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Swiggy

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Third tall forward? I think Treacy is that role, and Sturt is a medium forward. It also looks to me like that is the role Amiss would play rather than a genuine KPF.
I think amiss will end up a Cameron kind of key forward.
I think serong could end up at tall midfield
 

premiershipvigil

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Great effort, whilst I dont think Weideman is best 22 I initially struggled with the logic for needing more Key Position depth but I get it now.

Just wonder whether its too risky to use pick 17 for VR when we can get a Van Rooyen type later on in the National Draft or through the rookie draft. Maybe Caminiti?

Drafting quality Key Position depth with early picks has been notoriously difficult (think Luke Molan, Lucas Cook, Smith to name 3 burnt first rounders that spring to mind) so it has not been a pretty story for Melbourne for a long long time.

We've had to trade for key position players apart from MacDonald and Jackson ie: Lever, May, Brown.
 

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briztoon

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Dont think Hobbs suits St Kilda any more than Wanganeen-Milera does. Both too extremes on either the spectrum when St Kilda need someone more in the middle who can bring some class and speed on the outside but also win their own ball.
So Goater or Chesser then?

I find it’s easier to just look at the players drafted after your pick and tell the OP who you believe better suits at your pick.
 

BrutThough

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So Goater or Chesser then?

I find it’s easier to just look at the players drafted after your pick and tell the OP who you believe better suits at your pick.
Basically just any mid that isn't a pure wing or a nuggety specialist inside player.

Seems like we might be in a slightly awkward spot for our needs where we will just miss out on the Erasmus/Ward types who would suit us but the Sinn/Chesser/Goater types who would really suit are projected to be in the back half of the teens rather than near 11. Johnson is the one in that early teens range seems like they would suit us so maybe I will settle on him as the better option.

It's why I wouldn't be surprised if we trade back a few spots on the night if one of the talls or Hobbs miss out on the top 10.
 

briztoon

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Basically just any mid that isn't a pure wing or a nuggety specialist inside player.

Seems like we might be in a slightly awkward spot for our needs where we will just miss out on the Erasmus/Ward types who would suit us but the Sinn/Chesser/Goater types who would really suit are projected to be in the back half of the teens rather than near 11. Johnson is the one in that early teens range seems like they would suit us so maybe I will settle on him as the better option.

It's why I wouldn't be surprised if we trade back a few spots on the night if one of the talls or Hobbs miss out on the top 10.
Sounds like Tyler Sonsie is the type of player you really want then, unless you have a personal bias against shorter mids.

He’s fast, can play inside and outside, but isn’t a wing.

Honestly I wouldn’t get caught up where players are ranked in this year’s draft

Vic Metro dominated the 2019 U16 carnival, and early preseason rankings.

Then the AFL restructured the NAB League, which really negatively affected this year’s boys competition, as they had a very shortened preseason, and a lot of the Vic kids suffered from early season injuries, which greatly impacted their seasons.

Look at the Vic kids who have benefited the most. It’s the kids who have stayed healthy. Where as, it’s mostly the kids who have had injuries who have slid.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all, if in 5 years time Sinn, Chesser and Goater are all jumping up revised draft boards, ahead of Hobbs and Ward.
 

theGav56

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I think amiss will end up a Cameron kind of key forward.
I think serong could end up at tall midfield
I'm thinking Erasmus and Brodie become our tall midfielders. Maybe Chapman or Young.
Keep young & Chapman back… I’m not sold on Brodie hopefully he makes it
Wait a minute. You're not sold on Brodie but think Jai Serong becomes a tall midfielder?
 

Swiggy

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I'm thinking Erasmus and Brodie become our tall midfielders. Maybe Chapman or Young.
Wait a minute. You're not sold on Brodie but think Jai Serong becomes a tall midfielder?
if you read it I said could.

still don’t think Freo have any forwards like serong.
 

