Odd timing for a thread about a team not in finals, started (with continued contributions) by a supporter of a club not only in the top 4, but in its first final series since all this even happened!
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EFC were handed a lifeline by the AFL in terms of player payments.
So much cheating for so little result. What happened to the good old days when you'd ignore the salary cap & win a flag?
ITT people acting like fraud is no big deal, not a criminal offence and that pretty much everybody would do it given the chance
So questioned my lawyer friend about this. He said if he allowed one of his clients to get $150k more in a class action (and that's what this essentially was) in the settlement as a different client who had the exact same amount of grievance he would be fired on the spot, be blacklisted by pretty much every firm in the world and never work as a lawyer again.
He then said the insurance company would never let that fly. So basically this thread is "OH s**t WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT DA DRUGZZZZZZ IN AGES"
Odd timing for a thread about a team not in finals, started (with continued contributions) by a supporter of a club not only in the top 4, but in its first final series since all this even happened!
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So questioned my lawyer friend about this. He said if he allowed one of his clients to get $150k more in a class action (and that's what this essentially was) in the settlement as a different client who had the exact same amount of grievance he would be fired on the spot, be blacklisted by pretty much every firm in the world and never work as a lawyer again.
He then said the insurance company would never let that fly. So basically this thread is "OH s**t WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT DA DRUGZZZZZZ IN AGES"
“Essendon should be drawn and quartered for the way they allowed this s**t to ruin a great competition for many years”
*Starts totally random thread about it on the eve of finals, five years later*
EFC fans still in denial.
We didn't squeal, it was the ATO that got you. Well we did squeal about the drugs.Even better, when you ignored it and came second......and then squealed about the team that won?
So much cheating for so little result. What happened to the good old days when you'd ignore the salary cap & win a flag?
Oppo supporter: "ESSENDON ARE CHEATING THE CAP THROUGH THEIR COMPO PAYMENTS!"Essendon fans very defensive in this thread. Makes me think there might be more too this.
Essendon fans very defensive in this thread. Makes me think there might be more too this.
Quick version : The AFL allowed Essendon to deliver big payments outside the salary cap in the form of legal settlements probably giving them a massive advantage over other clubs still to this day.
Long version: Essendon have done absolutely nothing wrong as they simply followed the AFL's directives. This is not the 'supplements saga', this is more like COLA. It was AFL, whether intentionally or incompetently, compromising the competition again.
The reason it's interesting to bring it up now is that generally people didn't understand the possible implications at the time and still don't. They didn't seem to get that it could allow Essendon to retain (almost) all of its gun players and young talent while raiding genuine talent elsewhere for a number of years. And that is what we are starting to really see now - seemingly no pressure to retain wanted (from outside) players and the ability to go after multiple big signings in consecutive years.
Essentially Essendon was allowed to make discretionary payments to players outside the cap who they were simultaneously trying to keep contracted at the club and negotiating salaries with, with the only oversight being that Essendon had to pay 'market value'. This means they couldn't take the absolute piss with the cap, but it did mean that they could easily free up extra cash for each player and allow further room to maneuver with front-loaded and back-loaded contracts. It reduced the likelihood of paying overs for required players, helping list management. This means the effects were always going to last for many years after the payments.
Collingwood would love to pay Tom Lynch a 3 million dollar settlement if he stubbed his toe while meeting Bucks, pay him a bit less on his contract than otherwise and use the spare cash to help fend off any future plays for Stephenson. A settlement is just a payment from a club to a player outside the cap. It's ridiculous that essentially only Jake Niall in the media realised this was a problem at the time (but even he couldn't see how inadequate the 'fix' was) and other clubs have screwed up badly by not pushing back on the AFL.
Lastly, someone will post that these were just insurance payments - this is a lie. Insurance covered SOME of the payment amounts, but Essendon was paying discretionary amounts to different players from its own pocket.
We didn't squeal, it was the ATO that got you.
But anyway, I think you need to take a little break before you blow a vein
Essendon fans very defensive in this thread. Makes me think there might be more too this.
Part of the membership package, we got a hat and a 2 week course in black ops cert 3We as a fan group have become professional in black ops.
Part of the membership package, we got a hat and a 2 week course in black ops cert 3
it was a challenge but I did learn how to water board, so that was pretty cool.I aced the theory but the blackmailing and stalking practical was tough.