Roast Fans getting Warnings and Booted for Being too Loud

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He will need a good spin to tell us nothing has happened and that meeting was about nothing. I suspect we are seeing the very start of the Gil death spin. Awesome if that is so because outside of some ignorant pc agenda they dont seem to have a lot of direction.
In my opinion, all sides of this overblown mosquito are PC groups telling people what they can and can't say or think.
Look at the Ablett booing, which I view as being the forerunner of this fiasco.

PC group 1 boos Ablett because he liked a facebook post.
PC group 2 says booing is completely inappropriate.
PC group 3 boos Ablett because they say it's inappropriate to say that booing is inappropriate.
It's ridiculous that one side of the whole argument over political correctness are denouncing the other side as being politically correct, when their view is simply a different version of what is politically correct.
 

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Is the whole student visa/cheap wages thing even a thing anymore? I thought that was closed down after the 7/11 rip offs?
Doesn't mean employers feel any need to pay above a minimum wage. Now an even better deal for them I'd assume with the scrapping of penalty rates.
 

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I'm not sure it has anything to do with race but it sure has a lot to do with football knowledge on and off field. When you see something like that, then you can only assume there is limited training offered regards being a security person at the footy.
The Tasmania incident indicates no training was given.

It’s really quite startling.
 

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Just shows they only care about $$$$$ and Foreign Labour is the Cheapest
Dave they’d be paid on the correct pay wage scale. Or that would be in the contract of the company and ground / AFL.

They’d have to have working visas etc. so it’s not about foreign labour. More about getting basic workers and give them what appears minimal training and then collect the contract from management.
 

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In my opinion, all sides of this overblown mosquito are PC groups telling people what they can and can't say or think.
Look at the Ablett booing, which I view as being the forerunner of this fiasco.

PC group 1 boos Ablett because he liked a facebook post.
PC group 2 says booing is completely inappropriate.
PC group 3 boos Ablett because they say it's inappropriate to say that booing is inappropriate.
It's ridiculous that one side of the whole argument over political correctness are denouncing the other side as being politically correct, when their view is simply a different version of what is politically correct.
Yeah fair point. My issue at core is with the way the AFL is going about delivering their agenda, not so much the agenda.
 

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Gill the dill has to go. Such a piss weak fake apology he dished out today. Sorry you’re upset, but...

Spare me - that’s the apology you give when you don’t mean it or care and are instead forced.
One of Gil’s weaknesses is he is a very poor speaker and deliverer of a speech.

He is so wooden.

Actually he’s dreadful. It’s not for everyone.
 

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The Tasmania incident indicates no training was given.

It’s really quite startling.
Definitely one of the more extraordinary things you'd ever see at an AFL match! While most people will prefer the idea that the AFL is the villain here, I think this incident helps back up what Gillon McLachlan has said to a fair extent. I think it's reasonable to believe that the AFL hasn't ordered a security crackdown, but poorly trained/overzealous security people have caused most of the problems in recent times. Hopefully, they will be told to tone down their attitude, and let people get back to barracking normally at the football again, and this fuss will soon be forgotten.
 

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Definitely one of the more extraordinary things you'd ever see at an AFL match! While most people will prefer the idea that the AFL is the villain here, I think this incident helps back up what Gillon McLachlan has said to a fair extent. I think it's reasonable to believe that the AFL hasn't ordered a security crackdown, but poorly trained/overzealous security people have caused most of the problems in recent times. Hopefully, they will be told to tone down their attitude, and let people get back to barracking normally at the football again, and this fuss will soon be forgotten.
Nailed it.

The AFL isn’t the devil.
Gil has his moments.
But on a hiding to nothing.

To me his biggest weakness is he’s a very poor speaker hence communicates poorly. But that’s not going to change so he is who he is.
 

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Definitely one of the more extraordinary things you'd ever see at an AFL match! While most people will prefer the idea that the AFL is the villain here, I think this incident helps back up what Gillon McLachlan has said to a fair extent. I think it's reasonable to believe that the AFL hasn't ordered a security crackdown, but poorly trained/overzealous security people have caused most of the problems in recent times. Hopefully, they will be told to tone down their attitude, and let people get back to barracking normally at the football again, and this fuss will soon be forgotten.
Sorry, but where did the directive to clamp down on loudness, language or extra aisle patrols come from?
I notice lately all the press has been about Marvel, but this was already happening at the G.
Does anyone seriously think the contracted security firm decided on its own to change things? To ramp up aisle walks? To eyeball fans?
There is only one way such a change in behaviour of the contractors occurs. From the employer.
If the employer is the stadium, then they see no need to change things, at extra cost, unless the renter of the venue decides they want a change.
All roads lead back to the AFL, and by extension, the head of the AFL.
To think otherwise is to ignore the facts.
 

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Sorry, but where did the directive to clamp down on loudness, language or extra aisle patrols come from?
I notice lately all the press has been about Marvel, but this was already happening at the G.
Does anyone seriously think the contracted security firm decided on its own to change things? To ramp up aisle walks? To eyeball fans?
There is only one way such a change in behaviour of the contractors occurs. From the employer.
If the employer is the stadium, then they see no need to change things, at extra cost, unless the renter of the venue decides they want a change.
All roads lead back to the AFL, and by extension, the head of the AFL.
To think otherwise is to ignore the facts.
I think this story is quite reasonable, though I'm sure many will keep going with the anti-AFL attitude: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/06/17/marvel-stadium-initiated-fan-crackdown-not-the-afl-mcclure/

Marvel Stadium management are responsible for the sudden crackdown on crowd behaviour and not the AFL, according to SEN Time On host Sam McClure.
An increased security presence over the weekend has heightened tensions amongst outraged fans, with Behavioural Awareness Officers spotted at Marvel Stadium on Friday and Saturday night.
AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan has denied claims the league is responsible for the intensified security visibility at the AFL-owned venue, after Marvel Stadium CEO Michael Green took ownership of the matter on AFL Nation yesterday.

“Marvel Stadium, as of this morning, has agreed to tone down its security presence after a frustrated CEO Gillon McLachlan essentially summoned Michael Green, the CEO of Marvel Stadium, to his office this morning,” McClure told SEN’s Time On.
“The AFL has consistently told us that at no stage did it initiate a crackdown on fan behaviour. A lot of us haven’t believed the AFL, but what we can tell you now is that the league is telling the truth.
“The crackdown came from Marvel Stadium and the MCG, so essentially Melbourne’s two main football stadiums.
“The MCG also increased their security protocols; not increased their raw numbers. The MCG also changed their protocols, but no one has complained about that, because they’ve got the balance right.”


The AFL is the tallest of tall poppies, and there will always be people willing to trying and cut them down. I'm not exactly a fan of the head of the AFL (I don't dislike him either), and of course I know they will try and "spin things" when they think it's necessary, but I just don't always believe that they are to be blamed for anything the fans are unhappy about!
 

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