Famous Athiest Now Believes In God

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Freo Big Fella said:
Funnily enough, it was www.rosicrucians.org. I guess christians do have something vaguely resembling a sense of humour?

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No. Stupidity is not confined to people of faith.
LOL

its suprising that any intelligent people believe in creation myth.

Its suprising that there are people who still believe the hindu myth, or even the islamic myth.

you might as well have the greek/roman mythology, I'm sure if you were blind enough you could come up with 'science' to prove it.

in fact without going into too much detail, wouldn't a lot of the 'proofs' of creationism support the greek/roman mythos?
 

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Rookie said:
But we're all people of faith. Faith in God, faith in a Supreme being, faith in nothing of the sort, faith in oneself.
ok faith in an external being that controls and dictates policy for life is not taking responsibility for the decisions and actions you make through your life.

I would say I am far more ethical and honest than many good and upstanding christians, muslims, hindus etc.
 

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dan warna said:
LOL

its suprising that any intelligent people believe in creation myth.
I find it suprising that so many people blindly accept the atheistic/evolutionary theories so often portrayed as 'fact'.

dan warna said:
ok faith in an external being that controls and dictates policy for life is not taking responsibility for the decisions and actions you make through your life.

I would say I am far more ethical and honest than many good and upstanding christians, muslims, hindus etc.
Perhaps you may be more ethical. Good for you. What does that prove?

How is belief in a higher being (God) a coping-out of responsibility? Surely being held accountable for your actions as compared to absolute morals is more responsible than merely being accountable to oneself?
 

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I particularly like the way they manage on one hand to believe he is all powerful, all seeing and able to act how He pleases ... yet on the other hand they have the arrogance to tell us what He believes.

If their idea of God is right then he could well have changed all the rules and not elected to tell anyone.

I think the true Christian would be the one who when asked what God's will or plan is, just shrugged their shoulders. When asked about how salvation is acheived answered, "can't really know for sure."

When Christians declare people to be sinners or bound for hell, they are presuming to know God's will ... that is surely a sin. So I would have thought that Birdy is the most likely person on this thread due for hot spikes in the rectum on.
Weaver you trying to manipulate God into a being of your own making. If you want to know the will of God a good place to start would be reading His book!
 

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Is it so hard to believe that a once-famous atheist now acknowledges the impossibility of life without specific creation of some sort?
I couldn't care less if he believed in God, good for him, just don't crap on with mystical science to try to prove it.
 

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I find it suprising that so many people blindly accept the atheistic/evolutionary theories so often portrayed as 'fact'.
Why? 200 years of explanation not enough for you? Science and religion can live in harmony you know.

You must be one of these people who believes

The World is flat
The Earth is the Centre of the Universe
The Sun revolves around the Earth
 

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#37
Birdy said:
God knows what you are planning to do and He will not let you cheat your way out of hell.

As for this old codger, it doesn't matter whether he has finally noticed God is reaching out to him as he still turns his back on God and rejects His offer of salvation. He is hell bound and I doubt after 81 years anything will change his ways, although with God anything is possible.
Ahh... The escape clause. Nice work Birdy. Although, in future, you should make that final statement in fine print so that most people wont pick the holes in the scam.
 

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Weaver you trying to manipulate God into a being of your own making. If you want to know the will of God a good place to start would be reading His book!
Why not this guy you are defending has. He does not believe in a christian god, he likened him to Saddam Hussain. All Gods are entities of your own belief, otherwise why is thier thousands of Christian Churches exspousing different views, you also see different views of god in Judaism and Islam with all thier different sects.
 

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Birdy said:
Weaver you trying to manipulate God into a being of your own making. If you want to know the will of God a good place to start would be reading His book!
He might have changed all the rules in the last 2000 years and elected not to tell us. He is God afterall. I think your claim to know the will of God and know who is or isn't a sinner, is sinful.

If you claim to believe in God, then you can never hope to know or understand him. He is either knowable which means He is not a God, or unknowable which means you are just guessing what He wants.
 

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He might have changed all the rules in the last 2000 years and elected not to tell us. He is God afterall. I think your claim to know the will of God and know who is or isn't a sinner, is sinful.

If you claim to believe in God, then you can never hope to know or understand him. He is either knowable which means He is not a God, or unknowable which means you are just guessing what He wants.
Well thats very interesting because I do know God and He is not a deceiver.
 

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Why not this guy you are defending has. He does not believe in a christian god, he likened him to Saddam Hussain. All Gods are entities of your own belief, otherwise why is thier thousands of Christian Churches exspousing different views, you also see different views of god in Judaism and Islam with all thier different sects.
Of course this fool likens Him to Saddam, because he hates His word and therefore belongs in hell. I couldn't care about the views of churches, if you ask Him God will show you the way.
 

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Leper said:
God takes it up the.....

(any) religion = complete a load of bollocks to control the masses.
Leper you stupid heretic, atheism is religion but you don't need to tell me it's a load of bollocks.
 

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#46
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Of course this fool likens Him to Saddam, because he hates His word and therefore belongs in hell. I couldn't care about the views of churches, if you ask Him God will show you the way.
So

1 What god tells you wouldn't be interpreted by a different person differently?

2 If you do indeed read the bible you do not think other people will interpret it differently?

3 You have no need to go to 1 of thousands of different churches, with different views because this could conflict with what God tells you?

Birdy, I have no doubt you have deep faith and it does not bother me, but a mixture of faith and logic does a more balanced person make.
 

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#48
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Leper you stupid heretic, atheism is religion but you don't need to tell me it's a load of bollocks.
You're cracking jokes aren't you.

ps - what do you have to say about all those priests who do things to little boys, not to mention the establishments that condone it by simply moving the perpetrators aside and not expelling them????
 

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#49
Leper said:
You're cracking jokes aren't you.

ps - what do you have to say about all those priests who do things to little boys, not to mention the establishments that condone it by simply moving the perpetrators aside and not expelling them????
just another example of good xian behaviour.

disgusting hypocrits.
:)
 

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#50
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You can convert at any time PerthCrow but I wonder if that is easier said than done. Remember you cannot fool God, He knows what is in your heart, He knows all your thoughts, motives and intentions. If you do not believe now, what makes you think you will suddenly believe on your death bed? Professing with your mouth you have accepted Christ is meaningless if you have not accepted Him in your heart. Also God knows what you are planning to do and He will not let you cheat your way out of hell.




How do you know that?. Hopefully you have an answer better than,"I read it in an book."
 
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