Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011 (Part 1)

[LemmingMaster]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Martin would have been an amazing pick (by the looks of it so far) did any of the "famous" coaches have him in their starting side?

I have him in my draft league, he is dominating...

Never really considered him for my team, Scully was being considered, so that would have been interesting to see how he would have scored if fit.

 

[pillager]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

There have been some very successful rookie priced players at the start of the year. The big standouts have been Heppell, Curnow, Libberatore, and Darling. Are coaches more inclined to keep these guys for the majority of the year due to the byes? It is certainly something that I am considering given that we still have plenty of other cash cows fattening up. I was contemplating keeping Harris for the whole year but after Essendon's demolition job on the Gold Coast over the weekend, I am less inclined to do so.

 

[mollyfud]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

There have been some very successful rookie priced players at the start of the year. The big standouts have been Heppell, Curnow, Libberatore, and Darling. Are coaches more inclined to keep these guys for the majority of the year due to the byes? It is certainly something that I am considering given that we still have plenty of other cash cows fattening up. I was contemplating keeping Harris for the whole year but after Essendon's demolition job on the Gold Coast over the weekend, I am less inclined to do so.

I am trying to put together the "Wow" top of the tree prems rather then fallen players who may return to glory or I can afford this guy prems. I therefor will after around about round 11 have top of the line in all but about 4 spots (Suckling/Heppell in defence and Knights/Petrie in the Forwards). I will have Swallow as 7th mid and a prem F/M in my mids so will use MPP to cover the other areas. Was considering also looking at Deliedo as 7th mid/swapping back as an option as well. Would give me a Premium MPP in the mids for both back and Fwd.

Byes are a concern, but if things went well, would hope to have trades in final few rounds to cover them. Plus Heppell/Hibberd as only bombers.
JMTC

 

[dee64]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

The thing with picking midpricers isn't how they score overall. Quite often people will look at a player from the year before and see they increased their average from say 50 to 80 and people will that player was a good pick. When you look closely the player averaged 65 for the first 8 rounds and then say 85 for the last 14 rounds and it looks like a great pick. The thing it really doesn't matter what these players do later in the season. It's that first 6-8 rounds that is KEY with these mid pricers. This is the time when you hope that the smokey you picked jumps out of the block and by round 7 or 8 you can do a virtual straight swap for a gun that has either started slow or got hurt in a game or got tagged out of a game thus temporarily reducing his price. It is the perfect storm that we dream about and perhaps in reality it is too hard to achieve to be worth trying for.

Really insightful and well-made point FL18.

 

[Juddy88]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Has there been a ranking and trading update for this round?

 

[Jolldo87]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Has there been a ranking and trading update for this round?

Not yet.

 

[GiantForce]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Wonder what stupid trades he'll do this week?

Swan to Chapman
Pendlebury to Bartel


haha. scary thing is he probaley will

 

[The Made Guy]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Wonder what stupid trades he'll do this week?

Swan to Chapman
Pendlebury to Bartel

Are you referring to Dr DT?

The thing is, if you're facing a certain donut in the midfield this round, and you can identify a super-premium in the midfield who is severely under-priced and about to climb (Selwood, Bartel?), it might not be the worst idea of all time to consider a "repo" with Swan for a couple of weeks??

We're at the start of upgrading season, so you're going to be bringing in a premium midfielder in R9 or thereabouts for Libba/Harris etc, why can't it be Swan (again) for $30K less than his current price. In the meantime, you avoid the donut this round, and possibly get a Selwood/Bartel at close to their low.

Any DTFCs wish to comment on this?

 

[banana_bus]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Are you referring to Dr DT?

The thing is, if you're facing a certain donut in the midfield this round, and you can identify a super-premium in the midfield who is severely under-priced and about to climb (Selwood, Bartel?), it might not be the worst idea of all time to consider a "repo" with Swan for a couple of weeks??

We're at the start of upgrading season, so you're going to be bringing in a premium midfielder in R9 or thereabouts for Libba/Harris etc, why can't it be Swan (again) for $30K less than his current price. In the meantime, you avoid the donut this round, and possibly get a Selwood/Bartel at close to their low.

Any DTFCs wish to comment on this?

If Swan was 5k more I would have seriously contemplated trading him to Redden this week and then getting him back in in a couple of weeks time...

I think the idea has merit just has to be the right place at right time...

 

[The Made Guy]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

If Swan was 5k more I would have seriously contemplated trading him to Redden this week and then getting him back in in a couple of weeks time...

I think the idea has merit just has to be the right place at right time...

Thanks for your thoughts. You regard Redden as under-priced AND a member of your ultimate midfield six? Because I think the idea can only "stick" if those two conditions are clearly met. Even then, it has a whiff of Dr DT about it....LOL

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Are you referring to Dr DT?

The thing is, if you're facing a certain donut in the midfield this round, and you can identify a super-premium in the midfield who is severely under-priced and about to climb (Selwood, Bartel?), it might not be the worst idea of all time to consider a "repo" with Swan for a couple of weeks??

We're at the start of upgrading season, so you're going to be bringing in a premium midfielder in R9 or thereabouts for Libba/Harris etc, why can't it be Swan (again) for $30K less than his current price. In the meantime, you avoid the donut this round, and possibly get a Selwood/Bartel at close to their low.

Any DTFCs wish to comment on this?

If Swan had a massive breakeven, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

I'm actually strongly considering trading Roo this week and bringing him back later.

 

[Cat for Life]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Also Redden has already had a bye, so you save a bye by doing the trade. When Dr Dt traded Watson in he didn't save any bye.

