EXPANDING the SANFL - PROMOTION and RELEGATION ... its time!

Discussion in 'SANFL Board' started by AdsGoNads, Feb 24, 2015.

Put it out there
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Should the SANFL adopt promotion + relegation?

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  1. chazwazza

    chazwazza Norm Smith Medallist

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    Port Power up for relegation soon surely.
     
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  2. GreyCrow

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    And in other good news Port Magpies will take their spot
     
  3. chazwazza

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    Surely Smegpies into Div 2 and Port Power into Div 1. Hinkley gone, Bass to take over as the ultimate Norwood White ant along with Thomas.
    It's a Norwood take over I tells ya!
     
  4. deltablues

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    CA has around 42M+. Better to compare with Texas (around 30M).

    But Oz is totally different to the USA expansion sports-wise. Look at Canada instead.
     
  5. chazwazza

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    None of this P&R discussion should be taken seriously. It's a gaggle of Port nupties trying to put forward an argument to further separate their own underachieving franchise from the 8 traditional SANFL clubs even though they already have every advantage they possibly can have in the comp.
    -Draft any SANFL player with no transfer fees only to have them play all year in the SANFL.
    -Cheat the salary cap 13X every game, even finals.
    -Compete against 8 other traditional SANFL clubs that are restricted to a salary cap of $350k, (basically the wage of one AFL player).
    -Compete against SANFL clubs that have no access to the AFL draft.

    And they have the moronic gall to pretend to discuss promotion and relegation while obviously removing their own whored out franchise from any of their kooked up ideas.

    Treat it for what it is, f***tardedry.
     
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  6. AdsGoNads

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    So salty!

    Either the SANFL continues the same boring trajectory & dies out like the dinosaur it currently is or they re-invent themselves & reconnect with the progressive roots of the competition that once was.

    Simple as that.


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  7. chazwazza

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    "Salty" ......that's all you've got. That you haven't even tried to refute any of the truths I posed I can only assume you agree with me.
    Well done Gonads nupty.
     
  8. AdsGoNads

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    Hahaha - Need I say more!

    But since you've asked:
    You're talking about the SANFL clubs, with no AFL affiliate, playing experienced men and potential AFL draftees that they've scouted from zones, against 18-19yo lean draftees beginning their AFL career. The non-AFL clubs also contain ex-afl players, assuming you're well aware of how full the SANFL is of ex-AFL players who have tons of experience and mature bodies.

    This is just one of the balances you've failed to mention.

    You may have missed the point about raising the salary cap. It would benefit SANFL clubs without an AFL affiliate, allowing them to attract players who are lost to Ammeter clubs, Country Leagues or interstate teams who can afford their services. The SANFL should attract the best outside of the AFL, am I wrong?
    Having said this, the dozen or so non-AFL listed players, playing for the Port Magpies are pay peanuts for their services. Have you noticed how many are retained from season to season? They are developed and quickly snatched by other clubs.

    I guess the difference between Port and other clubs, is Port has always strived to compete at the highest level. Hence their successful bid to join the AFL.
    Maybe this is where we differ, but I see the benefit of allowing genuine community based clubs the opportunity to strive to compete at a higher level. In order to do this, maybe the SANFL need to be expanded to 12-14 teams. There are so many benefits. One I've mentioned is it could even up the home and away draw.. and heck, it might even see us become the first state outside of Vic to send a 3rd team into the AFL.


    Also, you might like to remove the useless insults from your comments. I'm interested in your opinion, but your emotional outbursts water down your argument.
     
  9. marty36

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    You obviously don't have a great deal to do with amateur league clubs if you think they have the long term resources to compete in the SANFL firstly major $$$$$$$ would need to spent on their grounds and then $$$$$ spent on additional staff

    Wandering where you suggest these $$$$$ are going to come from

    There is no goose that laid the golden egg you know


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  10. AdsGoNads

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    Fair question.
    It's no different to P&R in other codes though, a prize purse & concessions for winning a promotion fixes the initial start up. With the promotion comes opportunity for attracting necessary sponsorship.


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    There's a small matter of the 8 traditional clubs owning the SANFL and its assets. They vote. You can postulate about P & R as much as you like. it won't happen because of that & it's financially impossible.

    As for an increased salary cap, it will go the other way, as clubs can't afford more. Neither can the SANFL pay a new club more at the expense of an existing club.

    Great idea in theory, totally impractical to anyone who knows anything about the SANFL.
     
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  12. chazwazza

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    Well said but let's not stop Port Power faffers from devising ways to undermine the SANFL even if it's only in their social media dreams.
     
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    Modbury & Golden Grove and be done with it.
     
  14. SellarStardom

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    The respective state football commissions including the AFL would definitely need to change as they are designed by the traditional clubs for the clubs. I am a big fan of the potential for P&R but the state leagues would need an agreed formula for promotion payments. Both the SA and WA leagues could do it with their stadium developments but for how long?

    Without the potential for a SA league club to go up to a second division national league there is little point.
     
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  15. AdsGoNads

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    Mt Gambier?
     
  16. AdsGoNads

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    Inevitable now.

    Last chance for the SANFL to refresh or become second fiddle to a national reserves comp.
     
  17. Heardy_101

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    With the Barossa and Gawler being prepped for hosting AFL games and cricket matches, they're obviously preparing and spending money in the area to upgrade the ovals for this. Now is the time for a Gawler/Barossa team
     
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    That would kill the Western Border football league for the remaining sides
     
  19. Great8

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    No it’s not. As a comittee member of a club in that area I can tell you no one is in the least bit interested. The money is being used to upgrade existing football grounds that co exist with netball and no club is interested in moving to the SANFL and no club would willingly give up their ground for a new team. The upgrades are mainly to improve infrastructure for a growing junior and women’s program.
     
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