F1 F1 2024 thread

[Bradesmaen]

Since Spain, Lewis has won 2, George 2, Charles 2, Piastri 2.... Lando 2. He had no business being Champion.

 

[Vader]

Since Spain, Lewis has won 2, George 2, Charles 2, Piastri 2.... Lando 2. He had no business being Champion.

Red Bull had a dominant car for the first 6 races of the season. After that, McLaren have arguably had the fastest car, though results have swung between all 4 of the major teams.

Even if you exclude the first 6 races, Verstappen has still scored more points over the rest of the season than any other driver. He may not have won a lot of races in that time, but his consistency has been second to none - and consistency wins championships.

	To R6	Now	Since R6
Verstappen	136​	403​	267​
Norris	83​	340​	257​
LeClerc	98​	319​	221​
Piastri	41​	268​	227​
Sainz	83​	259​	176​
Russell	37​	217​	180​
Hamilton	27​	208​	181​

As for Lando... the bigger question is whether or not he can hold off LeClerc, for the runner-up position in the 2024 WDC? With 2 races to go, there's only 21 points between them. Today's bonus point for fastest lap could end up being the difference between finishing 2nd and 3rd.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

By your reckoning AFL today isn’t real AFL because of 6/6/6.
And country AFL certainly isn’t real AFL because of the send off rule.
All things that have changed the traditional game. But have generated more followers. Just like T20.

It's garbage for the easily pleased goldfish brigade. They'd be better off just having a bowling machine at each end.

Gee, I really don't like AFL / AR that much. Hang on, they're introducing 6 / 6 / 6, I don't know what that means because I don't follow it, so don't know the rules, but I will follow the game now.

I'm not quite sure I've read anything more nonsensical.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Supercars is a case in point…the new cars make it difficult to get excited. They are trying to carbon copy F1 personality driven interest but it’s still meh

As a kid and young adult I loved the variety of cars and classes of cars that all used to share the track at the same time during the great race.

Works teams, privateers, professional and non-professiinal drivers. I loved everything about it.

Now it's bland.

 

[Barrybran]

Red Bull had a dominant car for the first 6 races of the season. After that, McLaren have arguably had the fastest car, though results have swung between all 4 of the major teams.

Even if you exclude the first 6 races, Verstappen has still scored more points over the rest of the season than any other driver. He may not have won a lot of races in that time, but his consistency has been second to none - and consistency wins championships.

	To R6	Now	Since R6
Verstappen	136​	403​	267​
Norris	83​	340​	257​
LeClerc	98​	319​	221​
Piastri	41​	268​	227​
Sainz	83​	259​	176​
Russell	37​	217​	180​
Hamilton	27​	208​	181​

As for Lando... the bigger question is whether or not he can hold off LeClerc, for the runner-up position in the 2024 WDC? With 2 races to go, there's only 21 points between them. Today's bonus point for fastest lap could end up being the difference between finishing 2nd and 3rd.

It would be hilarious if Leclerc gets past Norris. It isn't happening though short of a Norris DNF.

 

[Vader]

It would be hilarious if Leclerc gets past Norris. It isn't happening though short of a Norris DNF.

I will be cheering loudly for the Monegasque over the last 2 races. As a bonus, Ferrari might just pip McLaren for the Constructors Championship.

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[Gasometer]

Since Spain, Lewis has won 2, George 2, Charles 2, Piastri 2.... Lando 2. He had no business being Champion.

This is why 2025 could be such an even and interesting season…and hopefully one of the best in years

 

[Barrybran]

I will be cheering loudly for the Monegasque over the last 2 races. As a bonus, Ferrari might just pip McLaren for the Constructors Championship.

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I don't mind Lando but he has shown himself to be a bit of a brat this year and Sky's antics were well over the top

 

[Gasometer]

As a kid and young adult I loved the variety of cars and classes of cars that all used to share the track at the same time during the great race.

Works teams, privateers, professional and non-professiinal drivers. I loved everything about it.

Now it's bland.

I saw a TikTok of Dick J doing that lap where he ends up in the trees at Bathurst. Incredible to think he lived and that was considered the norm

 

[Not Important]

whack!

 

[drd23]

Andretti Cadillac was the proposal. Does that mean Cadillac is a go but Andretti isn't?

Apparently the team will still be run by Andretti Global, but GM will be more involved and Michael Andretti basically won't be a part of it. Aim is that by 2028 it is a full factory team running their own engine

 

[Cromulant]

I saw a TikTok of Dick J doing that lap where he ends up in the trees at Bathurst. Incredible to think he lived and that was considered the norm

I mean that was an extreme of the norm but yeah it happened.

It was 86 where a bloke hit the bridge at the end of conrod, hence they put the chase in and arguably made it a better racetrack.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Looking forward to 4 extra cars on the grid.
24 cars/drivers always felt like the best number for F1.

Hopefully it'll make qualifying a bit more interesting. The added risk of congestion on track will force many to just stop playing games and get a time on the board.