BrutThough

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Sounds like Tyler Sonsie is the type of player you really want then, unless you have a personal bias against shorter mids.

He’s fast, can play inside and outside, but isn’t a wing.

Honestly I wouldn’t get caught up where players are ranked in this year’s draft

Vic Metro dominated the 2019 U16 carnival, and early preseason rankings.

Then the AFL restructured the NAB League, which really negatively affected this year’s boys competition, as they had a very shortened preseason, and a lot of the Vic kids suffered from early season injuries, which greatly impacted their seasons.

Look at the Vic kids who have benefited the most. It’s the kids who have stayed healthy. Where as, it’s mostly the kids who have had injuries who have slid.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all, if in 5 years time Sinn, Chesser and Goater are all jumping up revised draft boards, ahead of Hobbs and Ward.
I had forgotten about Sonsie. He is another one who would suit us. He's got the talent to make up for being shorter and you can never have enough elite kicks but we already have a few smaller mids so might favour one of the taller ones just to add something different to our overall mix. If we are confident Owens will make is past 20, he might tick that 'taller mid' box so going shorter with a Sonsie would give us a good mix of mid types.

I'd have him behind Sinn (just seems like someone our recruiters would love) and Johnson in my preference order but wouldn't be disappointed if we took him.
 

premiershipvigil

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Thanks for all the great work, what is your opinion of Taj Woewoedin having the skillset to become a best 22 player?

Would you have nominated him as father-son or punted on being able to get him train pre-season and then select him?
 

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Round 2

Pick 22, North Melbourne: Rhett Bazzo (195/79, KD, Swan Districts).

Pick 23, Hawthorne: Mitchell Knevitt (193/81, IM, Geelong Falcons).

Pick 24, Geelong: Matthew Roberts (183/81, IM, South Adelaide).

Pick 25, Hawthorne: Ned Long (192/88, IM, Northern Knights).

Pick 26, Greater Western Sydney: Josh Fahey (186/76 HB, GWS Academy). Carlton bid, 729-197=592 points, match with picks 47 and 64, go into 115 point deficit 2022

Pick 27, Carlton: Blake Howes (190/79 M/F, Sandringham Dragons).

Pick 28, St. Kilda: Michito Owens (190/85 IM, Sandringham Dragons). Richmond bid, 677-197=480 points, match with picks 54, 58 and 59, have a 68 point surplus

Pick 29, Richmond: Zac Taylor (180/74 SF, Calder Cannons).

Pick 30, Richmond: Leek Alleer (195/84 KD, Central Districts).

Pick 31, Richmond: Kai Lohmann (185/76 Medium Forward, GWV Rebels).

Pick 32, West Coast: Angus Sheldrick (179/84 IM, Claremont).

Pick 33, Geelong: Sam Butler (184/73 SF, GWV Rebels).

Pick 34, St. Kilda: Marcus Windhager (183/82 OM, Sandringham Dragons). Sydney bid, 563-197=366 points, match pick 75 and 68 point surplus, go into 298 point deficit in 2022

Pick 35, Sydney: Judson Clarke (179/69 SF, Dandenong Stingrays).

Pick 36, Geelong: Tom Brown (186/71 Utility, Murray Bushrangers).

Pick 37, Adelaide: Connor Macdonald (184/77 OM, Dandenong Stingrays).

Pick 38, Geelong: Brady Hough (189/71 IM, Peel Thunder).

Pick 39, West Coast: Josh Browne (185/77 IM, East Fremantle).

Pick 40, Melbourne: Jack Williams (194/95 KF, East Fremantle).

Pick 41, Sydney: Charlie Dean (195/86 KD, Williamstown).
Johnson and Sheldrick, dream draft
 

bmaurizio

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For Baggers at p25 , small forwards either Jesse Motlop or Zack Taylor and defense, Bazza or Leek Alleer.
Both positions need to addressed, we’ve lost experienced players in both areas.
 
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