Essendon has no chance to win the flag

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Essendon dont have four of their best players returning this week and a 15-7 win/loss record (16 wins if dogs tried against freo) which in the end deceived all.

Dont get me wrong, I reckon Essendon will lose but they wont be disgraced. I think Port will beat the Eagles by more tbh. But circumstances are different here.
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This is the problem with anomalies. It happens once and then everyone thinks it'll happen again.

Bookies will make a mint this finals series from plonkers trying to find the next bulldogs.
Yup. Upsets are upset for a reason.

There is a huge difference between Bombers and Bulldogs of last year. I don't completely rule the, out against Sydney, but Adelaide made them look third rate just recently. If I was going to put money on a team not to win the flag it would be bombers. A couple of years too early
 

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Essendon are building really nicely and I rate their list but they don't have the inside power in midfield that good finals sides do. They're two good inside mids from finishing top 4 imo.
Spot on.

The difference between Bulldogs and Essendon is that Bulldogs had the midfield power to match the best midfields in the competition. We have the forwardline and defence, but our midfield won't stand up under finals pressure. Low midfield supply = reduced scoring opportunities + leaky defence.

Bulldogs didn't really have the best forwardline, but their midfield covered that very well.

The team that I say to look out for is Richmond. If they win this week, then I reckon they'll win the premiership. Have some similarities to the Dogs of last year.
 

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Main difference is west coast were no more than flag fancies last year, Sydney are almost flag favourites. The dogs had also shown some potential earlier in the year before injuries ravaged them. Apart from the glimpses that most teams have shown, Essendon haven't really done much outstanding. Been a great effort to make the finals, and of course there is some chance that they will win the flag from here, but it's incredibly low.
 

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Main difference is west coast were no more than flag fancies last year, Sydney are almost flag favourites. The dogs had also shown some potential earlier in the year before injuries ravaged them. Apart from the glimpses that most teams have shown, Essendon haven't really done much outstanding. Been a great effort to make the finals, and of course there is some chance that they will win the flag from here, but it's incredibly low.
Miniscule. Minute.

We're a small chance to beat the Swans.

To win four games in a row against the best in the league?

I don't want to say zero, but yeah, not gonna happen.
 

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Essendon are building really nicely and I rate their list but they don't have the inside power in midfield that good finals sides do. They're two good inside mids from finishing top 4 imo.
Spot on... a bull extractor and tall running pinpoint kick...

Speed, attack and defense is generally ticked off...
 

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Bulldogs were a lot better side heading into finals than Essendon is....
Essendon flag this year would be a lot more remarkable than Bulldogs 2016.

Can't see it... however if they get past the Swans... well... I guess anything is possible then!

Essendon v Geelong grand final could actually be the first time ever I don't watch the big dance... I'd actually prefer Essendon but my fingers are melting just typing that...
 

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I didn't say they would you stupid campaigners. Read it properly. I'm just saying that they're in the same spot the dogs were last year { not the 15-7 record though } and look what happened.

Point is expect the unexpected just like in the finals last year and the season so far. That goes for every final. People have short memories. Last finals every campaigner was tipping WCE and Swans. This season most are tipping Adelaide, Geelong, Swans and Port although the port game is the one where perhaps people are 50-50. Now with Sloane's exclusion there's probably more tipping GWS now as a result.

Also just harping on at the doggies of last year as this time a year ago no campaigner gave them a shot in hell for the flag, and even week 1.

Looking back the dogs win now is even better than what I thought then, and that's a pretty big ****en statement. Because it was ****en massive a year ago.
 

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2016 elimination final: 7th placed bulldogs played the 6th placed west coast eagles who were runner up in 2015. The Eagles finished the season off in great form, and the bulldogs were paying over $4 to win the game.

2017 elimination final: 7th places bombers play the 6th places Sydney swans who were runner up in 2016. The Swans finished off the season in great form, and the bombers are paying over $4 to win the game.
exactly. That's just the point I'm making. Upsets and underdogs get up and people are like wtf, if you said that would happen before hand, you'd think they're clueless. I am not saying Essendon will win the flag, I don't even think they will get past Sydney this week. If you were a betting man you'd take swans the higher win than the small win. It's just any shit can happen in any game and these finals just like last year, people are already convinced who's going to beat who.

