Fan threatened with eviction from MCG for barracking too loud

[The Gong]

What social media has done is give a voice to the far left and far right of society who seem to want to impose their views of said society on everyone else. The majority of us who fall somewhere in the middle are sick of getting preached to and just want to get on with our lives in peace.

Preach, brother!

All the oxygen is sucked up by the far left and far right because it gets headlines. Then anyone who disagrees with them is immediately in the opposite camp because there's no degrees of separation any more. You're just one or the other.

 

[The Gong]

Wow what the hell is this from the guard.

That's what you would call an absolute brain fade.

 

[romeohwho]

I have no doubt that the increased security presence does impact on some peoples enjoyment of the game, whether they are the one's displaying the boorish behaviour or those that just support their teams.

There are a group of workers who are best trained to understand the nuances of crowd behaviour at the football and what is currently acceptable behaviour in society. The question should be why are these people not being employed to attend what is probably Melbournes biggest customs. The rest is noise IMO.

Can’t see how one would have taken their eye’s off the gripping contest between Doggies and Carlton the other night to worry about a few guys walking around. Just watch the footy. Ofcourse people should be able to yell as loudly as they like, and surely they can pull it back a little from 3 walks per quarter to the 1 which is the norm. Pretty easy to sort out the security guys I’d have thought although it’s tricky too. The people who are getting thrown out when they only said something like ‘bald headed flog’- well, who knows but my experience has been it’s pretty unlikely that’s the only thing they said that day. And some people will be happy for increased security given the behaviour of some fans.
The point is the media should be constructive rather than fanning the flames of hysteria - every SEN commentor ramping it up ( presumably so they can fill the three hours they have) hasn’t been helpful or measured for mine.
Gillon has been MIA and he needs to really step up, too late but better than never. Has been the invisible man this year through a variety of difficult issues and he need to be leading visibly.

 

[Aramis]

Lol the prick is keeping everyone waiting. Hand in your resignation you f***ing clown.

 

[skipper kelly]

Can’t see how one would have taken their eye’s off the gripping contest between Doggies and Carlton the other night to worry about a few guys walking around. Just watch the footy. Ofcourse people should be able to yell as loudly as they like, and surely they can pull it back a little from 3 walks per quarter to the 1 which is the norm. Pretty easy to sort out the security guys I’d have thought although it’s tricky too. The people who are getting thrown out when they only said something like ‘bald headed flog’- well, who knows but my experience has been it’s pretty unlikely that’s the only thing they said that day. And some people will be happy for increased security given the behaviour of some fans.

I am 100% against boorish behaviour at the footy.

My only other opinion/question is who are the people best placed to police this boorish behaviour.

 

[Aramis]

God damn.... he is a lying rat. Sigh.

 

[romeohwho]

I am 100% against boorish behaviour at the footy.

My only other opinion/question is who are the people best placed to police this boorish behaviour.

Ofcourse but there is more to it than that as far as I can see.

 

[Sentinel]

Lol the prick is keeping everyone waiting. Hand in your resignation you f***ing clown.

Probably delayed due to a last minute change of the backdrop to remove the BetEasy sponsor logos

 

[Aramis]

Probably delayed due to a last minute change of the backdrop to remove the BetEasy sponsor logos

Absolute farce, are you listening to this sh*t?

Classic "sorry that you feel bad" not "sorry"

 

[Ron The Bear]

Huge bags under Gil's eyes. No sleep.

 

[Sentinel]

Absolute farce, are you listening to this sh*t?

Classic "sorry that you feel bad" not "sorry"

As expected. Shifting the blame, no ones fault.

 

[halalsnackpack]

Weak as piss Gilligan

 

[skipper kelly]

Ofcourse but there is more to it than that as far as I can see.

Cheers. I'm only looking at it from the angle of who is best placed to police crowd behaviour.

 

[roacheee]

after the goodes documentary, afl house would've sought legal advice before issuing the apology.

i have no doubt that the afl were also told that the umpires probably have a case under workplace health & safety regs. That's why the cheer squads, being official entities and affiliated with the clubs, were targeted first.

the afl heirarchy isn't honest enough to admit it, but i am 100% certain.

