Fagan's Rant: Danger for the Game

[sauce_head]

This post is in response to Chris Fagan stating that "the hefty price tags attached to the signatures of Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera and Tom De Koning were a "danger" to the rest of the League."

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This stance is rather ironic coming from the coach of the club which has benefitted so greatly from an unequal system.

It is the northern academies that Brisbane and Gold Coast and to a slightly lesser extent Sydney and GWS have had exclusive access to some of the very best players at very low draft cost. The benefits were confered because these academies were sourcing talent from traditional Rugby League regions but the concessions have resulted in a much more unequal competition. This has been and will remain for some time the most serious danger for the game.

The AFL has finally conceded that the benefits derived were so egregious that they are significantly tightening regulations for Northern Academies (Brisbane, Gold Coast, GWS, Sydney), requiring earlier applications (15th year), stricter development proof, and minimum, mandatory investment requirements to retain bidding rights. While clubs can still match bids for academy talent, they will face higher costs and stricter scrutiny to ensure development.

Now that Fagan is losing one of his advantages and is forced to compete on a more level playing field, he has turned into a whinger.

His club has been built up with such a wealth of talent that he fears that he may not be able to retain all his players, many of whom could be earning significantly more in today's salary potential.

St Kilda have been forced to compete this way (huge salary enticement) because we cannot compete by relying on draft alone - we will fall further and further behind even with the reduction in northern concessions, we were forced to innovate to compete. The St Kilda approach may result in a rebalance of player payments throughout the league but it was directly brought about because of the huge advantage of the northern clubs' concessions and consequent concentrated accumulation of talent.

Poor old Nepo-Dad.

 

[Schwarzes_Goal]

The biggest thing I have taken from this is how far the debate around the northern acadamies along with the other inequities of the competition has shifted in the last 24 months.

After Bassett's speech at the B&F the popular opinion was "Shut up and get your own house in order St Kilda."

Today, Fagan's comments have been met with many in the media and the general public pointing out the advantages the Lions have been given and suggesting this is what has caused our club to have to go down this path.

Could not be more impressed with the club being the leading voice on this.
We copped the hits early on in this crusade but it seems as though more and more are getting on board.

 

[sauce_head]

The biggest thing I have taken from this is how far the debate around the northern acadamies along with the other inequities of the competition has shifted in the last 24 months.

After Bassett's speech at the B&F the popular opinion was "Shut up and get your own house in order St Kilda."

Today, Fagan's comments have been met with many in the media and the general public pointing out the advantages the Lions have been given and suggesting this is what has caused our club to have to go down this path.

Could not be more impressed with the club being the leading voice on this.
We copped the hits early on in this crusade but it seems as though more and more are getting on board.

What a great account name you have!

 

[Schwarzes_Goal]

What a great account name you have!

Still to this day one of my favourite moments supporting this club

 

[Jade Buddha]

A Fagrant

 

[Verdun]

The biggest thing I have taken from this is how far the debate around the northern acadamies along with the other inequities of the competition has shifted in the last 24 months.

After Bassett's speech at the B&F the popular opinion was "Shut up and get your own house in order St Kilda."

Today, Fagan's comments have been met with many in the media and the general public pointing out the advantages the Lions have been given and suggesting this is what has caused our club to have to go down this path.

Could not be more impressed with the club being the leading voice on this.
We copped the hits early on in this crusade but it seems as though more and more are getting on board.

Yeah besides Andy Maher and his cohorts going on a rant that the St Kilda Chair should not have called out Fagan's comments ......no need only doing it to try and change the recruiting landscape ......welll duh!

There is definetly an element out there think the Saints need put up and shut up, not talk out and continue to be the whipping boy.

Agree with others that the tide is turning a bit with some agreeing that Fagan's comments are guff and St Kilda is having a crack and heading in the right direction

 

[PoppedCorn]

Hey Fages

 

[TheNewEnsign]

More like danger to the three-peat amirite.

 

[CursingFijian]

https://archive.is/SY3I2

"Given he holds an approval rating with the footy public that Donald Trump would kill for, now is a good time for Fagan to jump out of his grandfatherly armchair and onto a soapbox.

Here’s hoping Fagan bins any apology thoughts and really opens up the fiercely competitive streak that has carried him to the top of the mountain.

Unsurprisingly, St Kilda reacted like Bazballers when Carl Dilena found himself suddenly being attacked and counter-punched the other way by biting back at Fagan.

The Saints love a quote brawl.

Perhaps Fagan does too, and perhaps the coach picked a moment to drop his unvarnished thoughts having inspected and admired St Kilda’s bold plan."

