Facebook vs Scomo and Frypan

[NSWCROW]

 

[Pessimistic]

Well, Facebook got three pages of proposed amendments passed including one in which, according to itNews:

The amendments, which will be introduced today, will see the government take into account existing commercial deals with media companies when designating tech companies under the code.

It will effectively mean tech giants such Google and Facebook can escape inclusion, as long as they have “made a significant contribution to the sustainability of the Australian news industry”.

So, all Facebook and Google need to do is argue that they are making a significant contribution to the Australian news industry through their agreements - and the provisions won't apply to them.

OTOH, the Govt got "re-friended". If the rest of the world was "watching to see how Australia regulates Big Tech", they'd be rather disappointed. At least Abbott would have threatened Zuck with a shirtfront.



"Australia makes laws that advance our national interest and we won’t be responding to coercion or heavy-handed tactics, wherever they come from," Mr Frydenberg said. "We want a sustainable media environment and key to that is to seek payment for original journalistic content.
"And so we’re committed to these reforms – we won’t be bullied, no matter how big the international company is, no matter how powerful they are, no matter how valuable they are."

So it’s a mining tax type legislation. Except these people pay very little tax

 

[FRUMPY]

And the dole has gone up $25 a week, that’s $1 for every year since the last rise (Paul Keating was treasurer)

they should have held out longer, would have got a bigger rise

 

[FRUMPY]

Well, Facebook got three pages of proposed amendments passed including one in which, according to itNews:

The amendments, which will be introduced today, will see the government take into account existing commercial deals with media companies when designating tech companies under the code.

It will effectively mean tech giants such Google and Facebook can escape inclusion, as long as they have “made a significant contribution to the sustainability of the Australian news industry”.

So, all Facebook and Google need to do is argue that they are making a significant contribution to the Australian news industry through their agreements - and the provisions won't apply to them.

OTOH, the Govt got "re-friended". If the rest of the world was "watching to see how Australia regulates Big Tech", they'd be rather disappointed. At least Abbott would have threatened Zuck with a shirtfront.



"Australia makes laws that advance our national interest and we won’t be responding to coercion or heavy-handed tactics, wherever they come from," Mr Frydenberg said. "We want a sustainable media environment and key to that is to seek payment for original journalistic content.
"And so we’re committed to these reforms – we won’t be bullied, no matter how big the international company is, no matter how powerful they are, no matter how valuable they are."

So the big fish they wanted to get money out of will basically get off without paying much if anything? I think i know who won

 

[sherb]

I like using Facebook but I am far from a fan of Facebook the organization. So I'm loathe to take their side in this.

But I don't understand why they should pay news organizations for their FB content.

These organizations are on the platform voluntarily and share the content themselves. Why should they be paid for that?

If the news organizations weren't on FB and FB was pinching content from their websites, I'd understand.

If the news organizations don't like not being paid for what they post on FB, nothing is making them stay on the platform.

 

[NSWCROW]

Facebook got everything it wanted out of Australia by being willing to do what the other guy wouldn’t

"One cannot be betrayed if one has no people."

www.niemanlab.org

 

[Bradesmaen]

Wait... a company has to earn 150k a year to get money from Facebook? So much about being for the independents.

 

[Fire]

For sure. FB and Google have basically been stealing content for years and profiting off it. Its their prime money earner.

That's the most technologically illiterate thing I've seen in a while.

 

[NSWCROW]

 

[Bunk Moreland]

That does actually sum it up quite well.

The LNP, the media and big business are in the big grift circle... and the media is an absolutely critical part of that.

But big tech is delivering people other media that isn’t in the circle.

For how long?

 

[Ross]

The Australien Government, Michael West and Jordies all in the same video.

 

[NSWCROW]

The Australien Government, Michael West and Jordies all in the same video.

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Havent had a good " THA LIBRULL GUVVAMUNT !!! " from FJ in ages either lol