Fans that shame us part II

[Bad Horse]

I was saying "Stop the mosquitoes".

Forgot the repellent.

I think they were more than repellent enough all on their own.

 

[Vicky Park]

Appalling and moronic.

 

[bucksisbest]

While it has no place at football games and IMO is a really under thought and toxic message, you do worry if this becomes a discussion piece in the media it can to a degree legitimise these people and their use of this forum.

 

[Old Spice]

What is written under the arrows?

It's the United Patriots Front. They're Nazi scumbags, vermin trying to piggyback off our club.

Absolute low-life.

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

Don't know why this is such a shock. AFL brought politics into the game ages ago.

Don't agree with their statement, but the outrage is ridiculous.

The outrage is absolutely justified because more often than not, the ideals of such knuckle draggers are based on bullshit.
Saw a Facebook post that said that the building of mosques was based on census statistics so everyone against should tick Christian, even if they aren't. It will stop the mosques. Yep, someone typed that with their knuckles.

 

[Seedsfan]

Who cares people are over sensitive these days. Personally as a person who is not religious I would never fly that banner but a cornerstone of our society is freedom of speech. Just as followers of any religion should be free to spread the word of their religion people who oppose it should have the freedom to voice their opinion.

 

[Maggie5]

Who cares people are over sensitive these days. Personally as a person who is not religious I would never fly that banner but a cornerstone of our society is freedom of speech. Just as followers of any religion should be free to spread the word of their religion people who oppose it should have the freedom to voice their opinion.

I care.
I go to the footy to watch my team play not for political extremists to bring in political banners.

 

[Gambit78]

Who cares people are over sensitive these days. Personally as a person who is not religious I would never fly that banner but a cornerstone of our society is freedom of speech. Just as followers of any religion should be free to spread the word of their religion people who oppose it should have the freedom to voice their opinion.

I care too. You're not free to discriminate.

 

[Seedsfan]

I care.
I go to the footy to watch my team play not for political extremists to bring in political banners.

I agree that it is not the best place to voice your opinion. But it isn't a massive scandal like people made out

 

[PicaBoo]

Who cares people are over sensitive these days. Personally as a person who is not religious I would never fly that banner but a cornerstone of our society is freedom of speech. Just as followers of any religion should be free to spread the word of their religion people who oppose it should have the freedom to voice their opinion.

I am not religious, freedom of speech all for it but don't drag OUR club into ANY political discussion. Can we focus on footy for a change. Please?

 

[davywap]

And this is now going around on twitter .
Guess what tomorrow's headlines will be .
Our win or....

FFS, ****ing hate this shit

 

[Seedsfan]

I care too. You're not free to discriminate.

Everyone is free to voice their opinion. If their opinion is that we shouldn't build mosque people need to accept that is their opinion. People can't preach tolerance while trying to alienate and demonise those who have a different view. As I said I don't agree with what was on the banner but their opinion is as valid as anyone else's

 

[100volt1]

Don't you just love when w**kers bring politics into a sport?

I hope they come across this and read the following:

WE DON'T WANT YOU AT OUR CLUB.

 

[Seedsfan]

I am not religious, freedom of speech all for it but don't drag OUR club into ANY political discussion. Can we focus on footy for a change. Please?

I do agree with that and seeings they chose to align themselves with the club the club should take action if they contradict the clubs beliefs

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Everyone is free to voice their opinion. If their opinion is that we shouldn't build mosque people need to accept that is their opinion. People can't preach tolerance while trying to alienate and demonise those who have a different view. As I said I don't agree with what was on the banner but their opinion is as valid as anyone else's

Actually you're not.
There are very clear boundaries for what you are not allowed to say - because as a society we are mature enough to realise that some "opinions" are just full of shit and have no purpose other than to cause trouble.
It is why the banner was removed immediately and the guys were kicked out by security.

You cannot use "Freedom of Speech" as an excuse for racist, prejudiced bullshit.

 

[PicaBoo]

Club has already put a statement out, let's hope that douses the fire. Some websites will be showing it. If the drug story was due to an anti Collingwood agenda, expect this to be milked
And unlike the drug story, we are on our own here...

 

[si tacuisses]

There are Muslim Pies supporters. I want them to be as welcome at our games as the next person. This shit does not fly. We shouldn't allow it for a second.

The people saying "stop the Mosques" were the same ****sticks who claimed to be worried about an "Asian immigrant crime wave" a decade or two ago. They were wrong then, and they're wrong now. And they were racist ****heads then, and they're still ****heads now.

 

[PicaBoo]

Eddie wants life ban for people behind anti-Muslim banner


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...behind-antimuslim-banner-20160401-gnwlc2.html

 

[Seedsfan]

Actually you're not.
There are very clear boundaries for what you are not allowed to say - because as a society we are mature enough to realise that some "opinions" are just full of shit and have no purpose other than to cause trouble.
It is why the banner was removed immediately and the guys were kicked out by security.

You cannot use "Freedom of Speech" as an excuse for racist, prejudiced bullshit.

Anyone's view is as valid as the next person. Also no matter what that banner said the security would have removed it as you are not allowed to fly a banner that covers advertising space or one that has any political message

 

[Seedsfan]

There are Muslim Pies supporters. I want them to be as welcome at our games as the next person. This shit does not fly. We shouldn't allow it for a second.

The people saying "stop the Mosques" were the same ****sticks who claimed to be worried about an "Asian immigrant crime wave" a decade or two ago. They were wrong then, and they're wrong now. And they were racist ****heads then, and they're still ****heads now.

Fighting stereotypes with stereotypes is never going to work people need to look at everyone as an individual.

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Anyone's view is as valid as the next person. Also no matter what that banner said the security would have removed it as you are not allowed to fly a banner that covers advertising space or one that has any political message

No - everyone's view is not as valid as the next person. If we weren't able to distinguish between right and wrong, or to improve ourselves as a society, then we would be no better than animals and still living in caves.

 

[TradeDraft]

While it has no place at football games and IMO is a really under thought and toxic message, you do worry if this becomes a discussion piece in the media it can to a degree legitimise these people and their use of this forum.

They know using Collingwood will get you noticed by everyone

 

[TradeDraft]

I agree that it is not the best place to voice your opinion. But it isn't a massive scandal like people made out

Media has not started yet with it

 

[si tacuisses]

Anyone's view is as valid as the next person. Also no matter what that banner said the security would have removed it as you are not allowed to fly a banner that covers advertising space or one that has any political message

If your view is "vaccinations cause autism" or "the Earth is flat", then no, your view is not equally valid.

Hatred against a whole segment of society is not equal to other opinions. It is idiotic, it is abusive, and we are free it such.

 

[Seedsfan]

No - everyone's view is not as valid as the next person. If we weren't able to distinguish between right and wrong, or to improve ourselves as a society, then we would be no better than animals and still living in caves.

I do get your point but it doesn't mean I agree with it 100%. There is always going to be a minority that doesn't want stuff like mosque built that's fine people need to accept that. There will always two ends of the spectrum the people in the middle need to decide what is best for the society as a whole. Anyone I am out of this thread