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mightymalaka

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watching afl360 can’t help but think Richo is helpless & has answers. Fmd we ain’t getting out of this rut anytime soon
Sadly. This is too true! Buckle up baby, its going to get ugly!
 

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Actually thought that this was one of his stronger 360 performances.

What was concerning though was that footage of the players coming into Moorabbin, they just looked shellshocked.
yeah well, what can he say.

What he said was fair enough. I actually like when he replied it didn't matter how he felt, but how he could help the players.

Dont know if he can, thats the problem.
 

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Matress Guts out for at least two.

With Long out, we should have Battle and Marshall in for this week.

Bet the campaigners will go for frikken Lonie
Well battle form is nearly terrible. Players need to come in when in form. He is far from that


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Remember the doom and gloom predicted when the Bulldogs lost their Captain and Coach in the same off season.
Two seasons later they hoisted a Flag.
Stability is good. And sometimes change is good.
Who knows what we will do???
Yep its a fair call and we can only hope we can turn it around quickly, but its just really hard to see at the minute.
Never as bad as they seem and never as good they seem is what I'm hoping
 

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Yep its a fair call and we can only hope we can turn it around quickly, but its just really hard to see at the minute.
Never as bad as they seem and never as good they seem is what I'm hoping
I know I am dreaming, but if we got say Sloane and Gaff, things look different, especially if we can finally get Freeman going.
 

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I'm putting this up for feedback coz I'm not sure if I'm convincing myself of my own bulls*** or not.

What I've noticed in the last few weeks, "calmly" observing our team on field is, as I've said before, the seeming lack of structure around the play of the ball. In a contested situation the ratio of any teams players in the scrum verses the possibility of winning the contest isn't linear. So for example, if team "A" has 2 players, and team "B" has 4 players, team B's chances of winning are not double that of team As, but only marginally more because of all the other factors involved, particularly the decreased chances of a controlled outcome because of the increased numbers of bodies.
So with what seems to be Richo's game plane of "numbers to the contest", the resources that get committed to the contest become statistically less effective as numbers increase. What I see is that we are simply crowding extra players just outside the contest within a 2(or so) meter radius, whilst the oppo are committing the same numbers to the contest but setting their extra players further out in clear and repeated structures that allow them to clear the ball out if they win. Whilst our guys (if they win) are literally standing next to a teammate and only 2 meters (max) from the oppo player/s, meaning there is simply no good option to pass off to once we get possession. So in short we are committing more and more resources to an increasingly less likely outcome to try and cheat the roll of the dice, and other teams are playing the odds whilst structuring up to take advantage of any possible win.
So with what's going on Saints commit 4 players to a get a 40% chance and the oppo commit 2 players to get a 30% chance, meaning we double the resources committed for only and extra 25% chance of wining. But coz those resources are taken from the ball clearing area just outside the immediate contest, our ability to clear the ball once we do get possession is significantly reduced and the players needed for applying pressure are left flat footed at the site of the original contest. Simply put we are't getting value for numbers or effort because of the game plan, and that's why our boys are stuffed. Richo has the players bashing their heads against the wall on a losing proposition, and he's answer to why it's not working is that they are not bashing their heads hard enough or for long enough. Am I making this up?
Pretty correct except someone is telling players to handball pretty much regardless even if they are clear to kick.

Classic example are Newnes & Savage who handball hot potato to teammate literally 1 metre away , when their already clear , result is teammate is flat footed , fumbles the ball and immediately under pressure hack the kick forward invariably to opposition or two on 1 .

Impressive stuff I liked about Coffield & Clark they handballed to space and in particular Coffield is very composed
When compared to many of our players who just panic .
 
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neither Lenny or Mitchell would come withing cooowee of our club ... Mitchell has the resorces in his presonal budget at WCE that our club as a whole could only hope for ... he would only move for a head coach spot and even then i doubt he would for our club ....
Lenny loved our club but the club lenny loved is no longer there they are all moved on now so there is no real lure to want to return to the saints he would be more emotionally and professionally invested in GWS now ...
Agree with Mitchell analysis.

Been told by guys who know goings & comings mentioned that the Hayes family may return to Melbourne,
for the long term benefit of wife & kids.
Personally think Lenny would want to work at different clubs to get overall experience before attempting
senior coaching ..
 

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you don't enjoy the football more now? why? because of distance and age? am i right in saying the difference in distance is 11kms?

what about watching it on tv? do you enjoy it more than you did in the 80s?

what previous post? i probably won't go tbh.
I think the big difference between the 80’s and now is the bloody internet, so can understand why plugger66 would prefer then to now. As for myself I too probably got more out of that era & the 70’s because there was no computer/television saturation.
Lose the game, you only got to see a bit on The Winners, read about it the papers on a Monday morning & that was that. Front up the following Saturday & the merry go round would start again.
So that is the difference between then & now.
 

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And make sure he's in stocks so the tomatoes don't miss..........I can just see Bay 36 at Etihad packed with people pitching tomatoes at Richo.

Have to say.....I'd be there..LOL.
For Christ sake dont let Ben Dixon give you throwing training coz you’ll all miss.:p
 

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do you enjoy the football now this season, compared to those dark years in the 80s? what makes you look forward to games now?

I reckon this is a fair point, in the 80s Melbourne was a ghost town. There was literally nothing to do. As kids we were sent out of the house with our BMXs and told to **** off until it got dark. When we got to go to the footy rarely, we thought it was like Christmas. I used to go to Princess park more than Moorabbin because we lived on that side of town and my brother was a Blues fan. My uncle played Carlton reserves too so got the odd free ticket. Any way the point is we enjoyed it because it was literally better than nothing. The generation of kids coming through get instant access to every sport under the sun and have so many activities they enjoy doing nothing now.

The footy in those days was really close up and animal, I can vividly remember the smells, the cold, the sound everything. It was much more sensory than it is in a big impersonal stadium where the players even in the first row seem a long way from the crowds. I can remember players like Bruce Doull having words with people siting next to us and campaigners throwing beer and stuff across you. It was mental but much more memorable. I'm pretty sure my expectations of the Saints were so low I wasn't expecting anything much. Just seeing the players up close was a thrill.
 
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