 

[Vader]

Looking forward to 4 extra cars on the grid.
24 cars/drivers always felt like the best number for F1.

Hopefully it'll make qualifying a bit more interesting. The added risk of congestion on track will force many to just stop playing games and get a time on the board.

4 extra cars?

GM/Cadillac will bring the F1 grid up to 11 teams & 22 cars. Where is the other team & 2 extra cars coming from?

 

[Neale4brownlow]

4 extra cars?

GM/Cadillac will bring the F1 grid up to 11 teams & 22 cars. Where is the other team & 2 extra cars coming from?

oh yeah, brain fart on my part thinking Audi when they're just taking over Sauber

 

[Jatz]

I'd love 4 extra cars but can't see them extending again.

 

[Vader]

I'd love 4 extra cars but can't see them extending again.

There's scope for another team under the terms of the Concorde Agreement, and they had 3 applications when they called for nominations 1-2 years ago. However, the other 2 bids weren't even close to being up to scratch. Only the Andretti bid, which has now morphed to GM/Cadillac was good enough to proceed.

Liberty Media have completely turned around the finances of F1, with all teams now being worth $1B+ rather than the money drains that they used to be.

I wouldn't be surprised to see other manufacturers looking to join, but they'd want to be well organised if they have any hope of succeeding.

Just putting this out there... maybe a Chinese manufacturer backed team (e.g. Geely) might be a future option, maybe in a few years time.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

There's scope for another team under the terms of the Concorde Agreement, and they had 3 applications when they called for nominations 1-2 years ago. However, the other 2 bids weren't even close to being up to scratch. Only the Andretti bid, which has now morphed to GM/Cadillac was good enough to proceed.

Liberty Media have completely turned around the finances of F1, with all teams now being worth $1B+ rather than the money drains that they used to be.

I wouldn't be surprised to see other manufacturers looking to join, but they'd want to be well organised if they have any hope of succeeding.

Just putting this out there... maybe a Chinese manufacturer backed team (e.g. Geely) might be a future option, maybe in a few years time.

Weren't Porche sniffing around not long ago?

 

[Vader]

The window for manufacturers joining coincides with the introduction of new technical regulations, which resets the development curve for everyone, minimising the technological "catch-up" required by the newcomers.

The new technical regulations are due to take effect in 2026. It's no coincidence that this is when Audi's takeover of Sauber will be completed and GM/Cadillac will join F1. There obviously won't be any other new teams joining in 2026.

The big question is what happens when the next set of technical regulations are introduced, after 2026? We're probably talking around 2030/31. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a new manufacturer/team join at that time - but will it be another European manufacturer? American? Japanese? Chinese? My guess would be Chinese, but that's just a guess based on Chinese cars seemingly taking over the world with the other nations seemingly being years behind their EV manufacturing technology.

 

[Vader]

Weren't Porche sniffing around not long ago?

They will probably buy an existing license, similar to Audi. Alpine or (less likely) Haas would be my guess. Unlikely to bring a completely new team to the grid.

 

[happy_eagle]

Only worth extending if they are going to be competitive.

I don't exactly see what benefit Manor/Marussia/Caterham/Virgin/HRT provided to F1 in the previous era, apart from extra seats on the grid for pay drivers like Rio Haryanto.

 

[Vader]

Weren't Porche sniffing around not long ago?

Counter to my previous statement, I don't think that's going to happen. Both Audi & Porsche are owned by the Volkswagen Group. I suspect the Porsche interest was superseded by the decision to back Audi's takeover of Sauber.

I can't see Volkswagen supporting 2 F1 teams. Red Bull do it - but I can't see Volkswagen having that level of obsession with F1.

** Every time you see someone driving a Porsche, just remind yourself they're driving a glorified Beetle.

 

[Cromulant]

The new Alpine CEO tried to bring his own team Trident into F1 a couple years ago and was knocked back.

Its a massive step for the guys underneath to bring their teams through.

 

[Vader]

The other teams which applied to join F1 in 2026 were Hitech, Rodin Carlin, LKY SUNZ, and Formula Equal.

Hitech and Rodin Carlin were looking to step up from F2, F3 & F4. Interestingly, Rodin Carlin were looking to manufacture their cars in NZ, and employing a female driver (Jamie Chadwick).

The bids by LKY SUNZ and Formula Equal pretty much collapsed before they even got to the start line.

Source: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/...e-bidding-to-join-f1-from-andretti-to-hitech/

 

[Cromulant]

The other teams which applied to join F1 in 2026 were Hitech, Rodin Carlin, LKY SUNZ, and Formula Equal.

Hitech and Rodin Carlin were looking to step up from F2, F3 & F4. Interestingly, Rodin Carlin were looking to manufacture their cars in NZ, and employing a female driver (Jamie Chadwick).

The bids by LKY SUNZ and Formula Equal pretty much collapsed before they even got to the start line.

Source: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/...e-bidding-to-join-f1-from-andretti-to-hitech/

Hitech, thats the one.