisbane win the next two games, and Essendon lose them, then Brisbane are on top.

Mate, it all depends on percentage.

 

[Calamity]

Originally posted by BomberGal


Mate, it all depends on percentage.

Uh, Bombergal..

Since Essendon is currently on 56 points and Brisbane on 52 points.. If Bris win the next two they go to 60 points.. If Essendon lose the next two they stay on 56 points. What has percentage got to do with it if Bris have more wins and more premiership points??

 

[joshhem]

Who have the Bombers got after the swans?

Next week will be tough for them but u can't deny taht they are a champion team and will still be very my favourites

 

[Dan26]

Essendon play:

Sydney at CS
Collingwood MCG
WCE Subi
Richmond MCG

I would say that we would probably win all four. Richmond and Collingwood are "average-to-good" sides, but I don't think we will drop those games. We match up well against Richmond, and Collingwood are terrible at the moment. Sydney are in Melbourne, and we should win, even without our two best players.

Because of our large percentage, we would have to lose two, and Brissy would have to win all 4 of their games for us to lose top spot.

Nope...... it ain't gonna happen.

 

[Mags]

Originally posted by Dan25
Essendon play:

Sydney at CS
Collingwood MCG
WCE Subi
Richmond MCG

I wouldnt go put them all down for a win u cocky bomber prick. Sydney are a very good side and are in form and want a home final, they will put up a fight next week.

Collingwood, we all know what happen Anzac Day dont we?

WCE should be a win.

Richmond who knowz what will happen, They might beat the living **** through ur team.

Mags

 

[Dan26]

Mags,

Obviously, any match by any team is a "possible" loss, but I think we would win all four of those. Sydney don't match up very well agaisnt us at all, and we don't lose to interstate teams in Victoria (it's been more than three years since we have lsot to a non-Vic side at home)

We have had 2 consecutive 7 point losses against top teams. Hardly cause for major concern. Hey, if you want to put some money on another team getting top spot, then be my guest - do it and waste your money.

 

[Mags]

I cant recall sayin Essendon wont finsh top spot, Never did.

Plus we will see what happens at Colonial next week wont we, with Sydney.

Mags

 

[TheSchwatta_#2]

The arrogance Dan..The arrogance is too obvious.

How Dare you make comments based on Sydney's current performance? Typical arrogance. Sydney are a physical side and will match you guys up this time round. They are hungry to play the bombers since Round4 this year. Don't forget that Round4 was played in wet conditions and did not suit our game plan at all.

Sydney have beaten Port and Carlton, two teams who have defeated the bombers with the latter twice. They flogged North who kicked a huge margin against you guys in the first qrt. The only team who we haven't defeated is Brisbane who I, personally think will be there in the GF. Against the bombers we shall wait and see.

Don't under estimate us Dan, you might be surprised. Hopefully I can post a huge victory post next this time next week.

The Bombers can be counted for.

Originally posted by Dan25
Essendon play:

Sydney at CS
Collingwood MCG
WCE Subi
Richmond MCG

I would say that we would probably win all four. Richmond and Collingwood are "average-to-good" sides, but I don't think we will drop those games. We match up well against Richmond, and Collingwood are terrible at the moment. Sydney are in Melbourne, and we should win, even without our two best players.

Because of our large percentage, we would have to lose two, and Brissy would have to win all 4 of their games for us to lose top spot.

Nope...... it ain't gonna happen.

 

[Dan26]

Schwatta,

Let's just wait and see, okay.

I'm always confident when we play Sydney. Maybe you guys will give us a run for our money; maybe you won't. Who knows? We just need to get back on the winners list.

If Lloyd gets suspended, you will have a big chance with our two "franchise" (to use a term) players missing. Still, I think we will beat you....... and that's not being arrogant either. What do you want me to do? Tip a Sydney victory?

 

[TheSchwatta_#2]

Dan,

Fair enough, just sick of Sydney not being credited enough after some very good wins.

I didn't expect you to tip Sydney, just not brutal at your assessment at next weeks game.

I forgot to mention you will not have Lloyd. He was suspended for the same thing earlier this year..right?

 

[ptw]

most likely result is Ess to finish top.

I wouldn't get to settled on the % thing though.....

lets say Bris win all 4 including a win by 100 points

Lets say Essendon win 3 with one loss by 10 goals.

Assuming the other games are negligible wins then the % would roughly be:

Ess 130.9%
Bris 129.4%

1.5% is about 30 points.

So although Ess do have a considerable advantage, having a high percentage means it does take a relatively bigger hit when you lose.

Now.....

"lets say Bris win all 4 including a win by 100 points

Lets say Essendon win 3 with one loss by 10 goals."

is a big assumption...but not beyond the realms of possibility....its not like Bris need to win by 20 goals every week and Ess get flogged every week....just one week will do !!!

Personally I do not care so long as Port get as high as possible (and by the same logic it is not out of the question entirely for them either).

ptw

 

[Desredandwhite]

Let's not get too carried away here. I know we beat North by over 100 points, but they were a rabble last night. And Essendon might have lost 2 in a row, but they are still sitting on top of the ladder, and buggered if I'm going to underestimate them.

Having said that though, this will be the most confident I've been in a while, at least since round 4 this year - and we all know what happened then... Also, a lot has happened since then. We've got some of the hunger back, and our mighty efforts, esp in terms of hardness at the ball and physical pressure, are very pleasing to see.

We will give you a run for your money, dont' worry about that, Dan25. The team that underestimates their opponents more will lose.

God help all who face us if Greg Stafford ever puts 15 minutes of form together - when on song we murder sides out of the middle.

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

No so bluecrow

Essendon absolutely killed Sydney in the pouring rain at the SCH in Round 4.

They put on a 'skills clinic' in fact.

But that was then and this is now and I have to say that after watching yesterday's blockbuster I can see that Essendon are nothing like that team that thrashed us in Round 4.

For large slabs of yesterday's game I have to say the Essendon looked dead ordinary out there.

Just another run-of-the-mill dead set ordinary footy team that wins a few and loses a few.

Nothing special at all, eminently beatable and certainly not the 'best team ever' or some other uttter rubbish they like to describe themselves as.

No doubt about it, Essendon do have the staggers somewhat and its happening at the wrong end of the season too.

Only one game and a few percentage points on top now, Brisbane and Port breating down your necks .... hmmm - you really do need to beat the Swans this week don't you ?

cheers

 

[TheMase]

I would defintely not underestimate Sydney.

North may have been a 'rabble' on Saturday night, but a lot of that was due to Sydney's AMAZING pressure that they put them under.
It was fantastic. They backline flogged Norths 'strong' forward line. And Sydney's midfield ran all over them.

Essendon are a great side, and I am expecting a HUGE game. One of the best of the year I would imagine.