 

[karnaby]

A couple of years ago we tried to get McCluggage to come to us.
My (limited) recollection is that he agreed to stay there on somewhat less money, rather than accept our more generous offer.
A few thoughts on this in light of fagan's comments:
1 - if we'd got McCluggage we might have been more competitive, and, maybe the afl might have been just a bit more equal.
2 - we didn't get to spend that bucket of money in an effort to improve our circumstances (& fk knows we tried to get plenty of others thru the door!) So we were left to bank that unspent TPP for another day.
3 - rinse and repeat over quite a few years (others will be able to fill some gaps) but - de goey, kelly, draper, fyfe, xerri, + +

So, what are we left with as alternatives?
Spend up big

We did it.
I'm flipping glad we did it!
And anyone who wants to have a crack at us for doing so can **** off!

 

[gringo2011]

A couple of years ago we tried to get McCluggage to come to us.
My (limited) recollection is that he agreed to stay there on somewhat less money, rather than accept our more generous offer.
A few thoughts on this in light of fagan's comments:
1 - if we'd got McCluggage we might have been more competitive, and, maybe the afl might have been just a bit more equal.
2 - we didn't get to spend that bucket of money in an effort to improve our circumstances (& fk knows we tried to get plenty of others thru the door!) So we were left to bank that unspent TPP for another day.
3 - rinse and repeat over quite a few years (others will be able to fill some gaps) but - de goey, kelly, draper, fyfe, xerri, + +

So, what are we left with as alternatives?
Spend up big

We did it.
I'm flipping glad we did it!
And anyone who wants to have a crack at us for doing so can **** off!

He needs to fight off complacency and distraction from Neale's extra marital shit. It also gets the Lions valuable media minutes up in Queensland. I doubt any of them take it too seriously. The coaches might use it for a bit of extra rev up when we play them, but doubt anyone but fans care.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I love that we are biting back now.

Sassy St Kilda is best St Kilda

 

[goodie23]

He needs to fight off complacency and distraction from Neale's extra marital shit. It also gets the Lions valuable media minutes up in Queensland. I doubt any of them take it too seriously. The coaches might use it for a bit of extra rev up when we play them, but doubt anyone but fans care.

Lashing out at others to distract from in house mess - that playbook sounds familiar

 

[Diehard Saint]

https://archive.is/SY3I2

"Given he holds an approval rating with the footy public that Donald Trump would kill for, now is a good time for Fagan to jump out of his grandfatherly armchair and onto a soapbox.

Here’s hoping Fagan bins any apology thoughts and really opens up the fiercely competitive streak that has carried him to the top of the mountain.

Unsurprisingly, St Kilda reacted like Bazballers when Carl Dilena found himself suddenly being attacked and counter-punched the other way by biting back at Fagan.

The Saints love a quote brawl.

Perhaps Fagan does too, and perhaps the coach picked a moment to drop his unvarnished thoughts having inspected and admired St Kilda’s bold plan."

What a load of cr@p!

 

[Joffaboy]

What a great account name you have!

Still not as good as David_Stroopers_Headband but pretty bloody goid.

 

[Joffaboy]

Anybody really surprised he went after the best indigeneous player in the game. The old boomer has form when it comes to denigrating indigeneous player.
Probably saw the Saints have 7 first nations players on the books and got his little bigotted heart racing.

 

[Username Unknown]

Anybody really surprised he went after the best indigeneous player in the game. The old boomer has form when it comes to denigrating indigeneous player.
Probably saw the Saints have 7 first nations players on the books and got his little bigotted heart racing.

 

[Saint Kidding]

Fagan's distract the moron's technique has worked well. The Brisbane list management thread is more interested in St Kilda than their own team.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I’ve decided to deal with this silly old coot by nicknaming him “Reeroads” and eagerly awaiting every Charlie Cameron

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[beside the seaside]

I remember once upon a time they made Daniher the highest paid player in the game.

He went on to win them a flag.

Short memory has Fagan.

 

[True Believer]

I remember once upon a time they made Daniher the highest paid player in the game.

He went on to win them a flag.

Short memory has Fagan.

Happens with age..........

 

[Hayes4PM]

I hope we really lean into the options for shithousery with this. Like pay to fly out that Tess Crossley bird and sit her right behind the lions interchange bench. Scratch that, buy ALL the tickets behind the interchange bench for like, 20 seats, and just sit here there behind their interchange by herself. Then have a club spokesperson put out a statement basically saying "how we spend our money is our business".

 

[JG22]

I hope we really lean into the options for shithousery with this. Like pay to fly out that Tess Crossley bird and sit her right behind the lions interchange bench. Scratch that, buy ALL the tickets behind the interchange bench for like, 20 seats, and just sit here there behind their interchange by herself. Then have a club spokesperson put out a statement basically saying "how we spend our money is our business".

lmao

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I love that we are biting back now.

 

[PrimalConstruct]

Didn’t Sydney have an extra 10% to spend. Forked out, with such advantage, a ten mil deal for Franklin.

$10m of 2013 money, so about $14m in today's money.