 

[romeohwho]

Cheers. I'm only looking at it from the angle of who is best placed to police crowd behaviour.

Yep fair enough.

 

[Aramis]

Its all the venues fault guys, nothing to see here.

We're all muppets and clearly theres been no increase in policing.

We're all wrong guys.

 

[Mr Magic]

As someone who's worked in security back in the day, I can tell you neither the security company nor the venue care about the standard of work. The venue only has security because they're legally liable to have it, and have to have a certain amount of guards in relation to the venue. As long as that quota is met and their arses are covered that's all that matters to them. The security companies also know this and only worry about covering their own arse by honouring the contract and providing the required amount of guards.

Call it fraud or whatever you want but there's corruption, whether big or small in every industry, even the coppers. So to expect some american FBI style professional security guards who only eject someone who society completely agrees should be ejected without any conjecture is completely illogical.

Alot of people also have the wrong perception of what a guard can and can't legally do. Guards have every right to question and eject someone within the venues rules, but they actually don't have much authority and are told to observe and report rather than get involved in most situations. People think guards are either over authoritative ego maniacs or the opposite, have no idea and don't do anything when needed. When the reality is they're only there to fill a quota, observe and report. The security guard running into the ground wasn't an example of having no idea, nor trying to impose rules. He was just a standard security guard who was only there to make a bit of coin who was faced with a situation normally seen in his job where he made a split second judgement to break up a scuffle. The comments regarding his culture are irrelevant and plain ignorant.

Actually you are wrong IMO, in that a standard security guard there to make coin instead of performing a duty is arguably a form of fraud. Its doing work for pay without doing the work effectively when they should have been trained to perform certain duties to a standard.

Also facing a spilt decision to break up a scuffle is simply not good enough and would have gone against any training he had.

What you are basically saying is the officer and company could be liable for failure to provide an adequate service.

The culture is totally relevant. The fact he only saw too players as a scuffle, as you suggest, rather than a scenario outside his jurisdiction is part of why he culturally out of sync with what he was required to do especially regarding what is acceptable in the outer in terms of relevant issues in the outer he or she would need to address as appropriate.

Do you think the security company honoured the contract and do you not see a breach of contract??? Are you saying those that framed the contract did not know what they were doing????

If he or she had any training they would know they have no powers of arrest and can only perform a citizens arrest if warranted like any other citizen and likewise citizens would have the same power as written in a booklet they probably were carrying around at the time if trained appropriately. What may be relevant here is if they are a citizen, resident etc...

I would be stunned if the state regulator did not call into question the training provided to the officer apart from the behaviour of the security company in terms of labels, from the vision, as well as the officers behaviour if they knew what they were doing!!

The fact that a security company may have provided ill-equipped officers to provide a service does not abstain themselves from their responsibility to provide a level of service regardless of their chosen business model!!

The fact the service appears to have crossed the line suggests the service provider was not fully aware of their responsibilities because if they were they would have raised issues before providing any specific service with the venue operator before-hand in terms of non-compliance issues with their state regulator and other laws of the state and federally for that matter.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Sticking to the "safety" line. Gil you are lying again.

Drop the corporate facade and speak to your patrons.

 

[Shane_Mag]

Someone get a Venues counter up.

 

[Aramis]

"makesure that fans can go express themselves, the right way"

direct quote.... I mean thats it, in a nutshell. Has the worst f***ing poker face and couldn't lie to a child.

 

[blackcat]

Lol the prick is keeping everyone waiting. Hand in your resignation you f***ing clown.

3million per when bonuses into account, tough to resign

 

[Aramis]

"Jeff said he "regrets it""

nek minnit...

Has he retracted it?

"I cant speak for jeff"

 

[Sentinel]

"Jeff Kennett regrets his words"

Next minute...

"I can't speak for Jeff"

 

[Aramis]

Hows the deflection on this guy.... his new nickname is the mirror ball.

 

[Aramis]

"RATINGS ARE UP" "BIGGEST CROWDS EVER" "FOOTYS IN GREAT SHAPE"

I mean give me a f***ing break. He is such a smug prick.