Essendon vs Carlton on Friday Night

[SirJimi05]

I rate Watson Essendons most important player, if I was Ratten i'd put Bannister on his ass all night, dont know if he's ever been tagged?? He wont hurt you with his disposal but he does generally give them first use to feed runners like Stanton, Lovett, Winderlich etc. I'm not sure who else gets the ball out of a pack situation apart from him with McVeigh out? (Prismall maybe?) so if the blues can successfully tag Watson, and Murphy, Judd, Gibbs and Grigg can win the clearances which they all do pretty well it will go a long way to winning the game.

I stopped reading there.

 

[SirJimi05]

An uneducated guess would be due to his phenomenal endurance*

There's a reason why players like Judd and Riewoldt have huge fourth quarters


*Have no idea where hocking's endurance is at.

The reason i asked the question is because Hocking's endurance is right up there with the top few at the club. Seems to me that he automatically assumed he has low endurance without actually having any idea at all.

 

[Nicko_]

I rate Watson Essendons most important player, if I was Ratten i'd put Bannister on his ass all night, dont know if he's ever been tagged?? He wont hurt you with his disposal but he does generally give them first use to feed runners like Stanton, Lovett, Winderlich etc. I'm not sure who else gets the ball out of a pack situation apart from him with McVeigh out? (Prismall maybe?) so if the blues can successfully tag Watson, and Murphy, Judd, Gibbs and Grigg can win the clearances which they all do pretty well it will go a long way to winning the game.

He has been tagged, or had at least had a tight opponent playing on him all year, and his lowest possession count is 20. Tag him all you want, not really gonna do anything, he is under alot of pressure when he gets the ball anyway.

Other midfielders getting the ball out are Prismall, Lonergan, Hocking and Winderlich, yes winders is a fast runner but never shirks a pack and will get the ball out as much as the rest of them.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Of course, I am expecting better this time - but neither team can afford to take it lightly. Last time a lot of Carlton supporters here were incredibly cocky, I would say moreso than Essendon supporters but this time it's the other way around. And just like us with Round 3, you are setting yourselves up for quite a fall. More the power to you if you win, you deservedly have bragging rights so far and you certainly will if you win on Friday... but if that doesn't happen, well, you put this on yourselves.

This part of your post Thrawny is very interesting. Trying not to be biased, i'd say your fellow supporters are at it again. The same old shyte happens whenever we play each other. This time, some Essendon posters have decided to respond. And automatically, we're painted as the arrogant cocky group.

You know what they say about glass houses.....

 

[Phat Toni]

I rate Watson Essendons most important player, if I was Ratten i'd put Bannister on his ass all night, dont know if he's ever been tagged?? He wont hurt you with his disposal but he does generally give them first use to feed runners like Stanton, Lovett, Winderlich etc. I'm not sure who else gets the ball out of a pack situation apart from him with McVeigh out? (Prismall maybe?) so if the blues can successfully tag Watson, and Murphy, Judd, Gibbs and Grigg can win the clearances which they all do pretty well it will go a long way to winning the game.

For the Blues sake I hope you are not Ratten!!

 

[theboxmike]

Blues to win by 10 i just have a horrible feeling about this game.....Watson to dominate

 

[GoldenboyHird_5]

same feeling here boxmike.

just have a bad. bad, baaad feeling about the game.

i think it might be a blowout this time.

 

[bOmBeR_BoY1]

The fact of the matter is that if Carlton and their supporters think they are as good as they are, this is the game they have to win. There is really little pressure on the Bombers here as the general consensus thinks that Carlton should and will win, which is usually not the ideal time to play Essendon. There are absolutely no excuses for Carlton this week - they have blamed inaccuracy, umpiring and every other excuse under the sun in their previous losses to Essendon - but this week they are going to have nothing to fall back on.

This time next year I expect Essendon to have similar expectations to what Carlton have this year. We are realistically about one year behind, although another win this weekend can quickly change opinions.

 

[GoldenboyHird_5]

Agreed there bomber boy. gen. consensus would be that we are at least a year behind Carlton and that they should really give us a touch-up on Friday.

Would not be surprised if it happened too.

 

[Daytripper]

The fact of the matter is that if Carlton and their supporters think they are as good as they are, this is the game they have to win. There is really little pressure on the Bombers here as the general consensus thinks that Carlton should and will win, which is usually not the ideal time to play Essendon. There are absolutely no excuses for Carlton this week - they have blamed inaccuracy, umpiring and every other excuse under the sun in their previous losses to Essendon - but this week they are going to have nothing to fall back on.