It's like once the match ups and bye happened, they already forgot the season we had:huh:
 

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Essendon 1-39 @ $6 is the bet of the round. Put your house deposit on it.
The above is the perfect mutilation of the old phrase "put your house on it".

But today the old Australia of the fair go is dead......so we now say "put your house deposit on it".

There are still some who say "put your second, third, or fourth investment property on it". I bet many of those people aren't happy either with the growing divisions.

Time to vote again for equality.



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Swans @ SCG
Loser of Geelong or Richmond
Winner of Adelaide/GWS @ home

Just to make the GF.

it would be nice, but ill be glad just to survive this week
So much like the dogs of last year. Looking back it's crazy that they won it.

Away to Perth
Face the reigning 3 time champs and team that played in 4 straight GF's
Away to GWS who had 2 weeks rest
Beat the Ladder topping Swans.

When you see what Essendon are faced with this season, and see that the dogs were in the same place yet won, what they did is beyond impossible. Imagine if Essendon were to do it. It looks impossible, and I don't think they will.

How the **** did the dogs win it last year. Because Essendon are in the doggies position this year. And I give them no chance.

That's what everyone says this year about the dons. What I'm saying is, Holy ****en shit Doggies. I am in even more awe now, than what I was last year.
 

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So much like the dogs of last year. Looking back it's crazy that they won it.

Away to Perth
Face the reigning 3 time champs and team that played in 4 straight GF's
Away to GWS who had 2 weeks rest
Beat the Ladder topping Swans.

When you see what Essendon are faced with this season, and see that the dogs were in the same place yet won, what they did is beyond impossible. Imagine if Essendon were to do it. It looks impossible, and I don't think they will.

How the **** did the dogs win it last year. Because Essendon are in the doggies position this year. And I give them no chance.

That's what everyone says this year about the dons. What I'm saying is, Holy ****en shit Doggies. I am in even more awe now, than what I was last year.
I'm just taking up the role of the doggies supporters who at this point last year wouldn't have been believing it could happen.
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So much like the dogs of last year. Looking back it's crazy that they won it.

Away to Perth
Face the reigning 3 time champs and team that played in 4 straight GF's
Away to GWS who had 2 weeks rest
Beat the Ladder topping Swans.

When you see what Essendon are faced with this season, and see that the dogs were in the same place yet won, what they did is beyond impossible. Imagine if Essendon were to do it. It looks impossible, and I don't think they will.

How the **** did the dogs win it last year. Because Essendon are in the doggies position this year. And I give them no chance.

That's what everyone says this year about the dons. What I'm saying is, Holy ****en shit Doggies. I am in even more awe now, than what I was last year.
Mate It legit crosses my mind about how the **** they did it. I was at freo Rd 23 aswell and even though the game.meant nothing and wed play eagles next week I was so flat and less confident of beating the eagles. I was happy with the eagles win and would of been happy with an honourable loss to hawks. Once they done that, that was it if we lost to gws to get into a GF I would of been so dirty on AFL. Was suprisingly confident at GF.
 

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Unfortunately there's a reason that Essendon and Eagles are 12 win teams this year. Its because we weren't good enough to win enough games to indicate that we are capable of going all the way this year. I'd give us some chance of beating Swans - but we would need amazing luck to get anywhere close to the flag this year.

I do tend to disagree with the argument we only made it because of our draw though. We actually didn't manage to abuse our draw - as we went 1-1 with teams like Carlton and Brisbane. The only team we went 2-0 against was Collingwood. The only team we went 0-2 against was Adelaide. Now I guess you could argue that with a harder draw we would have gone 0-2 against some of the other opponents but we were pretty competitive with everyone except Adelaide this year. We also had our % boosting games against decent teams like Port, West Coast and St.Kilda and failed to do the same against bottom teams.
 
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