F1 F1 2024 thread

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[Barrybran]

Interesting discussion re points

 

[TheEscapeClub]

I find it interesting that a lot of people in here think that Ricciardo is done and dusted and Oscar has it all in front of him but most of the Aussie posting focus centres around Ricciardo.

I hope what Daniel showed us in the 33 laps of his race is a sign of things to come for the rest of the season.

 

[jabba5114]

Interesting discussion re points

**** no I don't. Hate that the changed the original point system. Hate they are going to top 12. People will make excuses it will cause better racing no it won't.

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[gaskin]

It is being reported by German sources that Hulk to Audi is pretty much a done deal.

 

[jabba5114]

It is being reported by German sources that Hulk to Audi is pretty much a done deal.

Surely Hulk and Sainz. Rumours of gasly and ocon leaving alpine as well. Not sure where they end up if true

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[happy_eagle]

* no I don't. Hate that the changed the original point system. Hate they are going to top 12. People will make excuses it will cause better racing no it won't.

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What is the counter argument, apart from being against change in general ?

 

[Barrybran]

Surely Hulk and Sainz. Rumours of gasly and ocon leaving alpine as well. Not sure where they end up if true

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Alpine might be a good lifeline for someone like Magnussen, who I expect to be out of a seat at the end of the year. Might also be an opportunity for Theo Pourchaire as he won't be seeing F1 action at Sauber/Audi.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Alpine might be a good lifeline for someone like Magnussen, who I expect to be out of a seat at the end of the year. Might also be an opportunity for Theo Pourchaire as he won't be seeing F1 action at Sauber/Audi.

More likely to see Magnussen end up in the WEC than in another F1 seat next year. I'm surprised Audi are willing to take a punt on a 37 year old Hulkenberg next year rather than someone like Pouchaire or Drugovich if Sainz is a done deal.

 

[gaskin]

More likely to see Magnussen end up in the WEC than in another F1 seat next year. I'm surprised Audi are willing to take a punt on a 37 year old Hulkenberg next year rather than someone like Pouchaire or Drugovich if Sainz is a done deal.

German team want a German driver. Although according to the German's on Reddit nobody cares about him despite Sky Germany continually trying to shove him down their throats.

Sainz is also far from a done deal but they are pushing extremely hard to get him.

 

[Barrybran]

More likely to see Magnussen end up in the WEC than in another F1 seat next year. I'm surprised Audi are willing to take a punt on a 37 year old Hulkenberg next year rather than someone like Pouchaire or Drugovich if Sainz is a done deal.

Yeah its an interesting one. If Ocon and Gasly want out I don't know what their options are aside from Haas and maybe Williams. If they leave though, Alpine's options are similarly limited as they would likely want an experienced driver in their lineup, leaving their choice between Magnussen and Bottas.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Hulk is a 1 lap specialist. Doesn't serve Audi to have him on the team to be honest. I also doubt they want to go for a young german driver, so maybe they might for for Mick?

 

[jabba5114]

What is the counter argument, apart from being against change in general ?

Should be top 8 at a minimum. Should be the best of the best to get points. Bad enough we have drivers who shouldn't be in the sport now we just want to give everyone points

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[Barrybran]

Should be top 8 at a minimum. Should be the best of the best to get points. Bad enough we have drivers who shouldn't be in the sport now we just want to give everyone points

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At the moment there are seven drivers without a point this year - Albon, Ocon, Zhou, Ricciardo, Gasly, Bottas and Sargaent - and Ollie Bearman has outscored two other drivers because he got to drive a better car one weekend compared to everyone else that has been driving shitboxes across the six events to date. I actually agree with Crofty's sentiments in the snippet I posted. Points all the way down but only if you finish. The championship this year is for second but there is a battle. There is also a battle between the bottom five teams but it comes down to who is in the right place at the right time when one of the top five teams' cars fails as opposed to consistency across 24 weeks.

 

[gaskin]

 

[gaskin]

Andretti must know something we don't. They have opened up a heap of jobs at their new Silverstone site. I doubt they open a factory at Silverstone if they aren't entering F1.

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[Bradesmaen]

 

[Sonny Hayes]

Should be top 8 at a minimum. Should be the best of the best to get points. Bad enough we have drivers who shouldn't be in the sport now we just want to give everyone points

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I honestly for the life of me can't figure out the issue, what is the downside? All it will do is add intrigue in to the mid tier teams/drivers. I personally don't like the idea of all 20. But i think 12 is a nice in between.

A) It is good to reward good drives from people in cars that just can't compete with the top top teams.

B) It makes it so legit 1 random outlier race can't decide millions of difference of dollars in the constructors.

 

[skam85]

Hulk is a 1 lap specialist. Doesn't serve Audi to have him on the team to be honest. I also doubt they want to go for a young german driver, so maybe they might for for Mick?

The issue with that is that Mick isn't an any lap specialist

 

[skam85]

What is the counter argument, apart from being against change in general ?

It's very much participation award territory.
Historical points totals are tarnished already moving from top 6 to 8 to 10.

10 is fine. It gives motivation for teams to push to improve and be regular points finishers.

It's great when someone like a Haas sneaks into 9th or 10th, look at Hulk/Kmag in Jeddah when Magnussen was playing mobile chicane for the team just so Hulk could get a point.

You won't have energy like that anymore when literally every driver is rewarded for getting to the finish line, which let's face it, with today's reliability is very very common anyway.

 

[Barrybran]

It's very much participation award territory.
Historical points totals are tarnished already moving from top 6 to 8 to 10.

10 is fine. It gives motivation for teams to push to improve and be regular points finishers.

It's great when someone like a Haas sneaks into 9th or 10th, look at Hulk/Kmag in Jeddah when Magnussen was playing mobile chicane for the team just so Hulk could get a point.

You won't have energy like that anymore when literally every driver is rewarded for getting to the finish line, which let's face it, with today's reliability is very very common anyway.

The opposite will happen. You think points are valuable now? Imagine if finishing 13th instead of 14th actually means something.

 

[Tandy]

Wouldn't mind seeing Vandoorne get another crack at it.

 

[ReidBetweenTheLines]

Good news for F1 fans. Another 5 years of the best driver in the best car would have been intolerable.

Newley should do something fun and go work for Sauber or Williams. He’s surely got enough money so mix things up a bit.

 

[happy_eagle]

Will likely leave F1 without that podium.
Although people are saying he could be in Audi in 2026 if they want a German driver (really scraping the barrel for German drivers)

 

[gaskin]

Will likely leave F1 without that podium.
Although people are saying he could be in Audi in 2026 if they want a German driver (really scraping the barrel for German drivers)

The reports were accurate.