^^^^
This.

 

[B-Bomber]

The fact of the matter is that if Carlton and their supporters think they are as good as they are, this is the game they have to win. There is really little pressure on the Bombers here as the general consensus thinks that Carlton should and will win, which is usually not the ideal time to play Essendon. There are absolutely no excuses for Carlton this week - they have blamed inaccuracy, umpiring and every other excuse under the sun in their previous losses to Essendon - but this week they are going to have nothing to fall back on.

This time next year I expect Essendon to have similar expectations to what Carlton have this year. We are realistically about one year behind, although another win this weekend can quickly change opinions.

Fully endorse this post. It's all a bit of fun and I'm sure winners teams posters will get stuck into the other teams posters as per usual. It's what makes bigfooty go round

Here's hoping it's a cracking contest and both teams get through unscathed.

Dons by 13

 

[BluesRock]

Don't really know who the blues have beaten apart from an injury destoryed lions. Sorry blues but your still just little boys lost in the woods who are nothing better than a mid table side.

With the three number ones the only young talent and with judd and an aging fev the only old talent you guys are in for years of pretending and with a coach that i wouldn't let handle an under 9's team have fun finishing between 6 and 10 for the next 3 to 4 years.

But don't worrie you can always tank again for another few years get a couple more number 1's and do it all over again because you can't draft after the first round. Ps good luck with yarren he looks like a star......... hahahahhahahahhahahahaha
Bombers by 27

No Young talent besides the No.1s? LOL!

Jarrad Waite - prior to injuring his knee was in AA form

Michael Jamison - a rookie turned senior player in a very short time and widely acknowledged as a talented FB

Shaun Grigg - tough as nails midfielder who has turned out consistently good performances

Aaron Joeseph - another rookie gem who has pretty much "owned" some of the most talented players in the league - Milne, Ablett (in the NAB) etc etc. Also nominated for Rising star. Id say thats talented....

Mitch Robinson - plays the game hard and fast. More than showed "talent" in his debut game where he scored a couple. Has been a bit inconsistent in one or two games since, but the talent is certainly there.

Paul Bower - probably our most improved player and has more than accounted himself against some of the best forwards in the buisness.

Jeff Garlett - Rookie gem (again) Has not got quite the built up frame required for consistent AFL footy YET, but has been blessed with the indigenous talent. Definitely has a future


Of course Essendon has somoe good young talent as well, but to say that Carlton has next to none is ridiculous

 

[BluesRock]

Oh and do you serously think Carlton actually had a team good enough to be able to tank games?

Carltons list during the "lean years" was apart from one or two exceptions, atrocious, plain and simple

 

[clogwearer]

I'm not the Pies bloke am i? Zaharkis looks very polished. I like the look of Beams more however. Reimers will be more HFF than midfield i'd suspect. Similar to Hird perhaps.

i'd take Pendles, Beams and Sidebottom over Zaharakis and Reimers!

I'm not going to argue single player merits over other single player merits, as I've not seen all AFL games this year...

but you'd take 3 players over 2? no brainer...how about listing 3 bombers players against 3 pies players?

I'd take 3 players over 2 as well, if they were all around the mark...

let's say Pendles, Beams and Sidebottom over Zaharakis, Reimers and Ryder...I'm not saying the Bombers are winners here but 3 players against 3 players is a much more reasonable argument than 3 players against 2 players.

 

[AJ121]

No Young talent besides the No.1s? LOL!

Jarrad Waite - prior to injuring his knee was in AA form

Yeah our young talented players McPhee, Welsh and Skipworth are doing alright too

 

[Winner]

Do you ever see Watson:

- delivery accurate bullet passes to forwards
- take long running bounces with the ball
- kick bags of goals
- get tagged by the best in the business, i.e. Kornes, Ling etc?

- delivery accurate bullet passes to forwards

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- kick bags of goals

Kicked 3 against Adelaide, I think they were all in the first half too.

- get tagged by the best in the business

Jobe gets tagged week in week out, if coaches don't tag him he wins too much contested ball and clearances.

 

[BluesRock]

Yeah our young talented players McPhee, Welsh and Skipworth are doing alright too

Perhaps Waite was not a great example, however at 26 he is far from "veteran" status (Im not saying Mcphee, welsh or skipworth are either).

