Current Ex Rebels President Assassinated by Sniper Shot at the Motorplex Perth - WA

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Kurve

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Yeah like we said it becomes a slippery slope, I’m in Vic and check in to most places..
Privacy is one of the most fundamental of human rights and it underpins just about everything else. I don't take my smart phone out of the house any more. If I can't sign in anywhere with a pen, I just won't go in. It's been okay so far though.
 

FrankGrimes

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Privacy is one of the most fundamental of human rights and it underpins just about everything else. I don't take my smart phone out of the house any more. If I can't sign in anywhere with a pen, I just won't go in. It's been okay so far though.
Agree, in saying that i do take my phone everywhere basically abs check in, also have had police take my DNA due to the nature of some of the places I work at, but have been assured is only to be used for cross condemnation purposes..
I wonder if I did commit a crime...
 

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Mudman85

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I stand by my comment that the people complaining about it being accessed in this case, are most likely the same people who would be complaining and critical of the police and government for not using it to catch a murderer or paedo if the opportunity was there.
 

zedx

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Is checking in mandatory? Venues can get fined if all the patrons aren’t checked in correctly I believe in Vic?
Checking in is mandatory in WA BUT it is not enforced. I'm always seeing people just walk straight on by OR pretending to check in, which I will admit that I do this when I go to our local Bunnings because soon as I get near the building I lose reception for my app every time! and I refuse to put my details on a sign in sheet which is viewed by all because I've had two situations where men have stalking/ following me home from my local shop.
 

Kurve

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I stand by my comment that the people complaining about it being accessed in this case, are most likely the same people who would be complaining and critical of the police and government for not using it to catch a murderer or paedo if the opportunity was there.
I wouldn't suggest the police breach the trust of the public to catch a murderer or a paedo. That's a bad idea.
 

FrankGrimes

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I wouldn't suggest the police breach the trust of the public to catch a murderer or a paedo. That's a bad idea.
Again it’s hard to say when and when not, what if somebody stole a car and police knew they checked in.. do they use that info? And what if that car was used for a murder getaway car 1 month later.. gets too complex
 
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utility

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If you do not constrain the police and other officers of the Crown, they will do whatever the fu** they want. It's human nature. Go ask Corinna Horvath and see how long it's taken to receive justice (25 years and counting?). https://www.policeaccountability.org.au/corinna-horvath/

The public were told one thing and the government did another. If you allow misbehaviour then it will get worse over time.
 

Kurve

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Aside from the odd cold case review, I haven't noticed the police making the usual appeals to the public for information for a while. Has anybody else noticed it?
 

mooloman

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This is an absolute abuse of power by WAPol and just lazy. Sure, they have to use every resource they can to take murdeters off the streets blah blah. But! They used the Safer WA data to find witnesses. I hazard to say some of those witnesses would prefer not to be anyway involved in a bikie execution, but now will no doubt find themselves subpoenaed. And to be fair the chances of them actually seeing the shooter or where he was is pretty unlikely. No, the police just wanted to dragnet everyone who was there that night to paint a picture. They most likely already had the shooter thanks to Anom anyway.

What did police do before they could use these ‘resources‘ anyway?

This is a very slippery dystopian slope. When does it get to the point police will have the power to stop you to do a health check or check you’ve been vaccinated?

Policing used to be an honourable and respected occupation. Now it’s about intelligence gathering using any means. I’d personally think twice about being in a social setting for example (bbq, house party) if I knew there were off duty police there. I certainly wouldn’t socialise with any. sh*t blokes.
 

BFew

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This is an absolute abuse of power by WAPol and just lazy
Now that it has been revealed that Victoria has similar issues, it will be interesting to see if Victorian get's dragged down the same path as WA, despite their Police Minister being reported as currently not supporting how the WA Government have dealt with this issue.

'New laws to block police from using contact-tracing data appear unlikely, however, after acting Police Minister Danny Pearson said he wanted the option to remain available to authorities in serious cases. The West Australian government moved last week to bring in such laws.'

'The Health Department, which received two requests, and Service Victoria both rejected Victoria Police’s approach, meaning the officers’ only option to access the data would have been to obtain a warrant via court.
Mr Patton said that while filing for a warrant remained an option for a serious indictable offence, the three investigations in December were resolved without the check-in data.'

'Mr Pearson said he was reluctant to replicate Western Australia’s model in Victoria, because he had confidence in the court system.
Mr Pearson gave the hypothetical example of police wanting check-in data to further investigate a suspected terrorist attack.
“I think the idea of introducing legislation to prevent that occurring would lead to a poor public policy outcome,” he said alongside Mr Patton at a hearing of Parliament’s public accounts and estimates committee.'

 
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utility

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Privacy is one of the most fundamental of human rights and it underpins just about everything else. I don't take my smart phone out of the house any more. If I can't sign in anywhere with a pen, I just won't go in. It's been okay so far though.
Anything with a SIM card in it is a tracking device, possibly without you knowing it:


Same goes for newer cars.
 

Deva

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One of the Martin's Tattoo shops "Execution Ink" in Ellenbrook caught fire in the early hours this morning.
 

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It's now reported it was a firebomb plus robbery, i notice the Martins have changed the name of the Tattoo parlour from "Execution Ink" which it has been for years to "Obsidian Ink" for obvious reasons.
On looking up what Obsidian means, its a protective stone that forms a shield against negative energies from the environment and blocks psychic attacks. Hmmm
 

mooloman

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It's now reported it was a firebomb plus robbery, i notice the Martins have changed the name of the Tattoo parlour from "Execution Ink" which it has been for years to "Obsidian Ink" for obvious reasons.
On looking up what Obsidian means, its a protective stone that forms a shield against negative energies from the environment and blocks psychic attacks. Hmmm
Maybe they should have rebranded earlier?
 

Kurve

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If they had enough evidence to do the job they’d be doing the job you’d think.

My gut is telling me old mate wasn’t the trigger man. We’ll see!
Okay, very interesting take.

Thinking here there might be some other police operations playing out around this as well where they all link up possibly through that encrypted app the AFP and the FBI were covertly managing, it could be quite complicated. But as you say, we'll see!
 

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