 

[pillager]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

If Swan was 5k more I would have seriously contemplated trading him to Redden this week and then getting him back in in a couple of weeks time...

I think the idea has merit just has to be the right place at right time...

This kind of move is extremely ballsy.

I know he has the bye this week but...

He has the ability to churn out a massive score and most coaches will have the big C on him. It could become very costly, very quickly.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Some of these trade ideas at times seem a little crazy, I keep wondering if the fact we have 24 trades is that altering our perception of what is okay. It will be interesting in the multi bye rounds later in the season and how we're dealing with injuries and byes.

I still hope to have premium players as my F8/M7 and maybe B8/M8 position.

 

[Gghippo]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

At the time I thought FL18 made a poor decision trading our Prestia and the decision would come back to haunt him... But in hindsight it looks like he made a good call.

I don't believe anyone without inside knowledge could have predicted that 'general soreness' would have kept Prestia out of the GC side for 3+ weeks!!

FL18 do you have something you would like to share? Or did you just get lucky?

 

[Narkee]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

I still hope to have premium players as my F8/M7 and maybe B8/M8 position.

I have no doubt the overall winner will have this set up!

 

[dylan123]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Some of these trade ideas at times seem a little crazy, I keep wondering if the fact we have 24 trades is that altering our perception of what is okay. It will be interesting in the multi bye rounds later in the season and how we're dealing with injuries and byes.

I still hope to have premium players as my F8/M7 and maybe B8/M8 position.

Agreed on all points, seems to be some very 'crazy' trade suggestions floating around such as trading a premium because he has a bye. The whole point of picking premiums are so you don't have to use trades on them bar injury or some extremely terrible form (Bruce/Broughton).

 

[makingmemark]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Has there been a ranking and trading update for this round?

Sorry guys, under the pump with work. Here are the trades:

Warne Dawgs
Andy OTTEN,
Cameron RICHARDSON,

Michael HIBBERD,
Alan DIDAK,

Up and About


LemmingMasterEDT
Patrick RYDER,
Cameron RICHARDSON,

Broc MCCAULEY,
Brent HARVEY,

The Baxters
Andy OTTEN,
Greg BROUGHTON,

Brendon GODDARD,
Michael HIBBERD,

CoachesBox Podcast
David HALE,
Cameron RICHARDSON,

Broc MCCAULEY,
Adam GOODES,

FanFooty EDT
Cameron BRUCE,
Rohan BEWICK,

Troy CHAPLIN,
Jared POLEC,

30SPARTANS
Greg BROUGHTON,
Cameron RICHARDSON,

Jed ADCOCK,
Matthew LOBBE,

The Convicts


vamsee EDT
Andy OTTEN,
Greg BROUGHTON,

Jack GRIMES,
Michael HIBBERD,

Frayed Ends FFC


Calvinator
Zachary SMITH,
Cameron RICHARDSON,

Broc MCCAULEY,
Keiran HARPER,

Dr Dream Team
Cyril RIOLI,

Jack RIEWOLDT,

destROY
Cameron RICHARDSON,

Keiran HARPER,

Banana Bale
Andy OTTEN,
Andrew KRAKOUER,

Jed ADCOCK,
Joel TIPPETT,

 

[Juddy88]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Cheers mate.

No need to apologise though, I just wasn't sure if I had missed it with all the DWD rubbish.

 

[djch00k]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

m0nty can't take a break. His two trades last week would've been hard to enough to swallow scoring-wise, and now he's got to cop Polec being dropped, too.

 

[Blues_FC]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

A lot of coaches traded McCauley in and he's out of the team already. I guess it served the purpose of a quick cash injection, but you'd be hoping that he gets some more games before JB comes back.

 

[Juddy88]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

m0nty can't take a break. His two trades last week would've been hard to enough to swallow scoring-wise, and now he's got to cop Polec being dropped, too.

Trading in Chaplin on the back of 2 games was always going to be painful.

 

[Juddy88]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

A lot of coaches traded McCauley in and he's out of the team already. I guess it served the purpose of a quick cash injection, but you'd be hoping that he gets some more games before JB comes back.

I doubt it, Brisbane's structure and gamestyle doesn't suit 3 ruckman/talls like that. Clark is good up forward so he stays, Luey is hopeless in the fwd line and he is their number 1 ruck, so they had no choice - McCauley had to go. Unless Luey learns to play forward, which seems unlikely, I wouldn't expect to see him back soon, which is a shame as he's been pretty good.

 

[Big Sledge #32]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Some of these trade ideas at times seem a little crazy, I keep wondering if the fact we have 24 trades is that altering our perception of what is okay. It will be interesting in the multi bye rounds later in the season and how we're dealing with injuries and byes.

I still hope to have premium players as my F8/M7 and maybe B8/M8 position.

Some teams are going to have very strong 22's but will fall away when injuries hit.

I have no doubt the overall winner will have this set up!

I definitely agree with all the cash on offer this season you should be aiming to get a well rounded set of 24ish premium/keeper scoring players so you can field a strong 22 on any given week. Whether some of them come from high scoring rookies (ie Heppell as a D8) or from fallen premiums (a Didak type if he can only fire out 80s this year F8/M7) like Tarquin tried to do with Davis last year.

This strategy would also be a possible counteraction of some peoples needs to trade out Geelong players come round 22.

 

[Big Sledge #32]

Re: Famous DT Coaches Thread 2011

Trading in Chaplin on the back of 2 games was always going to be painful.

I think this decision could hurt as much as missing Hodge last year.

Are you planning to hold onto him Monty?