 

[Galactico]

Firstly they are not all over 24 so atleast get your facts right.

Secondly a player is in his prime from around 24/25 - 28/29.

You said "where will Essendons core midfield be in 2 years time". I answered the question. They will be in their prime or they will be entering their prime. You made a fool of yourself by implying that Essendons midfield will be on the way down at that stage.

How will COllingwoods midfield be in 2 years? Dont include players like Beams, Sidebottom etc because the jury is still out on them.

so they are all 24 or over except for Stanton? Them being Watson, McVeigh, Lovett, Winderlich.

Essendon's core midfield is in their prime. They may still be peaking in 2 years time but that's my point. If this is their peak they are in now and they maintain this form, where does it honestly leave you? Do you seriously see such massive improvement still to come from Watson, McVeigh, Stanton, Lovett Winderlich? I mean improvement that will take you deep into september......I reckon your a long, long way away.....

Collingwoods midfield in 2 years time? Excluding Davis as he is the same age as McVeigh roughly, it will be Swan, Pendlebury, Wellingham, Thomas. Them being the main 4. Who knows what may come of Beams and Sidebottom and McCarthy.

Oldest there will be Swan, who will be 27. The rest, 24 or under.

See my point? Of course you don't.

 

[Galactico]

Wait til Galactico starts lecturing you about how much Collingwoods midfield led by Obree, Lockeyer, Davis has so much improvement in them compared to Essendons dads army midfield.

Its very amusing.

Well you are certainly a shit mind reader. Well done.

 

[The Donners]

Both teams get home game acces for their members.

Ummm... does this mean I have to book because my membership may not get me in if it's a full house?

Shit! Please please please tell me this isn't so!!!

 

[lions_den]

Both teams grand final. Should be a ripper

 

[The Donners]

so they are all over 24 except for Winderlich?

Essendon's core midfield is in their prime. They may still be peaking in 2 years time but that's my point. If this is their peak and they maintain this form, where does it honestly leave you? Do you seriously see such massive improvement still to come from Watson, McVeigh, Stanton, Lovett? I mean improvement that will take you deep into september......I reckon your a long, long way away.....

Collingwoods midfield in 2 years time? Excluding Davis as he is the same age as McVeigh roughly, it will be Swan, Pendlebury, Wellingham, Thomas. Them being the main 4. Who knows what may come of Beams and Sidebottom and McCarthy.

Oldest there will be Swan, who will be 27. The rest, 24 or under.

See my point? Of course you don't.

Prismall, Watson and Stanton are all younger than Winderlich and he's younger than Swan.

We don't know how Houli, Zaharakis and Myers will come on yet. If these guys come on we'll have the most depth to rotate through the midfield in the competition. Knights' plan.

We opted to draft KPP before midfielders. We have put and we will be putting a lot of time and money into the likes of Pears, Hooker, Ryder, Neagle, Gumbleton, Still and Hurley.

1 a-grade midfielder away from challenging for the premiership in 2 seasons. That's the plan.

 

[Bombers1234]

so they are all 24 or over except for Winderlich?

Essendon's core midfield is in their prime. They may still be peaking in 2 years time but that's my point. If this is their peak and they maintain this form, where does it honestly leave you? Do you seriously see such massive improvement still to come from Watson, McVeigh, Stanton, Lovett? I mean improvement that will take you deep into september......I reckon your a long, long way away.....

Collingwoods midfield in 2 years time? Excluding Davis as he is the same age as McVeigh roughly, it will be Swan, Pendlebury, Wellingham, Thomas. Them being the main 4. Who knows what may come of Beams and Sidebottom and McCarthy.

Oldest there will be Swan, who will be 27. The rest, 24 or under.

See my point? Of course you don't.

If you're relying on the likes of Wellingham and Thomas, you're in more trouble than i thought.

Our future midfield is looking very good, and of course it will improve, how stupid can you get. Stanton, Prismall, Watson, Winderlich absolutley shits on the four you just mentioned. and will be up there with Hawthorns of last year in terms of quality when they improve in a couple of years time.

You have aging mids you still rely on in Lockyer, Davis and O'Bree, whilst we have been without McVeigh for most of the year and have done alright. I would look in your own backyard before criticing ours.

 

[Tomorrows_Nobody]

Bomberblitz

 

[PowerIStough]

Hopefully should be a good game.

Huge crowd expected.

Might get over 90K.