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Rnd 13 Hawthorn, Rnd 14 Hawks

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Impossible to predict who will and wont make the 8 at the moment.
Outside of Collingwood, Geelong, Richmond and Adelaide noone is a lock for either.
It's easy to say yep we'll beat the Crows, and you probably will. But despite their shocking start to the season they still have some quality players who will most likely turn it on at some stage this season, likewise Hawthorn.
Essendon are so up and down that you cant lock them in to any win. (yes, yes i realise Carlton are the same).
Richmond are the biggest lock in for a win, but they have done alright against Essendon, so you just never know.
However, in ladder predictor i think i have them 8th at the moment.
Agree. If we keep going that hard at the footy, we'll worry just about everyone. Polish and finishing isn't there...yet - and that's what'll hold us back. We didn't play much better against Saints than Port... just kicked better.Essendon have been playing way below the ability of their list. Will give most teams a run from here if they keep their tails up.
Has nothing to do with what he said.Rubbish - the are 3-5 with the Tigers, Dogs, Syd in Syd and Cats. 4 - 8 their season is over.
It will be very hard to make the finals. I just did a quick ladder predictor and I had us missing out even if we only lose 3-4 more games for the year.
Unless Freemantle, Sydney, St Kilda or Port fall in a heap for about 5 weeks and lose games they shouldn't I can't see it happening. The fixture is too tough.
Nice win tonight but nothing to get a stiffy over.

The Bulldogs haven't beaten anyone decent this season.
Dogs, on the other hand, excellent win and despite some saying they're out of form now, they were certainly in form coming into tonight.
I look at them on paper and they look terrible. They go better than my perception of them but ultimately they will end up 7-12th again.